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hi Patrick
tricky is probably the politest word I could use! hawse timbers are now complete...see next post.....and my hands ache from holding relatively small...for me,positively gigantic for you Patrick! , components in order to rasp and scrape into shape.
time for a rest......if it wasn't so grey an "orrrible" I could tell if the sun was over the yardarm yet......time for a livener......maybe a bit later on reflection!
cheers......mick

HI ALL
SECOND POST OF THE DAY..........BEEN A BUSY OLD MORNIN SO FAR
HAWSE FRAMES ARE NOW COMPLETE.
 
IVE INCLUDED PHOTOS WHICH I WILL UPLOAD IN ORDER....HOPEFULLY THEY WILL MAKE SOME SENSE OF THE SEQUENCE OF PRODUCTION.
 
I HAVE BEEN A BIT OF A MASOCHIST THIS MORNING AND MADE THESE ENTIRELY BY HAND WITH PLANES FRET SAW RASPS AND SOME LOVELY LITTLE CABINET SCRAPERS WHICH WERE JUST THE RIGHT SIZE.
ANYWAY PHOTOS ENCLOSED.
AS USUAL ALL COMMENTS CRITISMS ETC GRATEFULLY RECEIVED.
 
CHEERS....MICK

hi Christian
a project for the very near future.......ive ordered the cd of plans for the echo cross section as a taster first......a bit more practice making frames and components wont hurt before I commit to a full hull build of that scale.
cheers...mick

HI ALL
SECOND POST OF THE DAY..........BEEN A BUSY OLD MORNIN SO FAR
HAWSE FRAMES ARE NOW COMPLETE.
 
IVE INCLUDED PHOTOS WHICH I WILL UPLOAD IN ORDER....HOPEFULLY THEY WILL MAKE SOME SENSE OF THE SEQUENCE OF PRODUCTION.
 
I HAVE BEEN A BIT OF A MASOCHIST THIS MORNING AND MADE THESE ENTIRELY BY HAND WITH PLANES FRET SAW RASPS AND SOME LOVELY LITTLE CABINET SCRAPERS WHICH WERE JUST THE RIGHT SIZE.
ANYWAY PHOTOS ENCLOSED.
AS USUAL ALL COMMENTS CRITISMS ETC GRATEFULLY RECEIVED.
 
CHEERS....MICK

HI ALL
NOW THAT THE FORWARD CANT FRAMES ARE ALL IN ITS TIME TO START THE DREADED HAWSE PEICES.
 
THE LAMINATED BLOCKS FOR THESE WERE MADE UP PREVIOUSLY FROM SOME 1/8 INCH STOCK SOMEWHAT OVERSIZE MAINLY SO ID GOT SOMETHING TO HANG ON TO WHISLT I SHAPED THEM.
 
THE BLOCKS WERE SHAPED TO THE PLANVIEW OVER THER ENTIRE LENGTH FIRST.
 
A CARD STOCK PROFILE OF THE STEM REBATE...AFTER EDGE...WAS THEN MADE AND USED TO MARK OUT FOR THE FIRST SHAPING CUT WITH A JEWELLERS SAW. THE STEM PROFILE HAS BEEN TWEAKED WITH SOME RIFLER FILES UNTIL ITS ABOUT RIGHT....FINAL FINISHING WILL COME LATER WHEN THE HULL IS FAIRED.
 
THE ANGLE OF THE BLOCK MATCHES NICELY WITH THE ANGLE BETWEEN THE FORWARD FACE OF THE FINAL CANT FRAME AND THE STEM DEADWOOD SO HOPEFULLY IVE DONE SOMETHING RIGHT!!!!
 
THE NEXT PROFILE CUT WAS AGAINST THE FORWARD FACE OTF THE LAST CANT FRAME AGAIN WITH A JEWELLERS SAW AND FINISHED WITH RASPS.
 
SOME MORE SMOOTHING OF THE OUTSIDE FACES IS NEEDED AND SOME FINAL FETTLING OF THE EDGE THAT MATES UP WITH THE STEM REABTE.
 
THE NEXT AWKWARD BIT IS PROFILIG THE INSIDE FACE......AND THEN REPEATING FOR THE OTHER SIDE.
 
HOPE THIS ALL MAKES SENSE!!
 
PHOTOS ENCLOSED ALL COMMENTS MOST WELCOME.
 
CHEERS FOR NOW......MICK
 

HI ALL
NOW THAT THE FORWARD CANT FRAMES ARE ALL IN ITS TIME TO START THE DREADED HAWSE PEICES.
 
