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Jackson7
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The second plank of the second layer is now on! Thanks to @harlequin for some excellent advice. Sticking the tacks into the plank above and below the one I was gluing worked like a charm. I guess "tacking" is useful even when you don't yet have the wind in your sails. Of course, the second plank on the outer layer just has to be more confusing. According to the instructions, it needs to be 1.5. mm by 5 mm lime, but the drawing seems to suggest a thinness that seems to imply it's turned sideways. If any previous Greyhound builders know what the kit actually means, I'd be fascinated to know.
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After a long time planning, I began the second layer of planking. This time, the technical part came from attempting to glue the board to the side of the ship without leaving nail marks. For most of its length, office clips were enough, but by the end, the curve and the height of the highest rail were too much. To overcome this problem, I put bent nails into the ship above and below the board I was gluing to hold it in place. This plan worked, but I'm not sure if it will continue to work as I plank downward. Or upward. I hope that things get easier after the first plank.
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That's an amazing-looking ship Tim! Those details really make it shine. The deck planks look particularly nice
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At this point, I have three quandaries. First, either the poop deck or the quarter deck are somewhat slanted. I'm not sure how to ascertain which one is off, or how to fix them. Second, I'm not sure how to proceed with the outer hull layer. The walnut planking seems more resistant to bending, and I'm not sure I want to use my obtrusive but effective nails on that delightfully beautiful wood. Third, the bow looks somewhat uneven, but I'm not sure how much more sanding it can take. At the present, I'm taking a break to contemplate these issues. If any of y'all have advice, I'd be glad to hear it.
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Step Two of the attempted ship rescue was sanding. Tons of sanding. 12 hours or more of sanding. First, I tried to even out the curve toward the back of the ship. I think I mostly succeeded. I also realized that the weak metal in the gun ports could be sanded down. They're now even with the rest of the ship and ready to be planked over by the second layer. Finally, I sanded the bow of the ship until it was all even. Although I completely lost one of the upper planks at one point, everything now smoothly fits together. There used to be several planks that stuck out.
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Here's Step One of my bold attempt to save the ship. First, I cut along the bottom with a razor until the whole plank was straight and level. I also took a razor to the bow to even out the planking on both sides. It seems to work well.
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The planking is now complete. Obviously, the bottom plank is bent way out of shape. The stern planking fits together smoothly, while the bow has more than its fair share of trouble. The poorly-cast cannon ports unnaturally bulge from the hull. The hull itself bends in then out again at the transition from middle to stern. At this point, fixing it all will be a piece of work.
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At this point, I'm almost done with the planks. I have a far better grasp of how to put them on. When I'm not wishing this layer was better, I'm thanking God that there's still another layer to put on.
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With the edition of Long John Sliver, I continued planking down. By this point, bending a plank in three dimensions at once had rendered the old boil'n'bend method obsolete. I now boil and bend all planks directly onto the hull with nails. Then I remove the nails, add glue, put the nails back, and remove them when the glue dries. The results leave some scarring, but a tight fit. The biggest problem now is the curvature of the aft part of the ship. Looking back, I probably should have padded the fourth and fifth rib from the stern, but it's too late. I blame (All Together Now) High School Me.
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Here's where things get interesting. I realized while planking downward that although the hull is flat at the bottom, the planks are curved. Even if I got them perfectly straight, it would leave a space. To fix this problem, I carefully measured a sliver of wood to fill the space and correct the issue. It worked surprisingly well.
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With the exception of, well, everything above the main deck, things have gone fairly well. I'm learning here how to file planks down so they fit, as well as how to fit them closely to each other. Disconcertingly, the port side is slightly further forward than the starboard side. But that's a problem that I'll once again offload to Future Me. The stern plans now fit neatly into their little niche.
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As can be seen, my skill at bending planks onto the front has improved. I also sanded the ribs on the inside of the front to get a better fit. Of course, this ended up having its own negative impacts too. The top of the hull in front now bulges out several millimeters from the bottom. Once again, I blame High School Me. In the pictures below, you can see the stern starting to take shape well. It's probably the best part of the vessel.
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Note the general clunkiness of the hull area. This resulted from a lack of sufficient sanding to the ribs and a lack of good plank bending technique. As usual, I blame High School Me.
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Here's the first few planks of the first layer. I stuck them to the hull with a boil-bend-dry method to get the curve. After applying glue, I nail them in to hold them in place. When the glue dries, I pull the nails out. Since this picture, I've graduated to boiling them and curving them directly to the hull with nails, then gluing them later. If there are any better methods, I'd be glad to get advice on them.
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As can be seen, I haven't gotten the frames down to a science. Although they're sanded so planks can smoothly glide up the hull, they're not expanded to form a smooth contour. Note the cracks and incorrect bend on the first few pieces of wood. It comes back to haunt me later. I think the keel piece is straight, but I can't swear to it.
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Hello everyone, A little background. I got this HMS Greyhound from my parents when I was in high school. At the time, I knew little what I was doing and less how long it would take. It didn't help to learn that whoever designed the kit seemed to be a few cannons short of a broadside when it came to plan drawing. Daunted by these difficulties, I did only the first few steps in putting together the hull, sanding it, and placing the first planks before I paused the project. Then I forgot about it for eight years. When I got back to it, my skills were about the same but my patience and will to persevere were far higher. I offer my thanks to the people who answered my questions on this site back then. My apologies for forgetting about y'all for about a decade. The bad news is that High School Me had made a few mistakes. Well, many mistakes. Mistakes that involved glue and delicate wood and couldn't be fixed. But with the right amount of planking, sanding, and perseverance, they could hopefully be hidden. Thus began my covert Corel corrections. To begin, here's the earliest set of photos I can find of the model. The upside down one resists all editing.
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Thanks so much. I have to agree with everyone that the building plans are very vague. Good luck on your build. I can't wait to see it get started.
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Hey, I'm an amateur model ship builder working on this model, and I've been wondering whether part 18 should be cut from another plank, or if it is a separate individual part. Could you clarify this for me?
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