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nancysqueaks reacted to tadheus in La Salamandre by tadheus - 1:24
I graduated from the internal stack to the height of the deck boards.
The whole process of this model is described at this address:
http://www.koga.net....php?f=7&t=45782
on Polish modeling forum "Koga"
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nancysqueaks reacted to Captain Slog in MS Batory by nancysqueaks - Maly Modelarz - 1:300 - CARD
Hi Nick,
Your progress is looking really solid and you should be left with a strong stiff skeleton for skinning.
With regards to to placing your photos with-in the text here is what I do.
1. I type all my text in Word first as I can type as long as I want without worrying about MSW timing out although not sure if that is an issue or not.
2. Click more reply options and then copy and paste the text from Word in to the text box. I put a couple of spaces with-in the text where I want to place my picture and type place holders such as PHOTO1, PHOTO2 etc
3. Go to below the text box and click the "Choose Files..." button under where it says attach files.
4. Select all the photos and upload them all in one hit.
5. Go back into the main body text and delete your place holder 'PHOTO1' and where the curser is flashing is where the photo will be inserted. Go to the list of uploaded photos and click insert. It will upload the photo.
6 Go to your next placeholder and again delete the PHOTO2 words and click insert for the next desired photo and continue on until all your uploaded photos have been inserted where you want.
Cheers
Slog
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nancysqueaks got a reaction from mtaylor in MS Batory by nancysqueaks - Maly Modelarz - 1:300 - CARD
Hello all,
Many thanks to Slog for putting me on the right track for posting photos and description.
I have to admit it was causing me extreme frustration, and I'm not too sure whether I
would have sorted that one.
Thank you for Tadheus and NJQUACK for your likes.
I'm resting up from the build to get the garden ready for winter, it's supposed to be Autumn
in the UK but we have been enjoying Spring like temps. I will also attempt to finish the hull in
skeletal form before posting.
Regards, Nick.
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nancysqueaks got a reaction from mtaylor in MS Batory by nancysqueaks - Maly Modelarz - 1:300 - CARD
Hi everyone,
Whilst there has been very little visual progress, I have started on the strengthening
of the hull using in the main card. I have started making two 'decks' that slot
into the bulkheads. This idea is of course not original and is a copy of some of the kit
build logs on the forum. Accuracy is paramount here and some attention to the alignment
of the slots for no 6 bulkhead is indicated in one of the photos!!
What would be useful if someone could just tell me what I'm not doing being unable in
getting the description of the photos linked with them. Any help really appreciated, until I do
sort it I will just have to describe them here.
First two photos show cutting first slot for 'deck', and the new deck (not faired).
The next three photos are general views of the dry fitting of the deck.
The following are general view with the slot of no 6 looking a bit out, unless the camera
is lying!
Regards, Nick.
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nancysqueaks got a reaction from hexnut in MS Batory by nancysqueaks - Maly Modelarz - 1:300 - CARD
Hello to all,
Following my last post I have decided to start the build again from scratch. I will be using the existing
first build as a 'rough and ready' test bed. I really had underestimated the learning curve as to what one
could and couldn't do.
The first picture show very sloppy cutting and the bulkheads whilst requiring some thickening do need to
be square with the bulkheads. I think I imagined being card that a bit of leeway would be available for
detailed fitting - not so!!
The second picture just shows testing the fit of the skins to the bulkheads (my terminology)
The following two pictures are how I propose to use an old candlestick to make a pedestal, connected
via a M4 screw held in place by a wing nut with reduced wings.
So I will continue the build log and attempt to crack loading pictures via full editor, not having much success
so far! And will in effect have two builds going on at the same time may help, I hope 'get it right' first time.
I have also found a good 1mm backing paper that cuts very much easier than the original backing I was
using.
This should help me cut more accurate lines.
I have certainly found a new interest in card models, and it is so easy to just 'do a bit' without much fuss.
It will be some time to get to the waterline hull, but I will from now on post the build log with more detail.
