HMS Victory by Glenn-UK - Caldercraft - 1/72

[Glenn-UK]

After much research I have ordered the HMS Victory Caldercraft kit from CMB. I plan to make a start in earnest after the Xmas break and will post regular updates. This will be my second boat build as I've very nearly completed the AL Scottish Maid which was used as model boat build learning exercise which I really enjoyed building.

[JeffT]

Good luck with the build glennard. This one will keep you busy for a while. Also, I deleted the duplicate log for you.

[Glenn-UK]

Thanks I was looking to delete the duplicate post

[Glenn-UK]

I have now taken delivery of the Caldercraft kit, wow it's a big and heavy box.

 

Will now need some time to read and digest the build information supplied and to check the kit is complete - happy days

[Ensign]

Hi Glennard,

I have also very recently acquired the Caldercraft Victory kit. Yes, it is a monster of a kit. I would like to make a suggestion regarding the middle gun deck if I may. This deck is used to add rigidity when assembling the bulkheads to the false keel.The instructions say to plank part of this deck because it is visible, and to do the planking after this stage of assembly. I have chosen to plank the middle gun deck first before assembling anything to the keel it is much more accessible this way. Another reason is that I am planking all the decks using the four step butt planking method as per the real Victory. A good reference for this type of planking is available on this forum titled simply 'Deck Planking' it is by Ulises Victoria from Mexico, another regular contributor to the forum.

 

Regards

Gary

[AndrewNaylor]

HI Glennard

Scarborough Yorkshire? I worked as a fabricator for "Pickups" in the mid 80's

Looking forward to following your build as " Victory " is a real dream for me 

Happy building

Andy

[Glenn-UK]

Yep Scarborough North Yorks.

Edited December 14, 2013 by Glennard

[Jeff-E]

Hi Glennard,

 

Well you have made a start nice to see a razor saw cutting timber    

 

I will follow your build

[Shipyard sid]

Greetings gerrard

Well you are off and running, so all the parts were present and correct, and all the dowel was straight. Good luck with your build, just enjoy it and I will follow it with interest. I well remember holidaying in Scarborough and also had my 21st birthday in the Lancaster, not that I remember much about it. Don't even think about trying to sail your ship in peasholm park when it's finished. Best wishes DAVID

[Jeff-E]

Hi Glennard,

 

I also tried to use thread as chaulking  on my Norfolk build but found it fuzzed and pulled out when I sanded the planks, so I with the HB pencil for the chaulking and I was quite happy with the result . I think you have made a good choice to go with the HB pencil you will  be suprised how well it shows when the deck is sanded and varnished  

[Shipyard sid]

Hello Glennard

I totally agree with Jeff on not using thread as caulking for the same reasons he gives. In my opinion It can also look to prominent or in your face if you understand. My best choice is no caulking but with planks just touching each other. But good luck with whatever you choose. DAVID

[Ensign]

Definitely do the keel tapering before gluing the bulkheads. The keel needs to lay flat on a large work table, this makes it much easier to work with.

 

Gary

[Jeff-E]

Hi Glennard,

 

I agree with Gary definitely do the bearding line before attaching the bulkheads, there should be a drawing of it on the plans.

[Patrick Haw]

Hi Glennard,

 

Just found your build log.  Welcome to the HMS Victory builders here at MSW.  Enjoy your build, you're going to be living with it a long time!  As you progress you'll there's quite a lot in the manual that doesn't make sense or is just not there at all.  Use all the other Caldercraft Victory build logs here and things get a lot clearer.  There are so many excellent Victory builders here who are a wealth of information.

 

Best of luck, and Merry Christmas!

 

Patrick

[Glenn-UK]

Happy Christmas Patrick.

I have just been through the trails and tribulations of your build log, there is so much useful information, many thanks. You have a great looking build and I hope when I make a proper start in the new year I can achieve something similar to you and the rest of the caldercraft victory model boat builders.

Today I did spend five minutes filing a spare piece of 5mm board from the beading line to the edge. I will experiment on another piece with a chisel to see what works best before I work on the actual boat. What do you find was the best method?

 

Took delivery of Autonomy Of Nelsons Navy yesterday which had some very interesting information but also raised quiet a few questions down the line.

 

Anyway that all for now.

