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rwiederrich got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper
Just a quick pic of the ship coming along.
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rwiederrich got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper
Next, I had to finish up running the sail control lines down through the top fairleads and down to their pins.
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rwiederrich got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper
Thanks everyone.
I spent some time finishing up the fairleads...
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rwiederrich got a reaction from Vladimir_Wairoa in Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper
I toned down the light a bit so you can see the top fairleads better.
Things are progressing..
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rwiederrich got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper
Now on to running some of the sail control lines down through the top fairleads and to the shroud fairleads.
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rwiederrich got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper
Finished up both sides and the futtock ratlines..
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rwiederrich got a reaction from Bob Cleek in Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper
Spent a bit of time on the ratlines..here is one side finished.
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rwiederrich got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper
I tend to agree, however, my point was the array caused by yards swinging about under a tack. I used this image to demonstrate what happens when every yard on a mast must shift in order to catch the wind. This image is what I had to demonstrate the principle.
Thanks for pointing out the specifics of the movement. Your observation demonstrates how orchestrated the movement of the yards/sails was and how every purpose could be recognized.
The question brought up originally about yard placement in relations to what I was trying to accomplish, I feel, was answered satisfactorily...solely based on historical evidence that Clipper ship masters would indeed extend the proper use of sails to achieve their ultimate goal of speed and to set a good sailing record. Clipper captains were known for PUSHING/DRIVING their ships and crews to the very brink of catastrophe.
I think 12 to 20 degrees is ample pitch for my sails to exhibit their prowess and still expose enough rigging detail.
The only folks who will ever see it will be family and friends, and myself. Scrutiny is low. Cept for now, while under my MSW friends all seeing eyes.
Rob(Thanks for the fine comments and many likes everyone)
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rwiederrich got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper
IT would be the house.......
When I am focused on adding as much detail as I can....it becomes almost second nature to *go for it* and add as much as possible.
One thing one needs to keep in mind when identifying sail requirements for any particular wind speed. You are correct in the stun sails were made of much lighter material then storm sails and were generally employed in light breezes...to gain as much momentum as could be gained.
But the little known fact is that many clipper captains were notorious for DRIVING their ships in all manner of weather and if they felt they could gain another knot by keeping the stun sails aloft while running before the wind...they would...and not even blink an eye doing so.
Some captains would leave they sky sails set the entire voyage...even while rounding the horn(Dangerous stuff).
Thanks for the fine compliment and comment.
Rob
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rwiederrich got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper
Yes...I would assume to fully use the stun'sles ...and to prevent them from plunging into the waves as the vessel heals to one side...you would require to be running before the wind.
I've not yet seen a model rigged where she was tacking her yards...where they are aiming in all directions shifting from one tack to the next. I'm sure it looked messy and would not be an example one would want to display.
Note the painting.
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rwiederrich got a reaction from Vladimir_Wairoa in Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper
Over the years of building clippers(before I decided to form my new technique of single mast building), I openly dreaded the task of rigging 66 to 72 deadeye shroud combos....couples with the one million ratlines that were required(sarcasm injected).
Add the many other very repetitious tasks...and 5 years later(If you're fortunate), you are half way done.
Repetition can be a project killer for some.....I just hope I retain most of my dark hair when this is all said and done.
Rob
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rwiederrich got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper
Thanks for noticing. The yards are braced at 12deg...The reason was if I had braced them further I would in essence block the view of either the front or aft of the sail...hiding lots of rigging work. The main mast yards will be braced at slightly greater degree and the mizzen even further.
I did wrestle with how much angle I would brace the yards....like a typical painting with full face exposure of the sails...either port or starboard. Either way, portions of the rigging detail would not be in view. I opted for a middle approach. Running before the wind was not unheard of while setting your tack.
Capturing the curl of leading footer edge of the sails was the hardest thing to tackle...It looks authentic as much as I can possibly make it.
Here is a contemporary example and a painting.
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rwiederrich got a reaction from Bob Cleek in Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper
Riight!
I'm not finished installing the clew lines for the lower topsail and the lifts for the main yard....not to mention the main sail and all its control rigging.
Once done this will nearly finish off the fore mast mini project. I might add the forestay...but my focus is proceeding to the main mast....off model.
Generally I add all the details for each step...for example...once a line is belayed at the rail...I'll add the coiled rope to it as well..to finish off that mini project. I left off last night beginning to add the rope coils to the control lines coming through the fairleads to the rail. Still have 6 to go.
I used to put off adding rope coils to the end...but that got monotonous. So like many monotonous tasks...I prefer to break them up by following a step through to its completion....and if that means stopping a process to go to another....that is what I do. Makes for less tedium for me anyway. Can anyone say...RATLINES... And this new technique I'm fiddling with provides the relief of that tedium and produces satisfying results in a step by step format.