Regards Nick
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nancysqueaks got a reaction from hexnut in MS Batory by nancysqueaks - Maly Modelarz - 1:300 - CARD
Hello everybody,
I have some difficulty in getting the photos nicely meshed with the joined up writing,
so for the moment will put the description first and then the photos!
Well I have been busy re-cutting the bulkheads, I think there are going to be fitting problems with the skin of the hull anyway so sloppy cutting was not a positive feature. This time following the build logs I wicked a cheap CA adhesive to the edges of the bulkheads. After curing I then cleaned the edges up with a standard emery board, and found it offered slightly better performance for this job than home made silicon carbine stuck on sticks of wood.
I am now in the process of strengthening the hull using balsa stringers, no glue yet so will have to see whether this will be ok of should really use hardwood. I plan to mount the ship on pedestals so it is important the keel particularly is true.
I think the photos are all self explanatory. The hull will I am sure have to be filled and painted, and the question I would like some advice about is whether to try and simulate steel plates. The scale is a tad small but I feel it might be an attractive feature. An the next question is what would have been the size of the plates and I assume that in the 1930's these would have been riveted.
I enclose some photos that follow the description above
Regards, Nick
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nancysqueaks got a reaction from Robin Lous in MS Batory by nancysqueaks - Maly Modelarz - 1:300 - CARD
Hello All,
The following photographs show the hull 'dry assembly'. I
have photocopied the original kit parts and am using my copies
glued to card. My original idea was do 'dummy runs' to gain
experience and experiment. This is still my aim, but if the copy
at a stage is satisfactory, then the dummy becomes the part.
I have also decided not to become a slave to card, I will, if I feel I
can make a part using other materials or a mixture of materials and
the part is satisfactory to me then I will use it. I am in utter admiration
at the skill card modellers exhibit and I shall attempt to follow their
guidance and advice. I look at the lifeboats and wonder how anybody
can make them all out of card.
I have yet to work out how to post pictures with an interspersed commentary,
but I will get there, and also promise some better quality photographs. The
following show the dry fitting and is prior to careful fitting, strengthening, and
final assembly. I hope!
Regards, Nick.
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nancysqueaks got a reaction from Robin Lous in MS Batory by nancysqueaks - Maly Modelarz - 1:300 - CARD
Hello to all, I seem yet to sus the photo procedure but will persevere. However the first
photos a of the kit in the form of a booklet some of which needs gluing to card.
I have started on the hull and these are the main components mounted on 1mm card.
Again I will see how this has this post has turned out.
Regards, Nick.
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nancysqueaks got a reaction from hexnut in MS Batory by nancysqueaks - Maly Modelarz - 1:300 - CARD
Hi everyone,
Whilst there has been very little visual progress, I have started on the strengthening
of the hull using in the main card. I have started making two 'decks' that slot
into the bulkheads. This idea is of course not original and is a copy of some of the kit
build logs on the forum. Accuracy is paramount here and some attention to the alignment
of the slots for no 6 bulkhead is indicated in one of the photos!!
What would be useful if someone could just tell me what I'm not doing being unable in
getting the description of the photos linked with them. Any help really appreciated, until I do
sort it I will just have to describe them here.
First two photos show cutting first slot for 'deck', and the new deck (not faired).
The next three photos are general views of the dry fitting of the deck.
The following are general view with the slot of no 6 looking a bit out, unless the camera
is lying!
Regards, Nick.
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nancysqueaks got a reaction from NJQUACK in MS Batory by nancysqueaks - Maly Modelarz - 1:300 - CARD
Hi everyone,
Whilst there has been very little visual progress, I have started on the strengthening
of the hull using in the main card. I have started making two 'decks' that slot
into the bulkheads. This idea is of course not original and is a copy of some of the kit
build logs on the forum. Accuracy is paramount here and some attention to the alignment
of the slots for no 6 bulkhead is indicated in one of the photos!!
What would be useful if someone could just tell me what I'm not doing being unable in
getting the description of the photos linked with them. Any help really appreciated, until I do
sort it I will just have to describe them here.
