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Thanks, Ronald, for your like and your advice. The excellence of your planking job is certainly a testament to the efficacy of your method. I do have a plank nipper which I will try out. I will see how much the squeezing action required aggravates the arthritis in my hands. I definitely should look up the "Chuck Method" for edge bending to see how that is done, as there is likely to be a lot of edge bending if my experience with the first layer is an indication of what the second layer will require. To be sure, soaking will greatly increase the time required to complete the job, but I am in no hurry.
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In addition to the planking patterns shown above, two strakes of pre-cut pear planks are provided to get the modeler started on the remaining hull planking: These are installed just below the planking patterns. They were precisely cut and fit perfectly. Even the forward ends butted up against the stem precisely, the angle being exactly right. I recommend beveling this end to get an even better fit. Now to do the rest of the second planking. The instructions say that it can be done with a nipper without soaking. That is obviously true of the prototype build illustrated in the instructions, but it seems to me that on my build, if the edge bending required is anything like it was on the first layer, I will need to soak these planks. I did that with the forward planks shown above, and found that pear is a dream to work with when soaked. Of course, I allowed ample time for them to dry out before installing them. This may mean it will take more time to do the job, but I am in no hurry. I will work slowly and carefully, and hopefully, I will end up with a reasonably presentable hull.
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These are the outer planking patterns supplied in the kit: They detail the planking above the wales. After having been soaked in hot water for an hour, then bent and clamped to the hull and left to dry out for 24 hours, they are glued to the hull: Looking ahead in the instruction manual, I see that the horizontal seams will be masked by the waist rail, and the vertical seam will be masked at the stern by the quarter galleries, and at the waist by one of the fenders.
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Time to glue on the outer patterns for the prow, keel, and stern post. To insure proper alignment, locator pegs are provided which fit into the little slots you see in these patterns, and into the corresponding slots in the main patterns. To get the closest color match with the outer pattern, I filed the char off the ends of these pegs. I thought that the closer that match is, the fewer coats of white paint will be needed to cover them. I also decided to simplify this process by gluing all the pegs into the outer patterns, making sure to remove any excess glue, then pressing the assembly face down on a clean flat surface to insure that the ends of the pegs are flush with the outer surface of the pattern. This enables me to handle the pattern and the pegs as a single unit and "plug" it into the keel when I assemble it, glue, and clamp it. It is so nice not to have any shift between the keel and the patterns as the clamps are applied! Those pegs are great! Once the glue has set it is just a matter of pressing the apposite pattern into place, allowing the protruding ends of the pegs to insert into their slots, gluing and clamping as before. The efficacy of the design, the precision of the laser cutting, and the quality of the materials made this a straightforward trouble free process. The pegs did protrude just a tad proud of the pattern surface, so I filed them down flush with the square end of one of my diamond files. It was just the right size to file down the end of the peg without disturbing the pattern surface. Here are the patterns glued in place: There are modelers on MSW who can cut out and assemble the various components of the stem knee with absolute precision. I am not one of them, so I appreciate the engraved detail of these patterns! There is the current state of play:
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The inner lower counter pattern has been soaked, taped to a cylindrical container, and allowed to dry, and is now glued in place: I believe I got the placement right. What looks like the ends of the counter patterns sticking out is really the bottom of the slot. The keel pattern fit very nicely into the slots. It was slightly warped, but the garboard strakes captured the tabs and held the pattern straight, so no problem. The prow pattern and sternpost pattern also slotted into place very well. Thanks to Chris's wonderful design, the prow pattern is quite strong once the glue set.
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I found that when I constructed the stern the oversized metal quarter gallery components forced me to sacrifice the aft most gun port on both sides, so I ended up with 30 guns on the gun deck instead of 32. I understand that a couple of long guns were installed as "shifting gunnades" on the forcastle at various times during Constitution's career. You might want to use the extra guns for that if you run into the same problem that I did. I used MS gun bulwarks carriage red for my model which I thought matched the color I saw on the real ship quite well.
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You may already be aware of this, but just in case - the rope sizes given in the BJ instruction manual are circumference, while the ones on most packages and spools of rope are diameter. I did not catch that, and as a result the rigging of the 24 pounders on my model are way out of scale. I ended up doing the math and writing the correct size into the instructions for all the lines.
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No, I have not abandoned the build. I am just a very slow worker. I finished laying the first layer of planks: I will post a similar set of shots when I have sanded down the protruding edges and humps, and filled in the dips and hollows. As I am not experienced at this, the funky fettlin' near the keel is not that surprising. It will not win any prizes for authenticity, but it should suffice as a base for the second planking, and it will not be seen.
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Installation of the decking sheets looks great. The sheets I had did not reach all the way to the stern, so I hid the seam between the two lengths under the Captain's inner cabin bulkhead. Concerning the assembly of the guns - you may already be aware of this, but just in case, the trunnions are not exactly midway between the top side and under side of the barrel, so the gun will sit lower or higher in the carriage depending on which way is up. I did not realize this until I had half of them done. Consequently, they align beautifully on the starboard side of my model, but not so well on the port side. My apologies if this info is superfluous.
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