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Chuck Seiler

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  1. My research indicates the flag you have is the correct one. Here is somebody's depiction.
  2. Here is what I got from MSW post many years ago. Don't know how accurate for the period, but to paraphrase Bruce, "Close enough for government work".
  3. Great progress!!!! Are those barrels large enough? One major product was wine. IIRC a tun was about 4 foot tall.
  4. Is that the origin of "Doing a half fast job"? 😁 (Think about it.)
  5. Hello Blair. Welcome to Model Ship World. I think you will find the CHAPERONE to be an interesting and challenging build, but not overwhelming. I built the Missouri River steamboat FAR WEST as my first scratch build many years ago. All the joys of model ship building without the pesky rigging. Looking forward to your build log.
  6. We'll build the ships. Let them worry about how they will load their cargo, eh?
  7. My concern would be for the cargo, but I supposed most/all would be packed in barrels.
  8. Steven, I agree with this conclusion. That is what I was trying to indicate in post 136, but it was very wordy and may have missed the point. Long story short: The frames that contained the thru beams were centrally located and provided stability. The cargo area could be accessed via removable deck planks and ran thru-beam frame to thru-beam frame. (In other words the area between thru deck frames formed sort of a compartment). Here is the best picture I could find to illustrate the removable planks. They include fingerholes and don't appear too water tight. Deck winch. Most of the ones I have seen, and the way depicted in Zimmerman, was that the hole/slot went all of the way through the windlass so the windlass bar could be used to stop/hold the windlass in place.
  9. Kingship and Maritime Power in 10th‐Century England, by Matthew Firth and Erin Sebo—has been published in the International Journal of Nautical Archeology. You have to be a member of an institution to access the article and I fear the "San Diego Mental Hospital" doesn't qualify. An article I read that summarizes it states that English naval tradition goes back to before Alfred...there was a battle with the Vikings in 851. Alfred had a couple battles but the article suggests his ships weree not all that great. Comparison of 'burial ships' over the years suggests "Similarities in burial configuration and in ship design across these regions demonstrate ongoing cultural contact, resulting in comparable technological innovations in warship design between England and Scandinavia, and common cultural attitudes to the importance and prestige of sea-power." If you build below average ships and your neighbor, a seafaring group of hardies, builds better ships, you copy those. So, while England may have had its own shipbuilding traditions, I contend they were influenced by the Scandinavians LONG before 1066. I agree, ship design was not the same in 1250 as it was in 950 and a nef is not a knarr, but I suspect there is much carry over.
  10. Normans were Vikings and 13th century English aristocracy were Normans.
  11. I agree. These are similar to the thru beams in cross sections AA and EE of the Zimmerman plans.
  12. The thru beams appear to be notched(?) so that a ledge the depth of the deck plank runs end to end on each side. While the deck planks COULD be secured to the top of the thru beam, they would have to be nailed. Un-nailed planks would easily move. By using the ledged thru beam, the deck planks would snugly fit into place without the need for nails...just a finger hole to lift one up. As for the lower beam? My thought is that it provided more transverse structural stability required for the increased weight of cargo. On the other hand, maybe the first person to make a nef model did it that way and everybody else followed along. ...on the third hand... I want to say that I remember seeing the removable deck planks used with the Viking longships. I can't remember if I saw it in a video of the SEAHORSE replica or HARALD FAIRHAIR. The arrangement was similar and you would just pull up the deck planks to get access to gear stored below.
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