[Shipyard sid]

Greetings Glennard

Merry Xmas , and you have got another Xmas box in the shape of a book. Have you got a David plane ?? If not it will be a good idea to buy one. It will be very handy for doing the type of work you are doing now instead of a chisel, and really handy for work on your masts. Best wishes . DAVID

[Jeff-E]

Hi Glenn,

 

And were off !! Looks like you have made a good start all nice square

[muggebigge]

Nice and good start.I hope to start my build again soon.Like you say the time is a limit.Enjoy your build and take your time.Looking forward to see more of it.    Regards from Per

[Shipyard sid]

Greetings Glenn

Looks like all is going well. I cut out two slots in the keel and inlaid and trapped alluminuam sleeve in the slots before I started to assemble the bulkheads. I used scrap 5mm ply on both sides of the keel to trap the sleeve, so the keel was solid if you follow. The sleeve I used was from a craft knife from one of those £I shop craft kits. I marked off the position of the sleeves on the keelson, and drilled a small pilot hole for reference. I have just came back from town were I have purchased some toule which is for the hammock netting . You will come across this well on in your build. I was advised on this by grant and Jerry. So if you you want me to send you some PM your address, and I will send more than enough. Keep up the good work and enjoy yourself. DAVID

[Jeff-E]

Hi Glenn,

 

Sorry to hear about the problem with your bulheads and I am glad to hear that Jokita have been very helpful in assisting you. A good thing that you noticed it now and not much later in the build.

Best of luck with it and I hope to see your build up and running again soon  

[Shipyard sid]

Hello Glenn

Are jotika supplying you with new barrel strips and keel as well as the bulkheads??? As a total restart would be the best idea for you I think. Anyway the best of luck with your restart. Regards DAVID

[Shipyard sid]

Hello again Glenn

It is impossible to make a complete restart without sheet 7. It contains the four dummy barrel strips and the middle deck, so I am surmising you will not be able to save them. So are they also sending sheet 7 ??? DAVID

[muggebigge]

I feel so sorry for you .I only had one sheet numbered,so i have to look in the manual.Took one sheet and compered to the plans.Good thing they vere different .Good luck next time.

[Glenn-UK]

I have been able to move back in to the shipwright's office tonight. I thought I would make a start on the small boats whilst I wait for the replacement parts.

 

I though this would be easy, but its presents quite a challenge. The bulkhead and deck slots took a lot of filing to ensure they fitted correctly. I did manage to split bulkhead two but it was simple enough to repair.

 

Keel, bulkhead, deck and plank terminations fitted and glued

 

 

Launch assemble now ready for first planking.

 

Whilst waiting for the launch assembly to dry I started work on the barge. A great tip is to file the slots before removing them from the plywood sheets I found it so much easier.

 

 

 

That all for now folks, fingers crossed I get the new parts tomorrow so I can catch up over the weekend.

[Glenn-UK]

Has anyone got any photos of the launch construction, as part of the Caldercraft HMS Victory. I'm ready to start the first planking and would interested to see what anyone else has done.

[Glenn-UK]

I'm still waiting for the replacement parts from JoTika so I continued on with the Launch build. Its quite fiddly work putting on the first layer of planking, without putting to much glue on the bulkheads which have to be removed once the plainnking has been completed. Managed to fit 4 planks in 2 hours, as it took some time to soak, shape, bend and glue the planks.

Edited January 3, 2014 by Glennard

[mort stoll]

Hi David,

 

This may be a stupid question but how did you realize - re post #35- that the bulkheads were incorrect?

 

Thanks,

Mort 

[Glenn-UK]

Hello Mort

I noticed as I was dry fitting the quarter and upper gun decks; the slots did not align with bulkheads 4 to 9. I checked my pencil markings and it seemed I had fitted the bulkheads correctly then I realised that the shapes on the 5mm plysheets which where etched with the numbers 2 and 3 by JoTika were transposed when comparing with the layouts shown in manual.

Edited January 4, 2014 by Glennard

[Glenn-UK]

Completed first planking on starboard side of the launch. Pleased with out come; just need to sand and coat with water down wood glue in readiness for second planking. Will first plank port side before I start the second planking.

 

 

 

This is proving to be a more interesting side project than I first expected.

[Shipyard sid]

Hello Glenn

Well done with the launch, you are ahead of me now, and it seems you are enjoying yourself. Let's hope those replacements arrive soon, until then enjoy the small boats DAVID

Edited January 4, 2014 by Shipyard sid