THE LAMINATED BLOCKS FOR THESE WERE MADE UP PREVIOUSLY FROM SOME 1/8 INCH STOCK SOMEWHAT OVERSIZE MAINLY SO ID GOT SOMETHING TO HANG ON TO WHISLT I SHAPED THEM.
 
THE BLOCKS WERE SHAPED TO THE PLANVIEW OVER THER ENTIRE LENGTH FIRST.
 
A CARD STOCK PROFILE OF THE STEM REBATE...AFTER EDGE...WAS THEN MADE AND USED TO MARK OUT FOR THE FIRST SHAPING CUT WITH A JEWELLERS SAW. THE STEM PROFILE HAS BEEN TWEAKED WITH SOME RIFLER FILES UNTIL ITS ABOUT RIGHT....FINAL FINISHING WILL COME LATER WHEN THE HULL IS FAIRED.
 
THE ANGLE OF THE BLOCK MATCHES NICELY WITH THE ANGLE BETWEEN THE FORWARD FACE OF THE FINAL CANT FRAME AND THE STEM DEADWOOD SO HOPEFULLY IVE DONE SOMETHING RIGHT!!!!
 
THE NEXT PROFILE CUT WAS AGAINST THE FORWARD FACE OTF THE LAST CANT FRAME AGAIN WITH A JEWELLERS SAW AND FINISHED WITH RASPS.
 
SOME MORE SMOOTHING OF THE OUTSIDE FACES IS NEEDED AND SOME FINAL FETTLING OF THE EDGE THAT MATES UP WITH THE STEM REABTE.
 
THE NEXT AWKWARD BIT IS PROFILIG THE INSIDE FACE......AND THEN REPEATING FOR THE OTHER SIDE.
 
HOPE THIS ALL MAKES SENSE!!
 
PHOTOS ENCLOSED ALL COMMENTS MOST WELCOME.
 
CHEERS FOR NOW......MICK
 

HI ALL
NOW THAT THE FORWARD CANT FRAMES ARE ALL IN ITS TIME TO START THE DREADED HAWSE PEICES.
 
THE LAMINATED BLOCKS FOR THESE WERE MADE UP PREVIOUSLY FROM SOME 1/8 INCH STOCK SOMEWHAT OVERSIZE MAINLY SO ID GOT SOMETHING TO HANG ON TO WHISLT I SHAPED THEM.
 
THE BLOCKS WERE SHAPED TO THE PLANVIEW OVER THER ENTIRE LENGTH FIRST.
 
A CARD STOCK PROFILE OF THE STEM REBATE...AFTER EDGE...WAS THEN MADE AND USED TO MARK OUT FOR THE FIRST SHAPING CUT WITH A JEWELLERS SAW. THE STEM PROFILE HAS BEEN TWEAKED WITH SOME RIFLER FILES UNTIL ITS ABOUT RIGHT....FINAL FINISHING WILL COME LATER WHEN THE HULL IS FAIRED.
 
THE ANGLE OF THE BLOCK MATCHES NICELY WITH THE ANGLE BETWEEN THE FORWARD FACE OF THE FINAL CANT FRAME AND THE STEM DEADWOOD SO HOPEFULLY IVE DONE SOMETHING RIGHT!!!!
 
THE NEXT PROFILE CUT WAS AGAINST THE FORWARD FACE OTF THE LAST CANT FRAME AGAIN WITH A JEWELLERS SAW AND FINISHED WITH RASPS.
 
SOME MORE SMOOTHING OF THE OUTSIDE FACES IS NEEDED AND SOME FINAL FETTLING OF THE EDGE THAT MATES UP WITH THE STEM REABTE.
 
THE NEXT AWKWARD BIT IS PROFILIG THE INSIDE FACE......AND THEN REPEATING FOR THE OTHER SIDE.
 
HOPE THIS ALL MAKES SENSE!!
 
PHOTOS ENCLOSED ALL COMMENTS MOST WELCOME.
 
CHEERS FOR NOW......MICK
 

HI ALL
NEW JIGS ARE IN USE......LAST PAIR OF CANTS DUE TO BE FITTED THIS EVENING AND THEN WE MOVE ON TO THE HAWSE PIECES.
 
BACK TO WORK FOR THE NEXT FOUR NIGHTS SO NO MORE UPDATES FOR A WHILE!
 
PHOTOS ENCLOSED
 
CHEERS.....MICK

HI ALL
WORK ON THE CANT FRAMES CONTINUES......NEXT PAIR HAVE BEEN FITTED.
 
THE ACRYLIC JIGS HAVE HAD A LINE SCRIBED ACROSS AT THE LWL LEVEL....HOPE THIS SHOWS IN THE PHOTOS.
 