First two photos show cutting first slot for 'deck', and the new deck (not faired).
The next three photos are general views of the dry fitting of the deck.
The following are general view with the slot of no 6 looking a bit out, unless the camera
is lying!
Regards, Nick.
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nancysqueaks got a reaction from Captain Slog in MS Batory by nancysqueaks - Maly Modelarz - 1:300 - CARD
Hi everyone,
Whilst there has been very little visual progress, I have started on the strengthening
of the hull using in the main card. I have started making two 'decks' that slot
into the bulkheads. This idea is of course not original and is a copy of some of the kit
build logs on the forum. Accuracy is paramount here and some attention to the alignment
of the slots for no 6 bulkhead is indicated in one of the photos!!
What would be useful if someone could just tell me what I'm not doing being unable in
getting the description of the photos linked with them. Any help really appreciated, until I do
sort it I will just have to describe them here.
First two photos show cutting first slot for 'deck', and the new deck (not faired).
The next three photos are general views of the dry fitting of the deck.
The following are general view with the slot of no 6 looking a bit out, unless the camera
is lying!
Regards, Nick.
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nancysqueaks got a reaction from tadheus in MS Batory by nancysqueaks - Maly Modelarz - 1:300 - CARD
Hello everybody,
I have some difficulty in getting the photos nicely meshed with the joined up writing,
so for the moment will put the description first and then the photos!
Well I have been busy re-cutting the bulkheads, I think there are going to be fitting problems with the skin of the hull anyway so sloppy cutting was not a positive feature. This time following the build logs I wicked a cheap CA adhesive to the edges of the bulkheads. After curing I then cleaned the edges up with a standard emery board, and found it offered slightly better performance for this job than home made silicon carbine stuck on sticks of wood.
I am now in the process of strengthening the hull using balsa stringers, no glue yet so will have to see whether this will be ok of should really use hardwood. I plan to mount the ship on pedestals so it is important the keel particularly is true.
I think the photos are all self explanatory. The hull will I am sure have to be filled and painted, and the question I would like some advice about is whether to try and simulate steel plates. The scale is a tad small but I feel it might be an attractive feature. An the next question is what would have been the size of the plates and I assume that in the 1930's these would have been riveted.
I enclose some photos that follow the description above
Regards, Nick
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nancysqueaks got a reaction from hexnut in MS Batory by nancysqueaks - Maly Modelarz - 1:300 - CARD
Hello All,
The following photographs show the hull 'dry assembly'. I
have photocopied the original kit parts and am using my copies
glued to card. My original idea was do 'dummy runs' to gain
experience and experiment. This is still my aim, but if the copy
at a stage is satisfactory, then the dummy becomes the part.
I have also decided not to become a slave to card, I will, if I feel I
can make a part using other materials or a mixture of materials and
the part is satisfactory to me then I will use it. I am in utter admiration
at the skill card modellers exhibit and I shall attempt to follow their
guidance and advice. I look at the lifeboats and wonder how anybody
can make them all out of card.
I have yet to work out how to post pictures with an interspersed commentary,
but I will get there, and also promise some better quality photographs. The
following show the dry fitting and is prior to careful fitting, strengthening, and
final assembly. I hope!
Regards, Nick.
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nancysqueaks got a reaction from hexnut in MS Batory by nancysqueaks - Maly Modelarz - 1:300 - CARD
Hello to all, I seem yet to sus the photo procedure but will persevere. However the first
photos a of the kit in the form of a booklet some of which needs gluing to card.
I have started on the hull and these are the main components mounted on 1mm card.
Again I will see how this has this post has turned out.
Regards, Nick.
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nancysqueaks got a reaction from Robin Lous in MS Batory by nancysqueaks - Maly Modelarz - 1:300 - CARD
I am just starting my first card model. Having planned to build Leon some
years ago, and collected materials and re-drafted the Underhill drawings,
I was ready to go. Other that my workshop has become workshop for other
projects. I have been influenced by the excellent tutorial, and build logs on MSW to have
a shot at a card model.
