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9 hours ago, ClipperFan said:

FYI: do yourself a favor, if you don't already have Richard McKay's book in your library, get the earlier version.

Thanks Rich, I don't have a copy but will definitely look for a copy.  I hope that all others interested in finding a copy don't drive the price up :)  I will be very interested to learn how close your collaborated plans/sketches are to his original plans.

 

cheers

 

Pat

Edited by BANYAN

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

Posted
5 hours ago, Rick310 said:

Nice job on the cathead Rob!!

Rick

Thank Rick.   It needed to look warn as naturally expected.  
 

Rob

Current build:

Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196

 

 

Finished build:

Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/#

 

Current build(On hold):

Build log: 1/96  Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/

 

Completed build:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/

The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."

Posted
4 hours ago, BANYAN said:

Nice job on that cathead, especially at that scale Rob.

 

cheers

 

Pat

Thanks Pat. I really wanted them to be fully functionally correct.  Each aspect of the model is a small project in of itself.  
 

Rob

Current build:

Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196

 

 

Finished build:

Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/#

 

Current build(On hold):

Build log: 1/96  Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/

 

Completed build:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/

The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."

Posted
5 hours ago, rwiederrich said:

Thanks Pat. I really wanted them to be fully functionally correct.  Each aspect of the model is a small project in of itself.  
 

Rob

Unlike what I call mantlepiece models which may look nice but don't make sense, Rob's replicas authentically represent the workings of a real ship. 

Posted
10 hours ago, BANYAN said:

Thanks Rich, I don't have a copy but will definitely look for a copy.  I hope that all others interested in finding a copy don't drive the price up :)  I will be very interested to learn how close your collaborated plans/sketches are to his original plans.

 

cheers

 

Pat

@BANYAN Abes Books has nice original 1928, 2nd issue copies listing for $20.00 + postage. 1969 and 1988 are monotone reprints, and usually list for a similar price. Check details to make sure you get an original issue. This lovely painting is clipper Lightning by Anton Otto Fischer. There are 10 full color works and dozens of monotone illustrations.

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Posted
1 hour ago, ClipperFan said:

Unlike what I call mantlepiece models which may look nice but don't make sense, Rob's replicas authentically represent the workings of a real ship. 

Thanks Rich.  Yes it's true.....most onlookers are truly unaware of the actual functionality of many aspects and components of a large sea going clipper ship. Or how many builders of these wonderful ships, actually are interested, or have the desire to fully compliment their models with accurate and complete components?  EDT comes to mind, of one who is an extreme accuracy modeler.  But he also built his model in a scale able to accommodate such precise detailing.  Us modelers down here in the smaller scales, have to modify, simulate or just completely illuminate some details....because the fabrication to do so...is just too microscopic for even the most discriminating critic.

If a magnifying glass is required to properly inspect your models details.....then, you've become a magician.

 

Rob (Just doing the best that I can)

Current build:

Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196

 

 

Finished build:

Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/#

 

Current build(On hold):

Build log: 1/96  Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/

 

Completed build:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/

The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."

Posted

  I have Donald McKay's book - and in the back is a table with McKay ships of all types built.  His clippers of the 1850s (considered the 'Golden Age' of the clipper) with end-of life data had an average service of about 11 years (a group of 19 ships): with 7 burned by fire - crew presumably rescued 37%;  2 wrecked with crew or partial crew rescued 10%;  5 aground or abandoned - crew OK 26.5%;  and 5 Lost with all hands 26.5% !!

  So if a man served for over 10 years on a clipper then, he'd have a 26% chance of being lost at sea, a 10% chance of surviving a wreck, and nearly a 2/3rds chance of seeing a ship aground, abandoned or burned by fire (but living to tell the tale).  This was a risky life to be sure !

Completed builds:  Khufu Solar Barge - 1:72 Woody Joe

Current project(s): Gorch Fock restoration 1:100, Billing Wasa (bust) - 1:100 Billings, Great Harry (bust) 1:88 ex. Sergal 1:65

 

 

 

Posted
5 hours ago, Snug Harbor Johnny said:

  I have Donald McKay's book - and in the back is a table with McKay ships of all types built.  His clippers of the 1850s (considered the 'Golden Age' of the clipper) with end-of life data had an average service of about 11 years (a group of 19 ships): with 7 burned by fire - crew presumably rescued 37%;  2 wrecked with crew or partial crew rescued 10%;  5 aground or abandoned - crew OK 26.5%;  and 5 Lost with all hands 26.5% !!

  So if a man served for over 10 years on a clipper then, he'd have a 26% chance of being lost at sea, a 10% chance of surviving a wreck, and nearly a 2/3rds chance of seeing a ship aground, abandoned or burned by fire (but living to tell the tale).  This was a risky life to be sure !

@Snug Harbor Johnny that's some amazing statistics for sure. Thanks for doing those calculations.

Posted

April 1855, Monthly Nautical Magazine Quarterly Review Stag-Hound article. This article, written 5 years after her launch confirms Hall's notes regarding the 1 & 1/4" per foot rake of her masts. It still has the incorrect 4 & 1/2" per foot bowsprit steeve. Fortunately, Cornelius McKay's letter and drawing shows a less dramatic 4.2" steeve per foot. Valuable documents such as these aid in confirming accuracy.

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Posted
29 minutes ago, ClipperFan said:

@Snug Harbor Johnny that's some amazing statistics for sure. Thanks for doing those calculations.

I agree…… great job Johnny. 
 

Rob

Current build:

Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196

 

 

Finished build:

Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/#

 

Current build(On hold):

Build log: 1/96  Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/

 

Completed build:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/

The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."

Posted

Worked on the anchor for the cathead. I decided against the wood stock, based upon Buttersworth’s painting, plus the fact McKay had an open checkbook to buy the best and most up to date hardware for Staghound.  
 

Rob

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Current build:

Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196

 

 

Finished build:

Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/#

 

Current build(On hold):

Build log: 1/96  Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/

 

Completed build:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/

The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."

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