Louie da fly Posted August 19 #1 Posted August 19 I just came across this paper, about a merchant ship from about 1250 AD. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/mortar-wreck-a-midthirteenthcentury-ship-wrecked-off-studland-bay-dorset-carrying-a-cargo-of-purbeck-stone/3DCA5959D7C694C95EF788903A7BB383 Unfortunately, not much of it has survived, but they found the stempost and a floor timber and some clinker planking - enough to get a fair idea of its construction and its size and shape. On board it had a cargo of 'Purbeck stone' - which was very commonly used in church building at the time. Imagine trying to transport all that stone over the roads of the time - no wonder it was being carried on a ship. A nice bit of evidence of the maritime trade of the period, as well as some pleasing confirmation of several of my decisions in my Winchelsea nef build. Steven Ferrus Manus, Chuck Seiler, PvG Aussie and 7 others 10 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht
Ferrus Manus Posted August 19 #2 Posted August 19 Could this be the first nef wreck ever found? Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote
Louie da fly Posted August 19 Author #3 Posted August 19 The paper also mentions two other wrecks from about the same time - Magor Pills in Wales (archaeological report 1999) and Kalverev Syd (2022).Both are very fragmentary, as far as I've been able to make out, and both are smaller than this one. That being the case, they may be too small to be categorised as nefs - we just don't know,as we don't know for sure this one is a nef. Part of that is in the definition - does it have to have castles to be a nef, or are we just talking about a double-ended clinker-built ship? And of course we don't even know for sure that it's double-ended - though the stempost has been found, the sternpost hasn't. Steven Chuck Seiler, Ferrus Manus, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht
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