Pride of Baltimore - question of a rope

[Shura]

How and where this rope is fixed?

I showed this rope red shooters.

 

Thank you.

 

P.S. If it is possible - in pictures.

[popeye2sea]

That looks like the lacing of the sail to its mast hoops

[Shura]

Yes, but only 4-5 top hoops are sewn to a sail.

The other are connected by a rope. About this rope and question.

Edited May 5, 2014 by Shura

[JerseyCity Frankie]

I agree the line in the photo is lacing. however the Pride of Baltimore one was sunk in 1986 when she was blown down in a squall. It has been speculated that if the sail was bent on with less strong stuff, that it would have blown out before it caused the ship to heal over and take on water and sink. Tall Ship Down is an excellent book that contains a detailed account of the sinking AND is written by a captain of the Pride of Baltimore II. This schooner of all schooners would be very careful about how its sails were laced or seized on. I suspect that the use of lacings and seizings was arrived at after very careful consideration of the risks.

I know of two schooner sailing out of New York City that use the crappiest sort of natural fiber recycling twine to lash the sails to the hoops. Good sein twine is available but far too strong. The idea is that the straw colored fuzzy recycling twine, a single strand of which is easily broken by hand, is weak enough to break in a gust of wind strong enough to make the ship heal over dangerously. The lashings are passed many times though and provide enough but not too much strength.

Edited May 11, 2014 by JerseyCity Frankie

[Shura]

Thank you for history, but...

But how about my question?

 

How connect top and bottom ends rope?

[JerseyCity Frankie]

If I ever get back aboard the Pride of Baltimore II I will specifically check where the lacings are made off. But I suspect they simply terminate with a knot at each end. Probably knotted to eybolts on the jaws.

[Ed Mostowicz]

I'm not so sure about eyebolts; I haven't seen them on hoops. I think the lacing is just knotted around itself to tie it off.

[Shura]

Maybe like on image?

[JerseyCity Frankie]

Shura, Pride of Baltimore II has a facebook page, you could go there and present your question and even post your photo with the arrows. Someone there would likely know all about it.

[JerryTodd]

I'm not familiar with Pride II's set-up, but, there's several lines that might make-off at the jaws:

 

The lower hoop lacing, needed because of the rake of the mast and because the main lowers as opposed to the fore which brails up.

Gaff peak flag halliard, sometimes two, one each side

The main's out-haul goes through the boom to a block and tackle which makes off here usually, if there isn't a cleat on the boom for it.

Pride 1's main tops'l's tack made off here sometimes.

Topping lifts don't normally make off here, but I've seen it done.

 

 

[Shura]

Sorry, but nothing new.

How the rope is fixed in top and in a bottom?

Knot or eyebolt? Or on another?

Edited August 29, 2014 by Shura

[JerseyCity Frankie]

This video shot on Pride is very clear and crisp AND it can be paused at intervals where mast details are visible.  http://www.pride2.or...te-Hathaway.mp4

[Shura]

Thank you, Frankie. It's really good clip and something was new for me.

But this foremast. My question - it mainmast.

[Pyraterigger]

I think what you are asking about is the difference between how the sail is lashed to the mast hoops above the reef bands, and how the sail is tied with a single line below the reef bands, right? Its a tack lacing below.

[Shura]

I know answer on my question. Thank you to all who answer and help me.