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Dutchman got a reaction from FrankWouts in Hermoine La Fayette by PeterB010 - Artesania Latina - Scale 1:89
Hi, fellow countryman! I will follow your build with much interest, for I have this one on my shelf. But it will be a while though before I will start it. I have the Polotsk to finish and the Avos is on its way, which I will start on first, I think. Nice planking! I hope I will succeed in doing it right, because it is single planking I believe. The Polotsk and Avos have double planking, so one can easily cover up the mistakes of the first layer. I also have visited the Hermione in Rochefort (twice even). A great and beautiful ship! Sail on!
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Dutchman reacted to Gaffrig in Le Renard by Gaffrig - FINISHED - Artesania Latina - Scale 1:50
Hello.
No worries about hijacking! It's all good info.
I have been looking at the rigging instructions and there seem to be a lot of simplified solutions compared to the real ship.
I will probably make some adjustments as necessary.
A small update for today.
Have finished the rigging of the carronades as I think this will be good to get done before I start the rigging of the mast.
I think the access after the mast is up will be limited.
I made up two tackles, one with the kit supplied blocks, and one with aftermarket 3mm blocks, as suggested by Rick01.
I decided to rig the blocks with rope instead of wire as I think this was easier and better looking.
When using the kit supplied blocks the whole tackle ended up too long to fit, so I went with the aftermarket ones.
The first one fitted on deck..
Time for some mass production..
Quite time consuming making all these small tackles, but a good feeling when they are all in place!
Now I need to glue in place all the little "height adjusters" to get the barrels straight.
That's it for now!
Stay safe!
Gaffrig.
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Dutchman reacted to Rick01 in Le Renard by Gaffrig - FINISHED - Artesania Latina - Scale 1:50
Hi Tom,
One of the AL problems is less than clear instructions. In this case the "connections" are eye bolts, just above and forrard of them is a hole that the running rigging for the yard arms is passed through before attaching to the relevant knight heads. I rigged mine model with somewhat more complexity than AL show, so if you look at this photo you'll see a block at the yard arm tips.
The yard brace is then run up to the block and back down, through the gunwales and then looped round the knighthead (if that's the right word). It just makes more sense to me to run the braces this way than the way AL illustrate.
These two shots should make it clearer.
Apologies for sort of hijacking your thread here Gafrigg 😞
Forgot the cleats - just a drop of supa glue and a prayer that I didn't become part of the attachment.
Rick
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Dutchman reacted to Tompslattery in Le Renard by Tompslattery - FINISHED - Artesania Latina
Been quite slack lately, just got back into it. This is where it's at. Reasonably happy with how the paint came out, the masking tape lifted some off but thats probably because its been on there for months. Hopefully will be able to touch it up so it looks ok.
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Dutchman got a reaction from PeterB010 in Hermoine La Fayette by PeterB010 - Artesania Latina - Scale 1:89
I noticed an interesting coin......As for running, let's see to the running rigging first. Glad to see you're on the mend, mate!
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Dutchman reacted to jks1981 in Hermione La Fayette by jks1981 - Artesania Latina - 1:89 Scale
Adding some colour. Although I suppose black and white aren’t colours....
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Dutchman reacted to moreplovac in Phoenix by Moreplovac - FINISHED - Master Korabel - 1/72 - Russian Brigantine
Ending up with the last piece of handrails....
First a short bath in a water, then twisting it to correct position with a help from little dudes..
Leaving it in position to dry for tomorrow' final gluing..
Stairs are next. This part is very easy to build comparing with other models where you actually have to do some math and correctly position all steps. With this kit all is already done for you, almost like some Revell's plastic kit models, where you cut pieces from the frame, sand them a bit and glue itno position..
Glue is applied while parts are still on the frame..
Then glue another part on...
Once it is dried (and make sure it is really dried), cut if off and start assembly. Don't worry about sanding of extra wood, it will be done after stairs are assembled.
The steps slides in with no problem.
