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the other net rig is done........once the center lift was attached,  the two other support chains were fastened in place.
 

 
 
....and then they were attached.   for some reason,  I had a little trouble lining them up.   when I did the first one,  I drilled the holes at that point and fitted the eye bolts.   but I had already measured this one out,  so I did 'em beforehand.   
 

 
I couldn't get the beads out of my mind........I knew we were going to Wal-Mart.   they had a package of assorted beads,  so now I have what I need.   painting to follow.........and hopefully the nets  
 
 
thanks for look'in in.

Hi Denis
 
I must admit that you've done an excellent job on shaping those chains so naturally.  They look very realistic.  A few strands of seaweed hanging off them, wouldn't go astray either .
 
All in all, just lovely.
 
Cheers
 
Patrick

thanks to all of the kind comments and those who hit the like button    the past couple of weeks had me with the brakes on.........it feels good to be back at the table      I didn't get much done today either......spent the day trying to catch up on all the logs I follow  {I'm almost caught up now}.    I thought I had the right size beads........stinks that I was wrong.   it holds me back till I can get the correct size.   no matter........there are other things  
 
thanks Michael.........just a newbie idea....I think it was back in 2010.   as a matter of fact,  I was looking through the Cux file,  to see how I connected the buoy line,   when I saw this picture:
 

 
it also orients the bar and end caps better,  as seen here.  I never really gave it much thought,  concerning the flat sections of the end caps........rub bars,  in the event that it scraped along the hull.   I don't even have those oval rings any more.....just some big ones,  that I may never use.  I'm glad I didn't toss the tool out  
 
hey there Tom..........are you situated in the blizzard zone?   we had heard that parts of Mass was under a blizzard warning.  I tried to clear some of the snow........but the wind was blow'in so bad....I said the heck with it!  we have well over 12 inches here.......and the drifts are worse!     the picture above show them unpainted.....when these two that I'm making now are painted,  they will look even better.  thanks for the good word and look'in in  
 
thanks Pat!    Yea I know.......I say it myself  "any progress is good progress."      I just glad I have a habit of keeping all of the instruction sheets.   not that I couldn't remember how I made them.......but they made the task easier.   thanks for the good word my friend   

Always fun to see what you are fabricating next Denis, the chain set up looks good. interesting how we all go about achieving a complex task. I would have worked with the chain flat on the table But I can see that by doing it the way you have, there is the natural effect of gravity to give just the right amount of sag to the chain, which would be impossible to achieve on the flat.
 
Michael

I wish I had more progress to show,  but I move and swing too much.   I also later found out that the beads I bought are the wrong size......further going through my inventory again........fruitless.   so, I will have to bring one with me,  to insure that I have the right ones.  to used the ones I got,  they would be too out of scale.  that won't happen today......we're in the grips of a heavy snow storm  {and I just got done picking up from a smaller one the other day}.
 
I did get the first rig completed........paint is the next step.
 

 
I also changed the arrangement of the center lift ring.........using a slightly larger one as well.   it gives better detail of how the chains are tied together.   
 

 
so now,  it's the other rig's turn........I made sure to do the same with it's center lift ring.   not pictured here,  is the drilling of the three eye bolt holes in the bar,  and filling them with an eye bolt.   these will set a while to dry.....something I learned while assembling the first one.
 

 
from here.......I decided to get into a mental battle with another build.    this feeble bit of progress was a refreshing return to the table  

hello Jud.......no need for you to come all that way........just tell my admiral.....she'd be glad to do it           she reminds me of that comic piece I saw one time,  where she told the patient that they were all out of enemas......so,  she'd have to kick the sh__ out of 'em!   yea,  I was in tough shape for the last few days.......thanks,  I am feeling better     I've been trying to catch up again here on the site,  which I was doing Tuesday,  when I got to the point where I couldn't do it any longer.   I didn't even turn on my computer for the past couple of days.   I was going to tinker with the trawler a little,  but it seems I've spent the better of my time here.   I took tomorrow off,  so perhaps I can make up for lost time....maybe even on the Thermopylae too.
 
I'm glad your still following along.....us two wet rags gotta stick together,  don'tcha know  

I wager everyone that's built an extended frame model has had this little joke creep into their head.

Thanks for the comments, the "likes" and just looking in...  
 
At last, a real update as life (the Admiral's health) got in the way.  The frame extensions have been removed and she's starting to look more like a frigate.   I still need to sand them down to the sheer strake but I'll be doing that when I need a break from the gundeck work.
 
