Glenn-UK Posted December 8, 2013 Share #1 Posted December 8, 2013 After much research I have ordered the HMS Victory Caldercraft kit from CMB. I plan to make a start in earnest after the Xmas break and will post regular updates. This will be my second boat build as I've very nearly completed the AL Scottish Maid which was used as model boat build learning exercise which I really enjoyed building. granta 1 Quote Glenn (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffT Posted December 9, 2013 Share #2 Posted December 9, 2013 Good luck with the build glennard. This one will keep you busy for a while. Also, I deleted the duplicate log for you. Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn-UK Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share #3 Posted December 9, 2013 Thanks I was looking to delete the duplicate post JeffT 1 Quote Glenn (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn-UK Posted December 10, 2013 Author Share #4 Posted December 10, 2013 I have now taken delivery of the Caldercraft kit, wow it's a big and heavy box. Will now need some time to read and digest the build information supplied and to check the kit is complete - happy days Jeff-E 1 Quote Glenn (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensign Posted December 13, 2013 Share #5 Posted December 13, 2013 Hi Glennard, I have also very recently acquired the Caldercraft Victory kit. Yes, it is a monster of a kit. I would like to make a suggestion regarding the middle gun deck if I may. This deck is used to add rigidity when assembling the bulkheads to the false keel.The instructions say to plank part of this deck because it is visible, and to do the planking after this stage of assembly. I have chosen to plank the middle gun deck first before assembling anything to the keel it is much more accessible this way. Another reason is that I am planking all the decks using the four step butt planking method as per the real Victory. A good reference for this type of planking is available on this forum titled simply 'Deck Planking' it is by Ulises Victoria from Mexico, another regular contributor to the forum. Regards Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewNaylor Posted December 14, 2013 Share #6 Posted December 14, 2013 HI Glennard Scarborough Yorkshire? I worked as a fabricator for "Pickups" in the mid 80's Looking forward to following your build as " Victory " is a real dream for me Happy building Andy Quote Current Build HM Granado CC Past builds HMS Chatham CC, HM Convulsion CC, Duke William German Kit, Fair American LSS, The Wright Flyer MS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn-UK Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share #7 Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) Yep Scarborough North Yorks. Edited December 14, 2013 by Glennard Davecobb 1 Quote Glenn (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-E Posted December 14, 2013 Share #8 Posted December 14, 2013 Hi Glennard, Well you have made a start nice to see a razor saw cutting timber I will follow your build maddog33 1 Quote Cheers Jeff Current Builds; HMS Supply Completed Builds; AL Swift 1805; Colonial Sloop Norfolk; HMS Victory Bow Section; HM Schooner Pickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipyard sid Posted December 14, 2013 Share #9 Posted December 14, 2013 Greetings gerrard Well you are off and running, so all the parts were present and correct, and all the dowel was straight. Good luck with your build, just enjoy it and I will follow it with interest. I well remember holidaying in Scarborough and also had my 21st birthday in the Lancaster, not that I remember much about it. Don't even think about trying to sail your ship in peasholm park when it's finished. Best wishes DAVID Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-E Posted December 16, 2013 Share #10 Posted December 16, 2013 Hi Glennard, I also tried to use thread as chaulking on my Norfolk build but found it fuzzed and pulled out when I sanded the planks, so I with the HB pencil for the chaulking and I was quite happy with the result . I think you have made a good choice to go with the HB pencil you will be suprised how well it shows when the deck is sanded and varnished Quote Cheers Jeff Current Builds; HMS Supply Completed Builds; AL Swift 1805; Colonial Sloop Norfolk; HMS Victory Bow Section; HM Schooner Pickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipyard sid Posted December 18, 2013 Share #11 Posted December 18, 2013 Hello Glennard I totally agree with Jeff on not using thread as caulking for the same reasons he gives. In my opinion It can also look to prominent or in your face if you understand. My best choice is no caulking but with planks just touching each other. But good luck with whatever you choose. DAVID NAZGÛL and Glenn-UK 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensign Posted December 19, 2013 Share #12 Posted December 19, 2013 Definitely do the keel tapering before gluing the bulkheads. The keel needs to lay flat on a large work table, this makes it much easier to work with. Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-E Posted December 20, 2013 Share #13 Posted December 20, 2013 Hi Glennard, I agree with Gary definitely do the bearding line before attaching the bulkheads, there should be a drawing of it on the plans. Quote Cheers Jeff Current Builds; HMS Supply Completed Builds; AL Swift 1805; Colonial Sloop Norfolk; HMS Victory Bow Section; HM Schooner Pickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Haw Posted December 24, 2013 Share #14 Posted December 24, 2013 Hi Glennard, Just found your build log. Welcome to the HMS Victory builders here at MSW. Enjoy your build, you're going to be living with it a long time! As you progress you'll there's quite a lot in the manual that doesn't make sense or is just not there at all. Use all the other Caldercraft Victory build logs here and things get a lot clearer. There are so many excellent Victory builders here who are a wealth of information. Best of luck, and Merry Christmas! Patrick Quote Previous build HMS Victory by Patrick Haw - Caldercraft - Scale: 1/72 Current build HMS Enterprise by Patrick Haw - CAF - Scale 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn-UK Posted December 24, 2013 Author Share #15 Posted December 24, 2013 Happy Christmas Patrick. I have just been through the trails and tribulations of your build log, there is so much useful information, many thanks. You have a great looking build and I hope when I make a proper start in the new year I can achieve something similar to you and the rest of the caldercraft victory model boat builders. Today I did spend five minutes filing a spare piece of 5mm board from the beading line to the edge. I will experiment on another piece with a chisel to see what works best before I work on the actual boat. What do you find was the best method? Took delivery of Autonomy Of Nelsons Navy yesterday which had some very interesting information but also raised quiet a few questions down the line. Anyway that all for now. Quote Glenn (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipyard sid Posted December 24, 2013 Share #16 Posted December 24, 2013 Greetings Glennard Merry Xmas , and you have got another Xmas box in the shape of a book. Have you got a David plane ?? If not it will be a good idea to buy one. It will be very handy for doing the type of work you are doing now instead of a chisel, and really handy for work on your masts. Best wishes . DAVID Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-E Posted December 29, 2013 Share #17 Posted December 29, 2013 Hi Glenn, And were off !! Looks like you have made a good start all nice square Quote Cheers Jeff Current Builds; HMS Supply Completed Builds; AL Swift 1805; Colonial Sloop Norfolk; HMS Victory Bow Section; HM Schooner Pickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggebigge Posted December 29, 2013 Share #18 Posted December 29, 2013 Nice and good start.I hope to start my build again soon.Like you say the time is a limit.Enjoy your build and take your time.Looking forward to see more of it. Regards from Per Quote ..HMS victory by muggebigge ( jotika/caldercraft) Motoryacht by muggebigge (freebuild) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipyard sid Posted December 30, 2013 Share #19 Posted December 30, 2013 Greetings Glenn Looks like all is going well. I cut out two slots in the keel and inlaid and trapped alluminuam sleeve in the slots before I started to assemble the bulkheads. I used scrap 5mm ply on both sides of the keel to trap the sleeve, so the keel was solid if you follow. The sleeve I used was from a craft knife from one of those £I shop craft kits. I marked off the position of the sleeves on the keelson, and drilled a small pilot hole for reference. I have just came back from town were I have purchased some toule which is for the hammock netting . You will come across this well on in your build. I was advised on this by grant and Jerry. So if you you want me to send you some PM your address, and I will send more than enough. Keep up the good work and enjoy yourself. DAVID maddog33 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-E Posted January 1, 2014 Share #20 Posted January 1, 2014 Hi Glenn, Sorry to hear about the problem with your bulheads and I am glad to hear that Jokita have been very helpful in assisting you. A good thing that you noticed it now and not much later in the build. Best of luck with it and I hope to see your build up and running again soon Quote Cheers Jeff Current Builds; HMS Supply Completed Builds; AL Swift 1805; Colonial Sloop Norfolk; HMS Victory Bow Section; HM Schooner Pickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipyard sid Posted January 1, 2014 Share #21 Posted