Now just sand stairs and you are ready to go..
Happy modelling.
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Dutchman reacted to Gaffrig in Le Renard by Gaffrig - FINISHED - Artesania Latina - Scale 1:50
Rick01,
That looks great!
Congratulations on the finished model! 👍
I see that you have made a diffrent stand for it, I’ve thougt about the same thing as the kit supplied one is a little wonky..
Are you gonna add the sails?
The ones supplied are not the greatest but I’m gonna use them anyway.
I like how the dinghy turned out. It may be a little to «yacht like» for this model, but that’s how it will be!
Thanks to everyone for looking in and liking!
Gaffrig.
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Dutchman reacted to Rick01 in Le Renard by Gaffrig - FINISHED - Artesania Latina - Scale 1:50
Love the dinghy, particularly the rope bumper. I chose to provide two seats rather than the single that you've provided.
I've finished mine after a reasonable tussle with the rigging, eventually examining photos of the replica, models of le Cerf and various American cutters of that period as the French rigging seemed to compare with the American style rather than British navy. Anyway here are a few (bad) shots of the finished product.
Rick
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Dutchman reacted to Gaffrig in Le Renard by Gaffrig - FINISHED - Artesania Latina - Scale 1:50
Hello!
Another small update.
Been working on finishing the dinghy.
Finished the caprails, and made the thwarts and floorboards.
Made the rowlocks and decided to put a rope fender along the rail.
Finally I made a pair of oars out of toothpicks and scrapwood.
Also mounted two eyebolts to take the hoist from the davits.
With this I think I'll call the dinghy finished!
Stay safe!
Gaffrig.
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Dutchman reacted to moreplovac in Phoenix by Moreplovac - FINISHED - Master Korabel - 1/72 - Russian Brigantine
Next i am attaching the ladder; rubber is here to align the ladder's rungs...
On the instruction pictures i see some other parts of the ladder that i cannot locate in my kit parts so i have to make my own from some scrap wood.....
Then i put in a cover at the base of the masts as well as a rings..
Testing fittings..
and testing position with mast inserted to make sure it fits correctly..
The cover of stain and all done for today..
Happy modelling..
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Dutchman reacted to moreplovac in Phoenix by Moreplovac - FINISHED - Master Korabel - 1/72 - Russian Brigantine
With task of assembling the top crossbars with , the work on ship continues...
My quick solution to paint small areas and not to spent more time cleaning a brush than to actually do the painting, i use a piece of bounty paper ....
Then start making a spreaders for bowsprit's standing rigging. Was a bit concerned about the fact that after installing them, they will stick out and being on the way.. And i was right..
Snap! Literally...
Oh well, back to carving tasks of making a new one from the scrap wood..
Holes were made for spreaders..
Maybe some time in the future i will be able to obtain a correct milling machine, but for now i will just simulate sheaves.. a small ring was made that will be inserted in the hull... It is not glued in case i am able to get a correct, milled sheaves in..
Happy modelling..
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Dutchman reacted to moreplovac in Phoenix by Moreplovac - FINISHED - Master Korabel - 1/72 - Russian Brigantine
Worked on head grating which must be fairly trimmed to accommodate ship' hull curvature. The head timbers were also trimmed, fitted and installed.
Did i mentioned yet these parts are very fragile...
Happy modelling...
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Dutchman reacted to moreplovac in Phoenix by Moreplovac - FINISHED - Master Korabel - 1/72 - Russian Brigantine
Hooks and eye bolts have been completed and mounted. The locations for eye bolts are already marked so just a small pilot hole have to be made, then drill the hole and insert the hook and eye bolt..
During eye bolt making process..
Done and installed.
Happy modelling..
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Dutchman reacted to moreplovac in Phoenix by Moreplovac - FINISHED - Master Korabel - 1/72 - Russian Brigantine
Catheads are next starting by gluing the knee for each cathead. I had to add additional layer of veneer to knee and cathead to match the inner size.