Here's the pictures...  as always, a click on them will open them to full size (or what constitutes full size on MSW).  The last two are more of a reference shot for examining things on my part but I thought I'd toss them in anyway.  Sorry about the sawdust and mess.....
 

Thanks for the comments and the "likes".
 
Life and other things continues to take my shipyard time.....   
So.. some replies first, update next.
 
Eric,
I was tech writer for 25 years in a previous life (the one before I went into IT work)...  I still get caught on such stuff.
 
 
I did some manuals in my previous life for equipment used by the Brits.  I had to learn a whole new language for them.  I believe (and am probably wrong) that it was Winston Churchill who said "We're two countries, separated by a common language".  
 
 
After sorting out how the deck was planked by referencing other French frigates as much as I could, used the cross-section drawing as my baseline.  Licorne is definitely an oddball in this regard.  The references show the traditional planking that follows the waterway and tapers.  Some use nibbing at the bow, some use hook scarfs.  Others... nada.  Towards the stern... there's where I ran into headaches.  Some use drop planks, some don't.  Some have parquet floors in the great cabin.  Some don't.  
 
So.. decision time. I went with the spirit of the beast. No drop planks, no scarfs or nibbing at the bow,  There's two wide planks thicker than the rest at the waterway.. much like binding strakes.  Then theres 3 stakes of "normal planks", a very wide binding strake, and 5 "normal planks.  None of the works showed hook scarfs in the binding strakes like the English used.. So.. I'm going with what I have.
 
I began by doing a reference drawing (actually reworking what I had done already) with actual dimensions to account for errors in building with respect to width of the area to be planked and beam placement.  I then added tic marks along the centerline of each beam for the plankwidth starting at the 0 station line (dead flat, widest point) and scaled them to both the stern and the bow.  Next came drawing in the planks.   The cutting part was the easy part and am now installing the aft planking first.
 
The first picture shows the result of this work in the great cabin aft of the mizzen mast.  The drawings and cuttings were tweaked to account for the kerf of the laser.  Also, the planking that showing is actually the bottom side of the sheet.  Given the way the kerf is, this provided a natural beveling.  I lightly sanded the char but didn't remove all of it as a) there's little glue used on the edge of the plank and   it gives a nice (to my eye) simulation of caulking. There's also another plank laying on the beams ready for installation.
 

 
The second photo merely shows the planks cut and still held in place in the sheet stock.  These planks are from where the existing planking is to the waterway.  I left a bit of extra meat on the outside plank goes by the waterway for fitting.
 

 
I'm having a lot of fun with this once I figure out what needs to be done.  The "how" is just as important as the "what" in this case.  Frustrating at times, but very satisfying when it comes together.
 
As always, feel free to point out errors, misadventures, etc.  This is pretty much virgin territory for me...

Thanks for looking in.   So far, so good on planking.
 
 
 
This Deathstar II, Rev2.   I think.  Ah.. just call it Deathstar III.  I've got one pesky setting that won't stay in place on a mirror adjustment.  Considering my options....  Locktite, epoxy, or weld it.   
 
 
Jason, 
 
Here's a couple of screen shots that might help.
 
The first is complete drawing (as of today) with all the layers of which there are 10.  I started with a scanned image of the deck, then added reference lines (red and blue).  Then each part of the deck got it's own layer so I could lock it and turn it on or off as needed.
 
The red tick marks off the vertical lines is where the planks cross the beams (actual measurements).  I started in the center and worked both ways by copy/pasting the original set of marks and then adjusting the size to fit the space (scaled them).  So far, so good.  It seems to be working.    This is a computer variation of the planking fan that Chuck uses in his planking methods.
 

 
 
This shot is of the cutting layers for the plankings....  
 

 
Any questions, feel free to ask.

Yes, Bob! Sometimes it need to me for a little distraction
 

 

 

 

 

 
Thank you, Nils!
I also with anxiously and look forward this moment

Many thanks, Kees!
 
I still hope that I will can shove it in the bottle
 

 
Best Regards!
Igor.

"Work went very slowly", he says.  From hull to finished ship, that's all.  well done.
 
Bob

A-ha-ha, Patrick!
"LENA" is one of the biggest of my SIBs, which I built

Hi, Patrick!
I am glad to hear you again!
Many thanks!
I would say that this model is a good school for me. I was able to check out a lot of my ideas, technical solutions and technologies. Of course, I could not avoid some mistakes, but I hope that the experience of this project will allow me to avoid them in the future.
 
