Edward Stein Posted December 31, 2021 Share #1 Posted December 31, 2021 I would like to do the rigging for the capstan on the Wappen von Hamburg. I cannot find any pictures that shows it. Any ideas would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Dziadeczek Posted December 31, 2021 Solution Share #2 Posted December 31, 2021 Why did you enclose plans for the USS Constitution? This link Ship Model Laboratory - Centre for Maritime Archaeology and Conservation - Texas A&M University (tamu.edu) explain the whole process well, and even though it doesn't apply to the Wappen von Hamburg, but the principle is the same. mtaylor and Edward Stein 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ah100m Posted December 31, 2021 Share #3 Posted December 31, 2021 USS Constitution with two gun decks? mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Stein Posted December 31, 2021 Author Share #4 Posted December 31, 2021 I'm sorry about that. The Wappen is hanging over the Constitution. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted December 31, 2021 Share #5 Posted December 31, 2021 Happy New Year Edward, Can you tell us which Wappen von Hamburg is this supposed to be as there were four from the 17th and 18th centuries, 1669, 1686, 1722, and 1740? The information on the site given at Texas A&M is probably inappropriate depending on which one you are building as messengers and nippers were not used until about 1740. (Harland Capstans and Windlasses p.66 and Lavery Arming and Fitting English Ships of War p. 47) Cheers Allan mtaylor and Mark P 2 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Stein Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share #6 Posted January 1, 2022 21 hours ago, allanyed said: Happy New Year Edward, Can you tell us which Wappen von Hamburg is this supposed to be as there were four from the 17th and 18th centuries, 1669, 1686, 1722, and 1740? The information on the site given at Texas A&M is probably inappropriate depending on which one you are building as messengers and nippers were not used until about 1740. (Harland Capstans and Windlasses p.66 and Lavery Arming and Fitting English Ships of War p. 47) Cheers Allan It's Corel's Wappen von Hamburg I 1667. mtaylor and allanyed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted January 2, 2022 Share #7 Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) Edward There were changes to the capstans themselves at the time of your ship. I have no contemporary information on German ships, but about 1670 the forward capstans on British two deckers (from Deane's Doctrine 1670) had a single head capstan on the lower gun deck aft of the main mast and a double capstan near midships with one on the lower gun deck without a trundle head for bars and one on the upper gun deck that did have a drum head and openings for bars, quite different than what the kit drawing shows. I am not sure if a viol line (something of a predecessor to the messenger) was used at that time or if ships of your size had the hawser go directly around the lower deck capstan. Hopefully some members here have contemporary information on the proper rigging of the lines themselves. Allan Edited January 2, 2022 by allanyed mtaylor 1 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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