I decided not to use underlay for decoration; it will bring the thickness to the decoration which might not quite be pleased for an eye. Decoration is first coloured in black using flat black colour and scraping the rest of it after drying period.
Then it was glued to the ship; again since there is a curve needed, the gluing process is a bit hard since decoration must be kept in place with fingers. Coudl not find the way to use some other holding method..
Then it is cathead' turn...
The brass pin was inserted and sanded...
The second cathead installed the same way..
And a layer of golden oak stain applied to all new parts.. i like this different colour layers achieved by adding an extra veneer layer...
Happy modelling..
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Dutchman reacted to PeterB010 in Hermoine La Fayette by PeterB010 - Artesania Latina - Scale 1:89
HI All,
@RussR; Thank you for the compliment on the hull. Choosing for the belaying pins created already a challenge on it's own. The plywood of the pin-rails is breaking during boring out the holes from 0.8 up to 1 mm. I decided the replace the fragile plywood for real wood and make the pin-rails for scrap. The drill and drill press i used wasn't what i expected from it so i had to find a solution for it, which i did and it's working perfectly for the moment.
@Sjors,
Yes I'm back from the hospital. The operation was successful so that I can now focus on the recovery. I shouldn't put too much strain on my upper body during the first 6 weeks, so I still have 3 more weeks to go. I have reduced my building activities to painting the figurehead and ornaments, which also does not go too smoothly. Despite sanding, degreasing and the use of a primer, the paint does not stick to the surface and damages quite easily.
I think I'm going to use a different kind of paint for the figurehead. I've started over 3 times and still it's not to my liking. (see the damage on the right ear) Because of this my motivation ebbs away a bit, if you know what I mean.
Kind regards
Peter
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Dutchman reacted to moreplovac in Phoenix by Moreplovac - FINISHED - Master Korabel - 1/72 - Russian Brigantine
The channels and sheer streaks have been installed... all channels were installed with pins to make bond a bit stronger. Some fittings is required for sheer streaks but nothing out of ordinary.
Happy modelling...
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Dutchman reacted to moreplovac in Phoenix by Moreplovac - FINISHED - Master Korabel - 1/72 - Russian Brigantine
I could not located info about scuppers in instructions but some videos are suggesting installing them as a good addition to the kit. So lets do it.
I did not have enough pipes in adequate diameter so ordered few of the Internet. But that does not stop me from making holes for scuppers. The challenge is to make all six holes at the same level. For that task i made a small template that was used to drill holes in the hull.
It is difficult to hold the template with one hand and drill holes with drill bit. This is the way o held the template in place..
Holes were drilled...
One went a bit lover so some fixing on the outer side will take place later.
All holes drilled and covered in golden oak stain.. they could even stay like this but with pipes it should look much nicer..
While waiting for pipes to arrive, i started to work on catheads. Since we added a layer of veneer for inside cathead knee, i need to expand cathead with the same size veneer.. The layer of veneer was applied to the catheads as well as knees that are mounted on the outer side...
Happy modelling..
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Dutchman reacted to moreplovac in Phoenix by Moreplovac - FINISHED - Master Korabel - 1/72 - Russian Brigantine
The rudder has been installed...
Then crossbar installation took place by first installing a part on the stem aligning it with a hole. The second part is double veneer and the first one i have installed as one piece (both veneer layers at once).
In the middle of gluing the top part dislocated and fall off.. The second part was done differently: first both layers were separated and installed individually. Way easier..
The knee has to be bevelled a bit and soaked in water so it can be easier bend while assembled..
Next, knees have to be filled a bit to be parallel but that is next step..
Happy modelling...
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Dutchman reacted to moreplovac in Phoenix by Moreplovac - FINISHED - Master Korabel - 1/72 - Russian Brigantine
Pins are all ready; produced in the same way as before.
Some will be used for hinges on the rudder and some will be used for hinges mounted on the ship itself. And there are few extras because these little buggers fly away on its own..