January 1, 2014 Hello Glenn Are jotika supplying you with new barrel strips and keel as well as the bulkheads??? As a total restart would be the best idea for you I think. Anyway the best of luck with your restart. Regards DAVID Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipyard sid Posted January 1, 2014 Share #22 Posted January 1, 2014 Hello again Glenn It is impossible to make a complete restart without sheet 7. It contains the four dummy barrel strips and the middle deck, so I am surmising you will not be able to save them. So are they also sending sheet 7 ??? DAVID Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggebigge Posted January 1, 2014 Share #23 Posted January 1, 2014 I feel so sorry for you .I only had one sheet numbered,so i have to look in the manual.Took one sheet and compered to the plans.Good thing they vere different .Good luck next time. Quote ..HMS victory by muggebigge ( jotika/caldercraft) Motoryacht by muggebigge (freebuild) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn-UK Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share #24 Posted January 2, 2014 I have been able to move back in to the shipwright's office tonight. I thought I would make a start on the small boats whilst I wait for the replacement parts. I though this would be easy, but its presents quite a challenge. The bulkhead and deck slots took a lot of filing to ensure they fitted correctly. I did manage to split bulkhead two but it was simple enough to repair. Keel, bulkhead, deck and plank terminations fitted and glued Launch assemble now ready for first planking. Whilst waiting for the launch assembly to dry I started work on the barge. A great tip is to file the slots before removing them from the plywood sheets I found it so much easier. That all for now folks, fingers crossed I get the new parts tomorrow so I can catch up over the weekend. Quote Glenn (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn-UK Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share #25 Posted January 3, 2014 Has anyone got any photos of the launch construction, as part of the Caldercraft HMS Victory. I'm ready to start the first planking and would interested to see what anyone else has done. Quote Glenn (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn-UK Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share #26 Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) I'm still waiting for the replacement parts from JoTika so I continued on with the Launch build. Its quite fiddly work putting on the first layer of planking, without putting to much glue on the bulkheads which have to be removed once the plainnking has been completed. Managed to fit 4 planks in 2 hours, as it took some time to soak, shape, bend and glue the planks. Edited January 3, 2014 by Glennard Quote Glenn (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mort stoll Posted January 4, 2014 Share #27 Posted January 4, 2014 Hi David, This may be a stupid question but how did you realize - re post #35- that the bulkheads were incorrect? Thanks, Mort Quote Current Build - Caldercraft Victory Completed - Artesiana Latina Swift, Harvey, MGS Prince de Neufchatel, Imai USS Susquehanna, Mamoli Constitution, Rattlesnake per Hunt Practium, Caldercraft Snake, Diana, Kammerlander Duke William Waiting to be Launched - Bluejacket Constitution Proud member of The New Jersey Ship Model Society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn-UK Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share #28 Posted January 4, 2014 (edited) Hello Mort I noticed as I was dry fitting the quarter and upper gun decks; the slots did not align with bulkheads 4 to 9. I checked my pencil markings and it seemed I had fitted the bulkheads correctly then I realised that the shapes on the 5mm plysheets which where etched with the numbers 2 and 3 by JoTika were transposed when comparing with the layouts shown in manual. Edited January 4, 2014 by Glennard mort stoll 1 Quote Glenn (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn-UK Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share #29 Posted January 4, 2014 Completed first planking on starboard side of the launch. Pleased with out come; just need to sand and coat with water down wood glue in readiness for second planking. Will first plank port side before I start the second planking. This is proving to be a more interesting side project than I first expected. Quote Glenn (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipyard sid Posted January 4, 2014 Share #30 Posted January 4, 2014 (edited) Hello Glenn Well done with the launch, you are ahead of me now, and it seems you are enjoying yourself. Let's hope those replacements arrive soon, until then enjoy the small boats DAVID Edited January 4, 2014 by Shipyard sid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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