I have purchased the Mercury (featured in one of the build logs) but decided to
cut my teeth on a somewhat simpler model. Well the only ones that were simple
were as the name implied simple and would not be too exciting. After much
casting around I bought the Polish liner Batory. All set for a sailing ship as well!
I liner has quite a history and a lot of information is available on the Internet as
well as a number of interesting videos on You Tube. The following is a picture of
the vessel in 1962 and is in the public domain.
I am not too sure whether this has loading the photo, however I have started the build
and hope to start documentation of the build after checking this post.
Regards to all, Nick
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nancysqueaks got a reaction from mtaylor in MS Batory by nancysqueaks - Maly Modelarz - 1:300 - CARD
Hi All,
Thank you slog for your comments on cutting, I do find I am getting a bit better at cutting both
square and just to the right side of the line. So far on the new work things are fitting better but
going a lot slower. I am trying to 'second guess' problems and I think I would be tempted if possible
not to join on a former of .5mm! And looking at some of the very small detail work coming up I think
I will be repeating sections until I am happy. This seems the real advantage of card, one it is a challenge
to make it 'not look like card' and also to 'make it from card'.
And many thanks to Mumin for some really interesting links to build logs. I think for the moment I would
leave expanding foam, particularly on this small model as my worry is to maintain the formers at a right
angle to the 'keel', however as mentioned the build logs are a real eye opener as to what can and is being
achieved in card.
I seem to be developing a mind set of firstly building as much as the model in card. To this end I am substituting
card for wood in all but the two bottom stringers as indicated in my earlier photos. I am underway with the working out
the layout of these card 'stringers' and hope to get some progress that is worth detailing in the log by the week
end.
I found that GMP have some photo etch parts for this model and ....... well I couldn't resist ordering, so maybe by the
end of the week!
Regards, Nick.
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nancysqueaks got a reaction from Mumin in MS Batory by nancysqueaks - Maly Modelarz - 1:300 - CARD
Hi All,
Thank you slog for your comments on cutting, I do find I am getting a bit better at cutting both
square and just to the right side of the line. So far on the new work things are fitting better but
going a lot slower. I am trying to 'second guess' problems and I think I would be tempted if possible
not to join on a former of .5mm! And looking at some of the very small detail work coming up I think
I will be repeating sections until I am happy. This seems the real advantage of card, one it is a challenge
to make it 'not look like card' and also to 'make it from card'.
And many thanks to Mumin for some really interesting links to build logs. I think for the moment I would
leave expanding foam, particularly on this small model as my worry is to maintain the formers at a right
angle to the 'keel', however as mentioned the build logs are a real eye opener as to what can and is being
achieved in card.
I seem to be developing a mind set of firstly building as much as the model in card. To this end I am substituting
card for wood in all but the two bottom stringers as indicated in my earlier photos. I am underway with the working out
the layout of these card 'stringers' and hope to get some progress that is worth detailing in the log by the week
end.
I found that GMP have some photo etch parts for this model and ....... well I couldn't resist ordering, so maybe by the
end of the week!
Regards, Nick.
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nancysqueaks got a reaction from druxey in MS Batory by nancysqueaks - Maly Modelarz - 1:300 - CARD
Hello to all,
Following my last post I have decided to start the build again from scratch. I will be using the existing
first build as a 'rough and ready' test bed. I really had underestimated the learning curve as to what one
could and couldn't do.
The first picture show very sloppy cutting and the bulkheads whilst requiring some thickening do need to
be square with the bulkheads. I think I imagined being card that a bit of leeway would be available for
detailed fitting - not so!!
The second picture just shows testing the fit of the skins to the bulkheads (my terminology)
The following two pictures are how I propose to use an old candlestick to make a pedestal, connected
via a M4 screw held in place by a wing nut with reduced wings.