So, we go ahead
I then installed the davits complete with the lifeboats and began compiling the assembly diagrams and marking of the ends of the rigging
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Installation of the foremast has not created any problems
 

Hey Igor
 
At last!  I've been waiting patiently and now, with these updates, I'm not disappointed!
 
Definitely your best model yet. I'm really loving all the fine details that you're adding.
 
Beautiful stuff!
 
Cheers
 
Patrick

And, finally, I was able to proceed with the final assembly at the stand.
Assembling was carried out in the same order in which it will be made later in the bottle.
At this stage I revealed some mistakes that are likely to affect the assembly in the bottle, but ... something to alter it's too late Although, of course, I will try to fix some of them. For example, I'm going again attach ladder to the bridge and I will to lift up the lifeboats.
 
So, first I installed the rear mast, the engine room and the bridge.
 

 

 

Update....
 
outcome of the 25 mm hole drilling trials...
 
today I had a pleasant surprise with the fresh received new drilling crown. I had to try it out straight away, and am very pleased with the results....
 
Nils
 

 
good quality tool
 
 

 
the center drill with the (threaded9 adapter can take up diam 14 to 30 mm, drill crowns
 
 

 
cut at 10° angle, no problem with the center drill function
 
 

 
smooth hole sides, no breaking out at surfaces

Update...
 
stuctures on the boats deck, and always considering the deck curvature over the width
 
Nils
 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

Hi Rob, Patrick and Greg,
 
.... sorry, forgot to ad the enclosed pics with the last post...
 
Nils
 

 
freehand drill cut, works out quite rough !!
 
 

 
25 mm wooden dowel from broom-bar

Update....
 
handrail for deck housing and halfround light shaft dome windows...
 
Nils
 

 
 

small update....
 
this little structure sits up on the boats deck between 2 nd. and 3 rd. funnel.
This is the position where the large 1 st class dining lounge is situated over several decks across the whole width of the ship, because here no stackshafts interfere with the dining area.
The half round stucture will be modeled to the light dome of the dining lounge comprising about 30 single little "glassed" frames
 
Nils
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

Update.....
 
Build log part 52
 
today is the day where the forward boats deck will be permanently glued on. Between brass frame and deck I use CA and  white wood glue between the lower deckhousings and the boatsdeck.
On this part I did not forget to place the connection holding points for the funnel stays. On the lower bridge its a bit tricky to get the convex deck curvature correct and adjusted to the forseen places of the nav light towers, here also used CA, hope its strong enough...
 
Also today a last chance to have a look into the inside of this liner, as it is now closed for ever after. Like on all my ships I put a short note (description, year of build, etc . ) into the hull before closing the last opening.
 
Nils
 

 
little red tags mark the places for putting the clamps on (whist glueing)
 
 

 
last look at the inside of the hull
 
 

 
below the deck to go on....
 
 

 
the nav light towers are the forward "anchoring points" for the boats deck
 
 

 
forecastle deck
 
 

 
 

 
aft deck
 
 

 
deck glued on and clamped down
 
 

 
the boss with the screw is just to curve down the lower bridge wings during glue curing
 
 

 

Thank you very much Ed,
for your nice compliment.....
 
Also thanks to all the "likes"
 
here is an Update :
 
I was busy and I`m beginning with the 4 stacks, they will be made from 26 x 1,5 mm alumimium tube. But first the rings for taking up the upper funnel stay fastening points have to be made. They will slip on, 3 per stack, and secured with low viscosity CA (aluminium / Brass connection), hopefuly not generated electro chemical corrusion afterwards...
The rings are made from 2 x 1 mm half-round brass profile, guess the included pics are self explaining......
 
Nils
 

 
the profile is heated and quick-quenched under cold water, to get that anealed condition frozen in
 
 

 
to compensate that remaining spring-back effect, the coiling is rolled with a thinner dummy tube
 
 

 
the loop is cut to overlap for about 4 mm (canfer and bevel ends of soldering area)
 
 

 
 

 
the ring is soldered together and slipped on to the original funnel tube for drilling the "stay pass through" holes. The holes arrangement is per pattern (8 holes per ring)
 
 

 
 

 
the final ring drilling is done on a dummy wooden dowel
   
 

 
just ran out of half-round brass profile....
 
 

 
a bit tricky to drill that half-round profile from the convex side, lucky, no scap so far...
 
 

 
status overview...., upper bridge wheelhouse with nav- and charts room is on...