HMS Triton History Background Request

[42rocker]

Well the title """HMS Triton History Background Request""" is about it.

We have several builds going on and the drawings of the ship but no background info.

I'll bet before the site went down there was something.

Some info please.

 

Later 42rocker

 

[Pete38]

As per Wikipedia

 

The Mermaid class frigate were a group of six 28-gun sailing frigates of the sixth rate designed in 1760 by Sir Thomas Slade, based on the scaled-down lines of HMS Aurora (originally a French prize, L'Abenakise, which had been captured in 1757).

The contract for the prototype was agreed on 12 May 1760, for a ship to be launched within twelve months, and her name was assigned as Mermaid on 28 October 1760. The contract for the second ship was agreed on 10 March 1762, for a ship to be launched within thirteen months, and the contract for the third ship was agreed on 2 April 1762, for a ship to be launched within fourteen months; both names were assigned on 30 April 1763.

Some ten years after the design was first produced, it was re-used for a second batch of three ships which were ordered on Christmas Day, 1770 during the dispute with Spain over the ownership of the Falkland Islands. While the design differences from the first batch were minor (the keel was a few inches longer), the second batch were normally designated the Modified Mermaid class.

 

 

Triton

• Ordered: 25 December 1770
• Built by: Henry Adams, Bucklers Hard.
• Keel laid: February 1771
• Launched: 1 October 1773
• Completed: 15 October 1773 to 4 November 1775 at Portsmouth Dockyard.
• Fate: Taken to pieces at Deptford Dockyard in January 1796.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[russ]

The Triton was a 28 gun frigate launched in 1773. The ship was part of a group of three frigates that were a modified version of the Mermaid class, designed by Thomas Slade in 1760. Slade created the modified design in 1770, shortly before his death in 1771. The three frigates in that second group were Triton, Boreas, and Greyhound.

 

Triton was built at Henry Adams' shipyard at Buckler's Hard. The keel was laid in 1771, she was launched on October 1, 1773, and she began fitting on October 15, 1773. She sailed for the North American colonies in 1776. In 1778, she captured a privateer named Pompey. She returned to England in 1779 for refitting and coppering. She also had carronades added at that time. Later that year she took another privateer, Gates. She was present at the Battle of St. Vincent of 1780, as well as the Battle of the Saintes in 1782. She underwent a Great Repair in 1783-84 and spent the early 1790s in the Caribbean. She was broken up in 1796.

 

Russ

[42rocker]

I have heard that she was in a group of ships that included the HMS Warrior. Anything on this?

 

Pete38 and russ

Thanks for those facts.

 

Does anyone know if the log is still out there? Any great tales or anything else?

 

Later 42rocker

[russ]

Warrior was a 74 gun ship. Totally different type of ship. The British Public Records Office will have Triton's logbooks.

 

I did not choose Triton for her colorful career. Indeed, the main things behind my choosing this ship was 1) she is a beautiful frigate, 2) designed by Thomas Slade and 3) there is a complete "as launched" draught of her, complete with carved details and figurehead, as well as a framing plan for Greyhound, and deck plans for the class. I went with a ship that good source material with which to build a model.

 

Russ

[42rocker]

Well just found this

 

Triton, 1773
Type: ; Armament 28
Launched : 1773 ; Disposal date or year : 1796
Disposal Details : BU
Notes:
1782 Rodney's victory over French under Comte de Grasse

 

from

 

http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/18-1900/T/04887.html

 

has 4 different Triton's listed.

 

home page listing -- note this site has lots of ships listed.      http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/18-1900/Index.html

 

More that I found

 

 

HMS Triton was a modified Mermaid-class sixth-rate frigate of the Royal Navy. She was first commissioned in August 1775 under Captain Skeffington Lutwidge.

Notes References

• Robert Gardiner, The First Frigates, Conway Maritime Press, London 1992. ISBN 0-85177-601-9.
• David Lyon, The Sailing Navy List, Conway Maritime Press, London 1993. ISBN 0-85177-617-5.
• Rif Winfield, British Warships in the Age of Sail, 1714 to 1792, Seaforth Publishing, London 2007. ISBN 978-1-84415-700-6.

Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/hms-triton-1773#ixzz2O8aQIhBC

 

MORE ====================

 

Name: HMS Triton Ordered: 25 December 1770 Builder: Henry Adams, Bucklers Hard Laid down: February 1771 Launched: 1 October 1773 Completed: 4 November 1775 at Portsmouth Dockyard Commissioned: August 1775 Fate: Taken to pieces at Deptford in January 1796 General characteristics Class & type: Modified Mermaid-class frigate Displacement: 620 21⁄94 (bm) Length: 124 ft 1 in (37.82 m) (gundeck)
103 ft 4.625 in (31.51188 m) (keel) Beam: 33 ft 7 in (10.24 m) Sail plan: Full-rigged ship Complement: 200 officers and men Armament:

28 guns comprising

• Upper deck: 24 × 9-pounder cannon
• Quarterdeck 4 × 3-pounder cannon
• 12 swivels.

 

more

 

HMS Triton was a 28-gun sixth-rate frigate launched in 1771. She served with Rear Admiral Sir Samuel Hood's fleet off Nevis on 25 January 1782. She was broken up in 1796.

Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/hms-triton#ixzz2O8bBUXP4

 

Hope we can find more info.

 

Later 42rocker

[42rocker]

Russ

You made your post as I was out there looking for more.

Yes the HMS Warrior is totally different, as I was told that both were in a convoy together and was not sure if a fact or not. As far as HMS Warrior's go my wife and I have had the pleasure of being on and taking a tour of the HMS Warrior while in Portsmouth. 1st of Great Britain's line of iron clad steam ships. Of course the HMS Warrior that I was talking about was the one before the ironclad one.

 

A very interesting ship that you picked out to model and share with the plans of, with us. Many Thanks. From the line drawings that I've seen she has fine lines to her.

 

As far as history goes I'm always interested in the background of things. Thanks to everyone.

 

Later 42rocker

[russ]

The basic information on her dimensions and armament, as well as changes over the years, can be found in Gardiner's The First Frigates.

 

Slade was one of the more innovative designers of his time.It was what attracted me to this design at first. He also designed the Niger/Alarm class of which Winchelsea is a member. That is the ship that Chuck is modeling.  

 

Russ

[AnobiumPunctatum]

For her career you can also look in Winfield:"British Warships in the Age of Sail 1714 - 1792)"

 

The first three ships of the class were HMS Mermaid, HMS Hussar und HMS Solebay after a design of Th. Slade from the early 1760th. After a redesign of the lower hull there were built three other vessels of the class: HMS Greyhound, HMS Triton und HMS Boreas in the early 1770ths.

 

 

[42rocker]

More info..

 

Thanks everyone..

 

Later 42rocker

[russ]

I got her operational history from Winfield's book.

 

As for her altered underbody design, this was one of Slade's little habits. He was quite often trying to improve on a successful design. He tried this with several frigate designs with varyng degrees of success. By most accounts, the second group of Mermaids was not as successful as the first. They were average to good sailers, but the original Mermaid class had better overall sailing qualities.

 

Russ

[the learner]

a facinating bit of information on the Triton...good motivation for the build and Russ you say that  there are complete "as launched" draughts available and  also a set the  carving  details and figurehead, as well as a framing plan for Greyhound, and deck plans for this class?

[russ]

Guy:

Yes, those drawings are what we used in developing the plans for this build.

 

Russ

[the learner]

Do ;I need to order a set or wil enough information be provided in the build>

[russ]

Everything you need should be in the drawings that were created for this build.

 

Russ