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Looking great Chuck! I like the Surly scheme, then I can use redheart and dyed pear when I do mine.... There just isn't a good blue wood! :-)

Mark, the full model turned out great! You really pulled off that figurehead carving - I was wondering how that was going to turn out - great execution throughout and that has to be the best looking basswood model I have ever seen!! I am going to do the Granado cross section from MSB so I am hoping to steal some of your awesome techniques from this build. How is the Lady Anne coming? I finished my Harvey - guess I should update that log....  I am hoping to do a couple of Hahn's models after I retire as well, I have the Cromwell and Confederacy plans - did you do the full model using separate futtocks also or did you use the traditional method? if you did the stacked frame blanks can you give some comparison for both methods? I was wondering how it would be to build the frames up using the futtock method but still leave the extensions on and use the upside down method for framing. Are you going to build up the frames in two halfs and then glue the halfs together or are you going to layer them up as you build up each futtock? Also how did you determine where to section the futtock lines? Did you use the frame blank drawings from the plans or use the TLAR method? Keep up the great work and the great detail you provide in your logs, I learn a lot from referencing your work and the beautiful results you achieve motivate me to continually improve my own efforts. Thanks for sharing your passion for perfection with us....

Lou

Very nice Jack, awesome execution and detail. Your cross section is going to be epic!

Mark, great work, I have seen an article or book mentioned that descibes the Hahn method including making framing stock and jigs - can you point me to the reference? I have Ships of the American Revolution, am I missing it or is there a different book?

Thanks for the kind words guys, I have a long weekend so I hope to have more to show for it soon....

Thanks Mobbsie,you have a good eye-  yes that is some yellowheart for the first layer of the wales -I like to define the wales with a good contrasting wood so I can follow the line easily when I add the second layer. The black is some black stain that I used on the edge of the wales so that when I add the second layer (which will be stained black pear) you wont see the yellowheart under the edge of the wale. 

Well, I am going to do a Scratch build of the Granado Cross Section along with Grant, Mobbsie and Jack as soon as my plans get here but I have been working on the full model for some time using the plan set from Amati/Victory. I wanted to definitely do a build log for the cross section but I thought what the heck I may as well do a log for both. I plan on doing the cross much larger, I am contemplating 1/32 but 1/48 may be OK too I will see when the plans get here. - As usual I am using as little paint as possible and using various colored woods to depict the different schemes. So far I have used birch ply for the formers/bulkheads, Boxwood for the keel/stem and am planking with Pear and Boxwood and Holly on the deck. The bulwarks are Redheart as will be most of the various deck fittings. The mortar housings are from some curly bubinga or bocote - I am not sure which and I can't get an ID on it from Macbeath Hardwoods where I bought it - it must have been a pretty unique piece as I can't find any other wood like it despite several trips there. I am currently planking the hull with Box and will decide on whether to paint the waterline and below white after I complete it. Here are some pics of where I am ......

Well I cleaned up the boards and I must say I am liking these woods more and more. The makore looks alot like pear, a bit more grain to it but it is less than 1/3 the price, the anigre is just beautiful, holds an edge, machines well and easy to sand. Also less than 1/3 the cost of boxwood actually about 1/4 as much. I bought an 8/4 board - came out to just over 8 bf for $85

Are those two gray angled shims I see part of the answer? alter the angle that the vice holds the keel?

I recently picked up some anigre and makore atmy local Macbeaths hardwood store and I was wondering if anyone has used these for modeling? The anigre looks very nice with just wipe on poly but it shows little flecksof grain when stained... I was thinking of using it for framing timber, itis a bit lighter color than boxwood and softer too but I think it would look good when contrasted with a darker planking material like pear or the makore I also picked up. Any input on either of these woods appreciated.

Lou

I think I would like to join in on this group build - although I might do 1/32 scale - I am scratch building the Granado in 1/64 using the Amati plans and I want the cross section to be larger - I will need to wait till I get the plans to see how much larger. I mill my own wood and am using a similar variety of woods on my full model, could you guys provide the Hobbymill materials package dimensions / wood types so I can start preparing some billets please or is there a materials list included with the plans? Thanks, 

Lou

Mike, nice build you have going here, I was reading back and noticed you want to keep a subdued look. I have used bubinga as a replacement for walnut - it is dark like walnut but very tight grain and several overtones of brown/black. Workability is much like pear. You can see it in my Harvey build log..... Nice wood for various deck fittings.

Lou

Maybe a whole chapter on painting, brush technique, dry brushing, mixing colors - all those things you do so well in the upcoming book?

Chuck - that is looking really fine - I like that the bulkhead tops (sill support pieces) still have a lot of meat on them after fairing - they don't look near as fragile as most. Every project just gets better, and those spots you are seeing are part of that perfection you keep us striving for....  Still amazed at the resources you guys have for researching  these vessels, I don't know if it's because I live in a desert or just haven't tried hard enough, but you guys never cease to amaze with the wealth of info you provide. Looking forward to getting a crack at this beauty....

Lou

Chuck, took a look at this thread, very nice. This is going to be a winner! I don't know if you are still looking but I have used Nationalbalsa.com for ply in my R/C planes and it is very nice, I think the 1/4" stuff is 7 ply (birch) it is a bit spendy I think $12.75 for a 12x48 sheet but it has always been straight and the edges sand really well without splintering. I think you can get free shipping on larger orders and if you call them vs. Online order you mightbe able to get them to hand pick the nice stuff just a thought.... Balsa USA is another great resource.... At any rate I will be inline for this build whenit's ready..... Very nice windlass btw.... Much better than the one I scratched for my Harvey - is it going to be part of your inventory?

Jason, was it just the AOS book that influenced your decision on Diana? I ask as I am trying to decide between Diana and Aggy as well. I like them both but have to choose, either way I would upgrade wood and use minimal paint/stain. Any insight that led to your decision would be appreciated.

Very nice Jason, that margin plank looks great - howmany attempts did it take to achieve it? Seems like I have to always do the nice stuff multiple times

Lou

Can some tell me the scale of the ship/plans? I looked on the site but I don't see it mentioned....  Thanks,

Lou

Been a while since I looked in on your build Mark, very impressive to say the least - the crispness of your joinery and overall workmanship is outstanding and suggests a much harder wood than bass wood. Quite the accomplishment, subtle but beautiful. Any progress on the figurehead? Still thinking of a hooded figure?  I need to update my Harvey log - I finished it except for a couple anchors to make and rig....  Lou

Hallelujah Floyd!! Good to see some progress, now don't get sidetracked by all the football on this weekend....  

Lou

Bill, haven't seen an update, are you still working on your POB? Or taking a break through the holidays? In any case, have a great Christmas and New Year, Blessings to you and your bride.

Lou 

blackie, I found that I needed the vangs to exert some downward pull on the gaff so that the peak halyard would set correctly and help keep the lines taut. I however am not planning on as extensive rigging as you are though. I think trade offs need to be made to compensate for lack of mass, no sails, etc when working at model scales.

Lou

Installed and rigged the gaff  - rigging is starting to close in on me, my ham fistedness is showing itself. I have had to redo a few things (again) after inadvertently bumping into stuff as I focus on something else. Time to slow down and approach with caution....  here are a few shots of the gaff, the throat and peak halliards and the gaff vangs. 

Lou

Looking good Bill - that wenge looks nice, will be a awesome contrast with the boxwood planking....  BTW - what kind of scroll saw did you get?

Lou

On the POB there are sheaves.... at least according to the MS plans.  I don't think the Harvey ever was a real ship was it?