THE NEXT TWO PAIRS OF CANT FRAMES WILL HAVE TO BE SUPPORTED BY A FRESH PAIR OF JIGS.......THIS AFTERNOONS JOB WHILST THE GLUES SETTING......UNFORTUNATELY DESPITE ALANS SUGGESTION TURNING THE CURRENT JIGS AROUND MEANS I CANT GET MY CLAMPS IN PLACE.
 
NOT A MAJOR PROBLEM THE BYRNES SAW WILL MAKE SHORT WORK OF MAKING A NEW SET......I SHOULD OF GIVEN MUCH MORE THOUGHT TO THESE JIGS IN THE FIRST PLACE........FILE THAT IN THE MEMORY BANKS FOR THE NEXT BUILD!
 
ANYWAY PHOTOS ENCLOSED FOR YOUR DELICTATION.
 
CHEERS.....MICK

hi christian
your english is fine and perfectly understandable.......i wish my schoolboy german was up to the same standard!
i do have the seawatch practicum and plans for swan class (hms echo ) and also for hms euryalus.....these are high on my priority list for p.o.f construction.
there are several monographs from jean boudroit at ancre which are also clamouring for my attention
i think it will eventually be a case of stuff the lack of space im going to build them anyway and i will worry about where to put them at a later date!
lifes to short to spend too much time cogitating.....i need too build!!!!!
cheeers for now.....mick

hi christian
your english is fine and perfectly understandable.......i wish my schoolboy german was up to the same standard!
i do have the seawatch practicum and plans for swan class (hms echo ) and also for hms euryalus.....these are high on my priority list for p.o.f construction.
there are several monographs from jean boudroit at ancre which are also clamouring for my attention
i think it will eventually be a case of stuff the lack of space im going to build them anyway and i will worry about where to put them at a later date!
lifes to short to spend too much time cogitating.....i need too build!!!!!
cheeers for now.....mick

hi bob
1/48 would have been cool! trouble is youd need a mansion to display it! id love to do a first or 2nd rate in 1/48 but just dont have the space.
look forward to following your build log......best of luck with the build.
cheers....mick

hi bob
the acrylic was a bit of lateral thinking...I too was having trouble lining up my marks....the original ply jigs were too "clunky"......I will be sticking too acrylic in future!
look forward to your build of edt s extreme clipper....1/96 or 1/72 scale?
great thing about this forum is theres so many highly skilled guys and gals on here its the best resource on the planet!
 
cheers....mick

hi bob
1/48 would have been cool! trouble is youd need a mansion to display it! id love to do a first or 2nd rate in 1/48 but just dont have the space.
look forward to following your build log......best of luck with the build.
cheers....mick

hi bob
1/48 would have been cool! trouble is youd need a mansion to display it! id love to do a first or 2nd rate in 1/48 but just dont have the space.
look forward to following your build log......best of luck with the build.
cheers....mick

hi bob
1/48 would have been cool! trouble is youd need a mansion to display it! id love to do a first or 2nd rate in 1/48 but just dont have the space.
look forward to following your build log......best of luck with the build.
cheers....mick

WASHINGTON GALLEY PART 5
 
HI ALL
 
TODAYS EFFORTS WERE MAINLY CONCERNED WITH THE PRODUCTION OF THE AFT CANT FRAME (N0 22).
ALL PARTS WERE CUT OUT TO THEIR RESPECTIVE LINES AS INDICATED ON THE PLANS,CAREFULLY GLUED UP,AND THEN THE RESPECTIVE BEVELS CUT.
 
ATTACHED PHOTOS SHOW THE RESULTS.
 
IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THE LOWER WING TRANSOM NEEDS TO HAVE ITS ENDS ANGLED SLIGHTLY IN ORDER TO FIT FULLY AGAINST THE REAR FACE OF THE CANT FRAME.
 
CHEERS.....MICK
 
THE OPTIVISORS ARE A RECENT AQUISITION.......I CAN NOW SEE WHAT IM DOING!!!!

WASHINGTON GALLEY PART 5 . MORE TRANSOMS STERN TIMBERS AND FUNNY BENDY THINGS.
 
HI ALL
 
BEEN BUSY BEAVERING AWAY MAKING LOTS OF SAWDUST.
 
STARTED MAKING THE STERN FRAMING COMPONENTS AND THE REST OF THE TRANSOMS.
 
