Shura Posted May 4, 2014 Share #1 Posted May 4, 2014 How and where this rope is fixed? I showed this rope red shooters. Thank you. P.S. If it is possible - in pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye2sea Posted May 5, 2014 Share #2 Posted May 5, 2014 That looks like the lacing of the sail to its mast hoops MEDDO 1 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shura Posted May 5, 2014 Author Share #3 Posted May 5, 2014 (edited) Yes, but only 4-5 top hoops are sewn to a sail. The other are connected by a rope. About this rope and question. Edited May 5, 2014 by Shura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyCity Frankie Posted May 11, 2014 Share #4 Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) I agree the line in the photo is lacing. however the Pride of Baltimore one was sunk in 1986 when she was blown down in a squall. It has been speculated that if the sail was bent on with less strong stuff, that it would have blown out before it caused the ship to heal over and take on water and sink. Tall Ship Down is an excellent book that contains a detailed account of the sinking AND is written by a captain of the Pride of Baltimore II. This schooner of all schooners would be very careful about how its sails were laced or seized on. I suspect that the use of lacings and seizings was arrived at after very careful consideration of the risks. I know of two schooner sailing out of New York City that use the crappiest sort of natural fiber recycling twine to lash the sails to the hoops. Good sein twine is available but far too strong. The idea is that the straw colored fuzzy recycling twine, a single strand of which is easily broken by hand, is weak enough to break in a gust of wind strong enough to make the ship heal over dangerously. The lashings are passed many times though and provide enough but not too much strength. Edited May 11, 2014 by JerseyCity Frankie Quote Quote Niagara USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shura Posted May 13, 2014 Author Share #5 Posted May 13, 2014 Thank you for history, but... But how about my question? How connect top and bottom ends rope? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyCity Frankie Posted May 15, 2014 Share #6 Posted May 15, 2014 If I ever get back aboard the Pride of Baltimore II I will specifically check where the lacings are made off. But I suspect they simply terminate with a knot at each end. Probably knotted to eybolts on the jaws. Quote Quote Niagara USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Mostowicz Posted May 15, 2014 Share #7 Posted May 15, 2014 I'm not so sure about eyebolts; I haven't seen them on hoops. I think the lacing is just knotted around itself to tie it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shura Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share #8 Posted May 17, 2014 Maybe like on image? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyCity Frankie Posted June 11, 2014 Share #9 Posted June 11, 2014 Shura, Pride of Baltimore II has a facebook page, you could go there and present your question and even post your photo with the arrows. Someone there would likely know all about it. Quote Quote Niagara USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryTodd Posted August 11, 2014 Share #10 Posted August 11, 2014 I'm not familiar with Pride II's set-up, but, there's several lines that might make-off at the jaws: The lower hoop lacing, needed because of the rake of the mast and because the main lowers as opposed to the fore which brails up. Gaff peak flag halliard, sometimes two, one each side The main's out-haul goes through the boom to a block and tackle which makes off here usually, if there isn't a cleat on the boom for it. Pride 1's main tops'l's tack made off here sometimes. Topping lifts don't normally make off here, but I've seen it done. Quote Jerry Todd Click to go to that build log Constellation ~ RC sloop of war c.1856 in 1:36 scale Macedonian ~ RC British frigate c.1812 in 1:36 scale Pride of Baltimore ~ RC Baltimore Clipper c.1981 in 1:20 scale Gazela Primeiro ~ RC Barkentine c.1979 in 1:36 scale Naval Guns 1850s~1870s ~ 3D Modeling & Printing My Web Site My Thingiverse stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shura Posted August 29, 2014 Author Share #11 Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) Sorry, but nothing new. How the rope is fixed in top and in a bottom? Knot or eyebolt? Or on another? Edited August 29, 2014 by Shura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyCity Frankie Posted March 22, 2015 Share #12 Posted March 22, 2015 This video shot on Pride is very clear and crisp AND it can be paused at intervals where mast details are visible. http://www.pride2.or...te-Hathaway.mp4 Quote Quote Niagara USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shura Posted April 8, 2015 Author Share #13 Posted April 8, 2015 Thank you, Frankie. It's really good clip and something was new for me. But this foremast. My question - it mainmast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyraterigger Posted April 8, 2015 Share #14 Posted April 8, 2015 I think what you are asking about is the difference between how the sail is lashed to the mast hoops above the reef bands, and how the sail is tied with a single line below the reef bands, right? Its a tack lacing below. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shura Posted April 9, 2015 Author Share #15 Posted April 9, 2015 I know answer on my question. Thank you to all who answer and help me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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