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Hello, I am trying to build the HMS Triton found in the Group projects. The build does not include any of the masting construction and I am wanting to include the masting with bowsprit hoping to find info on how there all built into the hull of the ship before I get too deep into the build so I can add the necessary woodwork needed for their construction into the boat. I'm needing this info because I'm planning to make this a remote-controlled sailboat. I have looked everywhere I can think to look for something that might help me understand how the bowsprit is attached to the hull with no or extremely vague results hoping someone can help. Thank in advance to any able to offer anything to my dilemma.     

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Check out Wolfram Zu Monfeld’s “Historic Ship Models”.  
 

It is an excellent reference book and includes detailed explanations of the internal construction of a wood ship to include mast installation.

 

As far as rigging diagrams go, most Royal Navy vessels were relatively standardized across a type and time period, so you can take the rigging and masting from another frigate, adjust size, and adapt it to the Triton.

 

I bought the 1/96 Shipyard kit of the frigate HMS Mercury, originally intending to use the masting and rigging diagrams for a possible future Triton or Winchelsea build.

 

It’s still on my possible future to do list, once I get caught up with my current projects.

Edited by GrandpaPhil

Building:

1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit)

1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans)

1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)

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If all other avenues fail Masting and Rigging of English Ships of War by James Lees has the ratios. I believe there is somewhere on the forums where someone turned them into an excel sheet to calculate the sizes based on the size of your ship.

 

However, I would recommend taking a close look at the plans from RMG as a starting point. Sometimes the mast and yard dimensions are written onto the plans. Check out the plans for all the other ships of the same class as some plans will have info others will not. You can also take a look at The Steel tables the following link has the 1781 numbers as well as the more detailed 1799 ones.

 

https://www.goldenhind.ru/steel_en/

 

Good luck.

Edited by Thukydides
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The proportions for masting and rigging as mentioned in James Lees book were also discussed in this topic here some time ago:

On that occasion I looked into the spreadsheet 'Masting and rigging' made by Danny Vadas and corrected for some of the mast lengths and diameters. Thanks to ccoyle it was then also updated in the Articles Database.

 

I hope you find what you need.

Best regards,

   Kris

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23 hours ago, Kris Avonts said:

The proportions for masting and rigging as mentioned in James Lees book were also discussed in this topic here some time ago:

On that occasion I looked into the spreadsheet 'Masting and rigging' made by Danny Vadas and corrected for some of the mast lengths and diameters. Thanks to ccoyle it was then also updated in the Articles Database.

 

I hope you find what you need.

Best regards,

   Kris

Thank you very much this is very helpful 

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On 1/1/2025 at 7:46 AM, Thukydides said:

If all other avenues fail Masting and Rigging of English Ships of War by James Lees has the ratios. I believe there is somewhere on the forums where someone turned them into an excel sheet to calculate the sizes based on the size of your ship.

 

However, I would recommend taking a close look at the plans from RMG as a starting point. Sometimes the mast and yard dimensions are written onto the plans. Check out the plans for all the other ships of the same class as some plans will have info others will not. You can also take a look at The Steel tables the following link has the 1781 numbers as well as the more detailed 1799 ones.

 

https://www.goldenhind.ru/steel_en/

 

Good luck.

I  very much appreciate your help 

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