ALSO DID A PRACTICE RUN WITH THE STERN COUNTER FASHION PIECES,THESE ITEMS ARE SOMEWHAT AWKWARD THINGS TO MAKE,I ENDED UP GLUING TWO PIECES OF 1/4" STOCK TOGETHER IN ORDER TO GET THE RIGHT THICKNESS. I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER TO CUT THESE FROM THE APPROPRIATE SINGLE THICKNESS......MAY BE ANOTHER ORDER TO TIMBERLINE! THE PRACTICE PIECES DONT LOOK TO BAD AND I MAY BE ABLE TO USE THEM......BUT THAT WILL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE STERN FRAMING GOES TOGETHER AND I CAN PROPERLY TEST FIT THEM. ANYTHING NOT UP TO SPEC GETS REMADE!!!!!
 
I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH SOME PHOTOS TOO SEE WHAT YOU THINK.
 
CHEERS.....MICK
 
P.S. ANY PHOTOS OF PLANS ARE OBVIOUSLY COPYRIGHT OF THE N.R.G. AND JEFF STAUDT.

WASHINGTON GALLEY....PART 4.....TRANSOMS
 
 
TWO UPDATES IN AS MANY DAYS.......BUSY,BUSY.....CANT YOU TELL IM ON PAROLE FROM WORK!!!
 
PATTERNS HAVE BEEN PASTED TO SOME APPROPRIATE STOCK IN THIS CASE 1/4 " THICK,JUST TO ALLOW PLENTY OF ROOM FOR MANOUVER.
 
THE TAFFRAIL HAS BEEN PASTED TO 1/8" INCH STOCK.
 
THE WING TRANSOM HAS BEEN CUT AND SHAPED BUT IVE LEFT THE ENDS UNFINISHED AS YET AS I NEED TO MAKE THE AFT CANT FRAME AND ITS ASSOCIATED HALF FRAME IN ORDER TO SEE HOW EVERYTHING FITS.........OR DOSNT AS THE CASE MAYBE!
 
APART FRON A WEE BIT OF FETTLING IM HAPPY WITH THE FIT OF THE WING TRANSOM TO THE INNER STERN POST.
 
PHOTOS INCLUDED.
 
CHEERS.....MICK

hi all
the "back bone" is now complete and mounted on the building board.
time to make some ribs!
first off i will have a go at making the transoms for the stern post......funky little beasts......should prove quite a challenge to get right........plenty off isopropanol in reserve!!
photos off current progress enclosed.
cheers....mick

WASHINGTON GALLEY  PART 2
 
HI ALL
 
WORK HAS CONTINUED ON THE KEEL.SCARF JOINTS HAVE BEEN CUT AND TARRED AND FALSE KEEL ADDED.
KEEL IS SLIGHTLY OVERLENGTH AT THE MOMENT TO ALLOW FOR FINAL ADJUSTMENT.
STERNPOST CUT AND TAPERED ,INNER STERNPOST SIZED AND READY FOR JOINT FOR TRANSOM TO BE CUT.
 
AFT DEADWOOD ASSEMBLED AND REBATES CUT FOR FRAMES.
 
STEMPOST CUT AND INNER SURFACE FINISHED, OUTER SURFACE AND GRIPE YET TO BE FULLY FETTLED. THE SAME APPLIES TO THE FORE DEADWOOD.
 
THE AFT DEADWOOD REBATES WERE CUT ON THE BYRNES SAW AS PER GREGS METHOD.
 
THATS THE STATE OF PLAY AT THE MOMENT.....GETTING READY TO CUT THE RABBETS!!!!
 
CHEERS.....MICK

WASHINGTON GALLEY PART 1
 
HI ALL
 
WOOD HAS FINALLY BEEN CUT.
STARTED WITH BASIC KEEL COMPONENTS.
MAIN KEEL CUT 3/16 WIDE BY 7/32 DEEP.  FALSE KEEL 3/16  X  1/16.  HOG 3/16  BY 3/32.
ALL CUT FROM SHEET MATERIAL ON THE BYRNES SAW.
 
I DECIDED TO DO THIS IN THREE SEPERATE PIECES AS IT WOULD BE EASIER TO PROFILE THE REBATE.
 
THE HOG(?) HAS PROVED TO BE QUITE A TASKING PIECE TO MAKE ACCURATELY. THE PIECES IN THE PHOTOS ARE THE FOURTH ATTEMPT!!!!
 
I ORIGINALLY ASSUMED THAT THE SPACE BETWEEN THE DOUBLE FRAMES,WHICH ARE 1FT THICK(SIDED) OR 1/4 INCH ON THE MODEL WOULD BE EQUAL TO 0NE FRAME THICKNESS OR 6INCHES IN REAL LIFE (1/8inch) ON THE MODEL.A QUICK MEASUREMENT LATE A NIGHT SEEMED TO CONFIRM THIS.
 