So I will continue the build log and attempt to crack loading pictures via full editor, not having much success
so far! And will in effect have two builds going on at the same time may help, I hope 'get it right' first time.
I have also found a good 1mm backing paper that cuts very much easier than the original backing I was
using.
This should help me cut more accurate lines.
I have certainly found a new interest in card models, and it is so easy to just 'do a bit' without much fuss.
It will be some time to get to the waterline hull, but I will from now on post the build log with more detail.
Regards Nick
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nancysqueaks got a reaction from druxey in MS Batory by nancysqueaks - Maly Modelarz - 1:300 - CARD
Hello everybody,
I have some difficulty in getting the photos nicely meshed with the joined up writing,
so for the moment will put the description first and then the photos!
Well I have been busy re-cutting the bulkheads, I think there are going to be fitting problems with the skin of the hull anyway so sloppy cutting was not a positive feature. This time following the build logs I wicked a cheap CA adhesive to the edges of the bulkheads. After curing I then cleaned the edges up with a standard emery board, and found it offered slightly better performance for this job than home made silicon carbine stuck on sticks of wood.
I am now in the process of strengthening the hull using balsa stringers, no glue yet so will have to see whether this will be ok of should really use hardwood. I plan to mount the ship on pedestals so it is important the keel particularly is true.
I think the photos are all self explanatory. The hull will I am sure have to be filled and painted, and the question I would like some advice about is whether to try and simulate steel plates. The scale is a tad small but I feel it might be an attractive feature. An the next question is what would have been the size of the plates and I assume that in the 1930's these would have been riveted.
I enclose some photos that follow the description above
Regards, Nick
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nancysqueaks got a reaction from tadheus in MS Batory by nancysqueaks - Maly Modelarz - 1:300 - CARD
Hello All,
The following photographs show the hull 'dry assembly'. I
have photocopied the original kit parts and am using my copies
glued to card. My original idea was do 'dummy runs' to gain
experience and experiment. This is still my aim, but if the copy
at a stage is satisfactory, then the dummy becomes the part.
I have also decided not to become a slave to card, I will, if I feel I
can make a part using other materials or a mixture of materials and
the part is satisfactory to me then I will use it. I am in utter admiration
at the skill card modellers exhibit and I shall attempt to follow their
guidance and advice. I look at the lifeboats and wonder how anybody
can make them all out of card.
I have yet to work out how to post pictures with an interspersed commentary,
but I will get there, and also promise some better quality photographs. The
following show the dry fitting and is prior to careful fitting, strengthening, and
final assembly. I hope!
Regards, Nick.
-
nancysqueaks got a reaction from Mumin in MS Batory by nancysqueaks - Maly Modelarz - 1:300 - CARD
Hello to all,
Following my last post I have decided to start the build again from scratch. I will be using the existing
first build as a 'rough and ready' test bed. I really had underestimated the learning curve as to what one
could and couldn't do.
The first picture show very sloppy cutting and the bulkheads whilst requiring some thickening do need to
be square with the bulkheads. I think I imagined being card that a bit of leeway would be available for
detailed fitting - not so!!
The second picture just shows testing the fit of the skins to the bulkheads (my terminology)
The following two pictures are how I propose to use an old candlestick to make a pedestal, connected
via a M4 screw held in place by a wing nut with reduced wings.
So I will continue the build log and attempt to crack loading pictures via full editor, not having much success
so far! And will in effect have two builds going on at the same time may help, I hope 'get it right' first time.
I have also found a good 1mm backing paper that cuts very much easier than the original backing I was
using.
This should help me cut more accurate lines.
I have certainly found a new interest in card models, and it is so easy to just 'do a bit' without much fuss.
It will be some time to get to the waterline hull, but I will from now on post the build log with more detail.
Regards Nick
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nancysqueaks reacted to Captain Slog in MS Batory by nancysqueaks - Maly Modelarz - 1:300 - CARD
Hi Nick,
Good to see you are continuing with the build.