When breaking the entirety of the build down into smaller and smaller mini projects....it makes the entire project feel as if it is moving along.....no...Clipping, along much faster....and seeing each project get done is very rewarding, indeed.
Thanks for your fine comments and everyone's likes....
Rob
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rwiederrich got a reaction from Bob Cleek in Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper
Worked for a bit today finishing up adding the lower topsail.
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rwiederrich got a reaction from Bob Legge in Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper
Yes...I would assume to fully use the stun'sles ...and to prevent them from plunging into the waves as the vessel heals to one side...you would require to be running before the wind.
I've not yet seen a model rigged where she was tacking her yards...where they are aiming in all directions shifting from one tack to the next. I'm sure it looked messy and would not be an example one would want to display.
Note the painting.
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rwiederrich got a reaction from Bob Legge in Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper
Thanks for noticing. The yards are braced at 12deg...The reason was if I had braced them further I would in essence block the view of either the front or aft of the sail...hiding lots of rigging work. The main mast yards will be braced at slightly greater degree and the mizzen even further.
I did wrestle with how much angle I would brace the yards....like a typical painting with full face exposure of the sails...either port or starboard. Either way, portions of the rigging detail would not be in view. I opted for a middle approach. Running before the wind was not unheard of while setting your tack.
Capturing the curl of leading footer edge of the sails was the hardest thing to tackle...It looks authentic as much as I can possibly make it.
Here is a contemporary example and a painting.
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rwiederrich got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper
Riight!
I'm not finished installing the clew lines for the lower topsail and the lifts for the main yard....not to mention the main sail and all its control rigging.
Once done this will nearly finish off the fore mast mini project. I might add the forestay...but my focus is proceeding to the main mast....off model.
Generally I add all the details for each step...for example...once a line is belayed at the rail...I'll add the coiled rope to it as well..to finish off that mini project. I left off last night beginning to add the rope coils to the control lines coming through the fairleads to the rail. Still have 6 to go.
I used to put off adding rope coils to the end...but that got monotonous. So like many monotonous tasks...I prefer to break them up by following a step through to its completion....and if that means stopping a process to go to another....that is what I do. Makes for less tedium for me anyway. Can anyone say...RATLINES... And this new technique I'm fiddling with provides the relief of that tedium and produces satisfying results in a step by step format.
When breaking the entirety of the build down into smaller and smaller mini projects....it makes the entire project feel as if it is moving along.....no...Clipping, along much faster....and seeing each project get done is very rewarding, indeed.
Thanks for your fine comments and everyone's likes....
Rob
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rwiederrich got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper
Worked for a bit today finishing up adding the lower topsail.
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rwiederrich got a reaction from Bob Legge in Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper
Worked for a bit today finishing up adding the lower topsail.
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rwiederrich got a reaction from mtaylor in Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper
IT would be the house.......
When I am focused on adding as much detail as I can....it becomes almost second nature to *go for it* and add as much as possible.
One thing one needs to keep in mind when identifying sail requirements for any particular wind speed. You are correct in the stun sails were made of much lighter material then storm sails and were generally employed in light breezes...to gain as much momentum as could be gained.
But the little known fact is that many clipper captains were notorious for DRIVING their ships in all manner of weather and if they felt they could gain another knot by keeping the stun sails aloft while running before the wind...they would...and not even blink an eye doing so.
Some captains would leave they sky sails set the entire voyage...even while rounding the horn(Dangerous stuff).
Thanks for the fine compliment and comment.
Rob
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rwiederrich got a reaction from mtaylor in Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper
Thanks for noticing. The yards are braced at 12deg...The reason was if I had braced them further I would in essence block the view of either the front or aft of the sail...hiding lots of rigging work. The main mast yards will be braced at slightly greater degree and the mizzen even further.
I did wrestle with how much angle I would brace the yards....like a typical painting with full face exposure of the sails...either port or starboard. Either way, portions of the rigging detail would not be in view. I opted for a middle approach. Running before the wind was not unheard of while setting your tack.
Capturing the curl of leading footer edge of the sails was the hardest thing to tackle...It looks authentic as much as I can possibly make it.
Here is a contemporary example and a painting.
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rwiederrich got a reaction from hexnut in Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper
Worked for a bit today finishing up adding the lower topsail.
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rwiederrich got a reaction from mtaylor in Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper
Worked for a bit today finishing up adding the lower topsail.
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rwiederrich got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper
Next as I progressed it was clear the main fore yard needed to be rigged...so on went the foot ropes and I added the sheets.
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rwiederrich got a reaction from hexnut in Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper
Just a quick pic of the ship coming along.