 
WRONG!WRONG!WRONG!............MEASURE TWICE OR EVEN THRICE.......CUT ONCE!
 
THE ACTUAL MEASUEMENT IS 9/16 ON AN INCH.
 
IN ORDER TO CUT THIS ACCURATELY I HAD TO DEVISE A JIG FOR THE MILLING MACHINE
( SEE PHOTOS)
 
 
BUILDING BOARD AND FRAME PLAN PREPARED AND ALMOST READY FOR USE.
 
A FEW JIGS HAVE ALSO BEEN MADE FOR HELP IN FRAME ALIGNMENT....BUT THESE MAY HAVE TO BE REDONE AS THEY MAY BE ON THE CLUNKY SIDE.
 
THATS ABOUT ALL FOR THE MOMENT.....BACK TO WORK WE GO
 
CHEERS....MICK

HI ALL
I THOUGHT ID LAUNCH A NEW TOPIC TO RUN IN PARALELL WITH CHUCKS CUTTER CHEERFUL.
PLANS HAVE BEEN PURCHASED AND STUDIED FROM THE NRG.
PRACTICUM HAS BEEN DOWNLOADED.....I HAD THIS SPIRAL BOUND AT A LOCAL PRINT SHOP JUST TO KEEP EVERYTHING TOGETHER.
BOXWOOD HAS BEEN ORDERED AND DELIVERED....IN 2 DAYS!!!!!
 
I WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO ORDER THE PRECUT PACKAGE FROM CROWN TIMBER.......HOWEVER WHILST I DO NOT DOUBT THE QUALITY OF JASONS PRODUCTS THE COST OF DELIVERY PLUS 20% VAT AND POST OFFICE HANDLING FEES WOULD HAVE PUSHED THE PRICE TO CLOSE ON £400.
 
I USUALLY USE A COUPLE OF COMPANYS FOR TIMBER ONE BEING ARKOWOOD AND THE OTHER BEING TIMBERLINE IN KENT ,UK.
I PHONED TIMBERLINE AND SPOKE TO BOB GIVING HIM A LIST OF REQUIREMENTS ( SCANTLING LIST IN BACK OF PRACTICUM) ALL IN IMPERIAL DIMENSIONS. THAT WAS YESTERDAY MORNING.
AT LUNCHTIME TODAY TNT TURNED UP WITH A NICE BIG PARCEL. ALL BOXWOOD TIMBER PROCESSED TO THE RELAVANT THICKNESSES IE THE CLOSEST METRIC EQUIVALENT.
 
THE 1/4 INCH THICK WORKS OUT AT 6.35MM.......AND IT IS!!
THE SAME APPLIES TO ALL OTHER THICKNESSES.
HOWS THAT FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE?
 
I CAN HIGHLY RECOMMENDED BOB AND HIS TEAM HAVING DEALT WITH THEM FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW.
THE ONLY THING WORTH MENTIONING IS THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO PLANE A STRAIGHT EDGE ON SOME OF THE TIMBER SHEETS.....HOW HARD IS THAT FOR A MODELMAKER?....AS THE SHEETS ARE CUT FROM A FAIRLY ROUGH SAWN BILLET.
 
 
I DIDNT ORDER ANY 1/16 AS IALREADY HAD SOME ON STOCK. THE 1/32 IS MAINLY FOR DECK PLANKING FOR WHICH I INTEND TO USE SOME ENGLISH HOLLY.
 
AND THE PRICE FOR ALL THAT LOVELY BOXWOOD (IN 1METRE LENGTHS) ?
 
INCLUDING VAT AND DELIVERY IT CAME TOO £164  A SIGNIFICANT SAVING FOR ME.
 
BUILDING BOARD HAS BEEN PREPARED SO I GUESS WERE READY TO START.
 
BUT FIRST FOUR NIGHT SHIFTS HAVE TO BE GOT OUT OF THE WAY!
 
CHEERS............MICK

hi bob
the acrylic was a bit of lateral thinking...I too was having trouble lining up my marks....the original ply jigs were too "clunky"......I will be sticking too acrylic in future!
look forward to your build of edt s extreme clipper....1/96 or 1/72 scale?
great thing about this forum is theres so many highly skilled guys and gals on here its the best resource on the planet!
 
cheers....mick

hi bob
the acrylic was a bit of lateral thinking...I too was having trouble lining up my marks....the original ply jigs were too "clunky"......I will be sticking too acrylic in future!
look forward to your build of edt s extreme clipper....1/96 or 1/72 scale?
great thing about this forum is theres so many highly skilled guys and gals on here its the best resource on the planet!
 
cheers....mick