With regards to accuracy sometimes you will be butting joints on a 0.5mm former so accuracy is paramount as you have discovered. Also sometimes it makes a difference if you cut on the line or either side of it! Saying that I have a subconscious habit of cutting outside the line which adversely effects my joints sometimes.
Like you I like how easy it is to do a bit of modelling with minimum fuss, a knife and ruler most times is all you need to make some progress.
Looking forward to seeing more.
Cheers
slog
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nancysqueaks got a reaction from Captain Slog in MS Batory by nancysqueaks - Maly Modelarz - 1:300 - CARD
Hello to all,
Following my last post I have decided to start the build again from scratch. I will be using the existing
first build as a 'rough and ready' test bed. I really had underestimated the learning curve as to what one
could and couldn't do.
The first picture show very sloppy cutting and the bulkheads whilst requiring some thickening do need to
be square with the bulkheads. I think I imagined being card that a bit of leeway would be available for
detailed fitting - not so!!
The second picture just shows testing the fit of the skins to the bulkheads (my terminology)
The following two pictures are how I propose to use an old candlestick to make a pedestal, connected
via a M4 screw held in place by a wing nut with reduced wings.
So I will continue the build log and attempt to crack loading pictures via full editor, not having much success
so far! And will in effect have two builds going on at the same time may help, I hope 'get it right' first time.
I have also found a good 1mm backing paper that cuts very much easier than the original backing I was
using.
This should help me cut more accurate lines.
I have certainly found a new interest in card models, and it is so easy to just 'do a bit' without much fuss.
It will be some time to get to the waterline hull, but I will from now on post the build log with more detail.
Regards Nick
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nancysqueaks got a reaction from mtaylor in MS Batory by nancysqueaks - Maly Modelarz - 1:300 - CARD
Hello to all,
Following my last post I have decided to start the build again from scratch. I will be using the existing
first build as a 'rough and ready' test bed. I really had underestimated the learning curve as to what one
could and couldn't do.
The first picture show very sloppy cutting and the bulkheads whilst requiring some thickening do need to
be square with the bulkheads. I think I imagined being card that a bit of leeway would be available for
detailed fitting - not so!!
The second picture just shows testing the fit of the skins to the bulkheads (my terminology)
The following two pictures are how I propose to use an old candlestick to make a pedestal, connected
via a M4 screw held in place by a wing nut with reduced wings.
So I will continue the build log and attempt to crack loading pictures via full editor, not having much success
so far! And will in effect have two builds going on at the same time may help, I hope 'get it right' first time.
I have also found a good 1mm backing paper that cuts very much easier than the original backing I was
using.
This should help me cut more accurate lines.
I have certainly found a new interest in card models, and it is so easy to just 'do a bit' without much fuss.
It will be some time to get to the waterline hull, but I will from now on post the build log with more detail.
Regards Nick
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nancysqueaks got a reaction from GuntherMT in MS Batory by nancysqueaks - Maly Modelarz - 1:300 - CARD
Hello to all,
Following my last post I have decided to start the build again from scratch. I will be using the existing
first build as a 'rough and ready' test bed. I really had underestimated the learning curve as to what one
could and couldn't do.
The first picture show very sloppy cutting and the bulkheads whilst requiring some thickening do need to
be square with the bulkheads. I think I imagined being card that a bit of leeway would be available for
detailed fitting - not so!!
The second picture just shows testing the fit of the skins to the bulkheads (my terminology)
The following two pictures are how I propose to use an old candlestick to make a pedestal, connected
via a M4 screw held in place by a wing nut with reduced wings.
So I will continue the build log and attempt to crack loading pictures via full editor, not having much success
so far! And will in effect have two builds going on at the same time may help, I hope 'get it right' first time.
I have also found a good 1mm backing paper that cuts very much easier than the original backing I was
using.
This should help me cut more accurate lines.
I have certainly found a new interest in card models, and it is so easy to just 'do a bit' without much fuss.
It will be some time to get to the waterline hull, but I will from now on post the build log with more detail.
Regards Nick