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All looking very neat Jon.

 

On 8/1/2024 at 7:26 PM, Jond said:

It is all amusing as the real decks of fishing schooners were really a mess

Yes it is a pity that most of us are unwilling to lower our standards to match reality.

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

Other Topics

Nautical Adventures

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846

 

 

Posted (edited)

Thank you Rick and Keith for you comments.   

 

I just had a set back as I was reminded that haste may cause waste.   I had hurried up to get to a point to move the model to the garage while summer quests were here so I could continue and install the decking .  In that rush I made a big oops.  I had mis located both masts.  I am part way through the fix and I must say it is an ouch.    I will post in a few days when I figure where I went wrong.    My not having drawings did not help but I do have enough pictures , so it was me in a hurray  

 

cheers

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Posted (edited)

10   oops rework the deck based on review of photos

 

I mentioned above a dumb move / oops.  I was in a hurry and somehow laid out both masts incorrectly.  Based on that layout, I shaped the rails and included the pin rails.   I took the model to the garage, so I could peck away each day a bit while summer guests made working in the shop not convenient. I posted the installed decking.    I should have just waited.

 

Here is the sequence…..

 

01   EH-10-01EEE_2218.jpg.73166ca91559593e2a370f0f67a7cf41.jpgreturning to the shop, I proceeded to carry on and installed all the chain plates.   Dumb!

 

Back at my shop computer, which coincidentally I replaced my long-gone computer at this same time.  We all know that resetting a new computer means another week that I should have waited.    I finally resumed studying all the available images to figure out how the deck was laid out.  As I mentioned earlier through the net I found the several collections in both Gloucester and Boston Library collections.  I “borrowed thumbnails” and blew them up, scaled spars etc.  I had previously shared the sail plan that I did in cad months ago based on a broadside racing image.  Why did I not use that drawing when I located the Mast?   Who knows

 

02-05 In these photos one can see the relocated masts and re-laid decking.    The foremast wrong hole is amazingly close enough to the round fish loading hatch with which I will plug the hole. The main mast hole was plugged and covered in new decking.  The pin rails and chain plates were all relocated and are back together.  At some point I need to do more remedial work, especially the outer hull where the chain plates were removed.  The pin rails will be mostly covered with coiled lines so they will work out.

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Going forward

 

Photos 6-8 To plan the deck work, here are two cropped images that come from different internet images and sites.   When blown up, they give a reasonable sense of what was on deck and where.  I also have one of our Historical Society photos of the sister schooner Louise Howard.  The similarities carry through after scaling and measuring the sail plan. So they both confirmed the error made and after the fix I am ready to move forward.  

 

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cheers

 

 

 

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  • 3 months later...
Posted (edited)

11 This update covers some down time as I travelled North through the Northwest passage in August and a few extra activities in the model shop this fall. Before setting EH aside for a bit of a rest last August , I had fun on the shop toys making some of the deck furnishings and spars.  

  • 01-04. these photos capture making the masts and setting them up for the right rake

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  • 05-9 capture the annual visit of my daughter and some of her friends. She loves to make sails.  So since I am out of prepared silk span she prepared four large sheets for me, sure enough to make the sails this winter. I also have found a better image to use for the sail planning.

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  • 10 Finally we see EH sitting on the shelf as the rebuild of the schooner Zebedee Cliff took over the shop
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  • 11 months later...
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12. we are back to work

 

This update is to celebrate the resumption of my build of this fun schooner.  During the past year I diverted into the arctic where half of my current and near future builds are planned.  I hope to continue in parallel with arctic stories and vessels and the Boothbay region shipyards, stories and vessels.   The real live full-size work in our town this year is the rebuild of the vessel Niagara from Erie Pennsylvania. I have been down several rabbit holes over the years following the Ernestina Morrissey and Bowdoin rebuilds but have chosen not to focus on this area.  I will visit a few times and what I learn I will share on whomever has an open log. She is quite the popular vessel, so I am sure I will find one.

 

The first event that got Elizabeth Howard off the shelf was our annual model show in Bath, Maine. This year we moved to the shed that houses Maine First ship, the 1607 Pinnace Virginia.  I stood up the masts and added a few shrouds just to have some visible change. The intent is to include models that are being built as a part of the show.  In the view below she is among several other builds and anxious to return to the shop and not to the shelf.  

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  • 1 here she is at the show in Bath me.  

In my posting of last year, I showed the photos that I am using to figure out how best to show the deck.  My current activities include adjusting things to better fit the dimensions that I have extracted from the photos.  

  • EH-12IMG_2259.jpeg.86638b24df43ac6128b3d27647e87849.jpeg2 here is image showing a printout of the fore deck photo with hand measurements. It’s very low tech as the view shows the dimensions on the photo compared to the 11 inches bow to foremast.  I also realized that the foremast head stay is not going to the samson post, so I needed to move that aft and then, like on other schooners, rig an iron loop from deck structure around the bowsprit to take the load of the lower foremast stay.  I also have rebuilt the bowsprit so it can now come aft to the samson post near the windless. 


Next up is the windless and its machinery. Probably 10 years ago I bought a “fisherman windless kit “ . It has been sitting in a box all these years so now is the time to use it.   

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  • 3-5  here we see first setting the main mast and rigging the shrouds.  One can also note my arctic build Gjoa is at the far end of the worktable, so I can divide my time.  The other two deck overviews show where we are starting, with the kit windless in place……. something is just not right

I find it is missing a key ingredient, a direct drive wheel to connect to the donkey engine that surely would have been there.   Looking even more closely to the photo above I see what I wanted to see; a second set of bitts just forward of the engine box, very fuzzy but clearly with a flywheel.   So, borrowing experience from my schooner Bluenose build, I went ahead and had some fun. 

 

Here is my low-tech approach to adding a drive gear to the barrel. These 4 images show:

  • EH-12IMG_2245.thumb.jpeg.21aa82c8ad5059c176f621ef1160bc78.jpegFirst attempt to simply cut the “barrel and drill a hole to receive an extended shaft to hold the gear. This was an oops
  • EH-12IMG_2257.thumb.jpeg.31085c826746dae79f2dfde2c7dd6602.jpegSecond attempt when I realized I needed to shrink down the spool to make room for the gear drive.
  • EH-12IMG_2248.thumb.jpeg.512e919f2bc301c3c78bbfaf37cf744c.jpegDrilling the winch to receive the other end of the shaft 
  • EH-12IMG_2246.thumb.jpeg.850a376c53007ad7f08d9d529e1a639e.jpegUsing the drill press to carve two new winches 

 

  • EH-12IMG_2258.jpeg.324af348981f2ca56db98f1279113a55.jpegAnd here is the partial reassembly.

I will need to add some chain and the breaks for the anchor windless.  One of the details I like in this option is the second windless is obviously a higher speed than the big windless barrel and more reasonable for raising sails.


All for now  I am just happy to have at least started again.
 

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