The hinges were glued to the rudder, and pins were cut to the 3mm length and pushed to the rudder. The holes and pins are identical size so pins needs to be pushed into rudder which does not require any glue...
All pins installed. The whole hinges assembly including pins will have to be painted since the blackening was removed during installation process on some rudder areas.
Ready to be mounted on the ship.
Happy modelling...
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Dutchman reacted to PeterB010 in Hermoine La Fayette by PeterB010 - Artesania Latina - Scale 1:89
I remembered that I had a drill stand in the basement including a Bosch drill that goes with it. Without any problems, the 0.3 mm fitted into the drill head. It's not perfect but it will do for the moment.
I placed the drill standard on the table, placed it wrong and before i knew what happened the standard fell on the Hermione. Me stupido! Fortunately the damage was not too bad afterwards and easy to restore.
Tomorrow I will start drilling the holes in the pin rails again.
Peter
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Dutchman reacted to moreplovac in Phoenix by Moreplovac - FINISHED - Master Korabel - 1/72 - Russian Brigantine
Work on rudder and hinges continues..
The rudder has been assembled and sanded to correct shape.
The hinges have been sanded lightly so they can be blackened easier.
Cut and assembled. The will also be soldered a bit to fill out a gap between parts.
A bit more sanding and soldering a pin as well.. then bath of blackening and ready to be put on rudder.
Happy modelling.
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Dutchman reacted to moreplovac in Phoenix by Moreplovac - FINISHED - Master Korabel - 1/72 - Russian Brigantine
The horseshoes were installed..
Then the work on rudder started. The rudder is built from two pieces, they have to be cleaned from laser burns, glued and sanded. Then the rudder covers (two pieces of vaneer) have to be glued on and rudder shaped in the way that the narrowed part is on the bottom..
While this is drying, i completed the installation of ship name decoration..
First, cut from the frame, sanded it all...
.. short bath in blackening solution and sanded it all..
The windows were protected with a piece of transparent tape before the whole hull was painted black.
Now, decor will go on by gluing it...
It will stay for now and dry..
Happy modelling.
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Dutchman reacted to moreplovac in Phoenix by Moreplovac - FINISHED - Master Korabel - 1/72 - Russian Brigantine
No worries about gratings, will attack them later.
Continue with skylight assembly. Since they are tiny, i decided to mount them on the piece of tape so it is easier to hold. Then glue them while on the tape..
Then to simulate hinges, i cut the small pieces of electrical tape and put them on, following with a layer of varnish to seal the tapes..
During work on skylight i noticed that companionway roof appears to be a bit out of scale.. Removed it, sanded it, added extra support in the middle and installed a new roof..
Now it its time to drill a holes for a pedestal in case i decide not to use a cradle... Two pilot holes are drilled.
Horseshoe were attacked next.
First a bath in blackened solution, rinse and dry...
Then glue to the ship..
The holes thru horseshoe are drilled to match the diameter of kit provided wire (0.5mm) i will use to simulate nails..
I rounded one end of the nail with a milling bit..
and the nail looks like this:
Sorry, not quite focused picture..
And mounted on the ship:
During this process i lost few nails (flew somewhere), but making extras is always a good thing.
Happy modelling.
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Dutchman reacted to moreplovac in Phoenix by Moreplovac - FINISHED - Master Korabel - 1/72 - Russian Brigantine
Lesson learned.... never blindly trust the instruction sheet.
Made gratings based on instruction dimensions, 8x5 holes as per picture below but actual dimension have to be bigger for at least two more holes, like 10x7..
Not sure was it because of Alvin Lee's guitar riffs or second glass of great french cognac, i finished all needed gratings but did not bother to check the fitting. During assembly phase noticed they are small... Dough..
I managed to make three new out of the remaining (and salvaged) gratings but it was not enough for the whole ship..
Now i have to either make my own or try to find somewhere gratings that fits the size...
In the meantime continue with other ship parts...
Happy modelling..
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