Pete38

Triton Cross Section 1:32 (Pete 38)

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The good thing about my build log is it had just started so won't take long to get back everything, just have to rember where I put the pictures. Will post later tonight!  It's just good to be back.

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Here we go.  The cherry wood was given to me by a friend where I work. More than enough for this build and then some. Resized the wood to the thickness I needed and then using 3M spray adhesive, applied the frames to the wood. Cut out all the frames and stored in separate marked bags so I wouldn't get confused :huh: post-63-0-47403100-1360971344_thumb.jpgpost-63-0-55771200-1360971376_thumb.jpgpost-63-0-06807300-1360971395_thumb.jpgpost-63-0-39189000-1360971411_thumb.jpg

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Next started the keel, keelson and false keel. Sawed and sanded to size using my Byrnes table saw and thickness sander. When cutting the rabbit I used a razor blade shaped to the size. Before I started scrapping with the blade, since I am doing this in 1:32 scale was able to take a lot of the wast out of the rabbit with the table saw. Then I used the blade to final shape the rabbit.

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Next I started building my buildboard. Using some 3/4 MDF and some shelving brackets (taken from a shelf in my garage) I used spray adhesive to attached the frame locations to the buildboard.

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Next I am going to make the frame jig I need to glue the frames up. Hopefully this weekend will have something new to post!

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Good to see you back and at it, Pete.

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Very nice and sturdy right angle jig. Good work so far.

 

Russ

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Nice slabs of cherry.  Must be a good friend.  :)   Very good start on your TRITON Cross Section. 

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Mark, Thanks for looking in.

 

Russ Wanted to make sure everything would be square!

 

Bob   Real good friend, says he has about 200 board ft in the attic of a barn for the last 15 or so years. Doesn't know what to do with, so I can get more if needed. He is into blacksmithing (has his own forge, so I throw some old files and stuff his way :)  when I find them.

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Hi Pete, Well done and thanks for re-starting your build. It's great to have a friend to trade with isn't it.

I recived some cherry cut offs once several years ago and I'm still using them.

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Today I finished making my frame gluing up jig.  Then I started assembly of lmy first frame "c" ,  I have done made 3 futocks for "c" so my scap pile should be fairly large when I get done.

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Pete:

You might consider puting the papered sides facing away from each other in the finished frame. That will make it easier to see the layout lines on both sides of the frame. It will also make it easier to clean off the paper after the frames are glued up.

 

Russ

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 Hello Pete i am really pleased to see you have been able to almost completely salvage and restart your  build log, How fortunate you are to have acess to a good supply of cherry. Old files for new cherry seems like a really good deal. I am looking forward to seeing everything "jigged up".

 the forum is quickly coming back to life thank goodness.

Thanks for sharing And also for dropping in on me,

 Kip

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I have finally completed my first frame!!!!!!!   I am thinking about framing my frame in a frame :D

I know there is a lot of final sanding and fitting to do to it, but it's my first... here are a few pictures of my frame

 

Front view

 

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Side view

 

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Sawdust thank for dropping in. I still have to keep a check on the Sultana guys. I have not gave up on it. It sits on the shelf next to me and I will do a little on it now and then, Will have to restart my build thread on it.

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Russ

     Good idea, will do that when I get to that point. Thanks

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Your first frame looks good. Nice work.

 

Russ

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Congratulations on your first frame.  What  are you going to name it?  lol   Nice work, keep it up.

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Russ, Bob and Rummy thanks for looking in and the comments. 

I do have a question. I had saved the information from the old msw on treenail size's but I can not seem to find it. Does anyone have a list of treenail sizes (actual Size) that is used in the cross section build.

Right now I am interested in the size to treenail the frames. I have the Book "HMS EURYALUS" by Allan Yedlinsky, and it says on the square frames a treenail size of 1" to 1 1/2" in diameter. Will this hold true for

the cross section???

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At your larger scale, you can go down to 1" and it will look good.

 

Russ

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Thanks Russ, That was the way I was leaning, Smaller is better on some details.

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While looking through some flash drives that I had at work, I found 1 page saved from an original forum on the old MSW about treenail. This reply is credited to Russ. I hope it is okay to post it here in my log, if not let me know and I'll remove it or the moderators can. THIS IS FOR GENERAL USE ONLY AND NOT A HARD AND FAST RULE.

 

"Okay, here is a rough set of dimensions to use for various parts of the model in the three scales.

 

1/48 scale Frames, no 61 bit (.039", 1mm), hull planking, no 76 bit (.020" .5mm), deck beams, knees, bitts, etc, no 68 bit (.031" .8mm), and for securing the frames and the keelson, a no 52 bit (.0625" 1.5mm) will do fine.

 

1/64 scale Frames, no 69 bit (.029" .75mm), hull planking, no 79 bit (.015" .4mm), deck beams, knees, bitts, etc, no 73 bit (.024" .6mm), and for securing the frames and keelson use the same 1/16" diameter bit as used in 1/48 scale. It will work fine.

 

1/96 scale Frames, no 76 bit (.020" .5mm), hull planking, no 80 bit (.0135" .4mm) deck beams, knees, bitts etc, no 76 bit (.020" .5mm) and for securing the frames and keelson, no 61 bit (.039" 1mm)

 

Please, please, please keep in mind these are very rough and very general dimensions. This is a guide, not a set of hard and fast rules. So long as you are close, there should be no big problems. If you do not want to treenail your planking in 1/96 scale, that's fine, but if you do, you might want to use something a bit larger than no 80. Its the builder's choice."

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That is the sort of thing that we do need to rescue as the Triton especially had a lot of great information collated by the original authors to assist.

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I may be thinking alittle ahead here (alot) but the friend that gave me the cherry wood for 3 used files, just gave me enough maple for decking boards and ceiling :dancetl6:

 

All this cost me was 2 boxs of "Girls Scout Cookies" ($7.00)  not to bad.

 

So far the cost of my build is faily cheap. Hope it stays this way.

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That maple looks pretty good. I see some figure it one end of it. That might have to avoided, but I would just suggest careful selection in any event. Make sure the saw blade is sharp. I have found that maple will get burn marks if the blade is anything but sharp.

 

Russ

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Pete,

If Russ agrees, put that treenail info into a new topic in the download area.  I think it would be very useful to have.

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Do with that treenailing list what you will.

 

Russ

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Done, I may attempt to drag some of the other stickies that were generated in the original forum. From memory there were some excellent ones on build order as well...

 

Joss

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Found these 2 pictures of the stern on the Triton build. 

Moderators move them if you want.

 

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