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Auvergne reacted to ringbolt2013 in HM Colonial Cutter Mermaid by olliechristo - FINISHED - Modellers ShipYard -
Biggest help to me was someone that said fit it. fit it, fit it and make sure each plank is correct and by the way fit it again!!!!! Did we talk about fitting each plank yet??? SORRY ABOUT THAT.
Tom
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Auvergne reacted to olliechristo in HM Colonial Cutter Mermaid by olliechristo - FINISHED - Modellers ShipYard -
Oh Jeez Im not sure Tom.. I hadn't even thought about that, but i know I do want to really take my time on the second planking... Any suggestions welcome on the planking..
So spent about 6 hours since last mention.. I soaked my supplied 3 ply bulwarks and bent in jig last week, they didn't really come up that well after their 24 hr drying time.. They sprung back a lot so i gave them a second round with a bit more curvature at bow....
I wanted to get my bulkwarks on after doing a few planking runs so I could make sure everything was tidy in interior and not have epoxy dripping down into finished work.. Jeez that stuff is hard to get off. Getting the bulwarks to sit right was no easy task and keeping the epoxy from going everywhere was the main worry.. I was also concerned about keeping the bulwarks standing plumb and square consistently with deck and hull. So i made the three supports which kept it all straight whilst also giving something to prevent clamps over squeezing hull... I am happy with the way it cured and it seems really strong...
Thanks for looking.. Ollie
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Auvergne reacted to olliechristo in HM Colonial Cutter Mermaid by olliechristo - FINISHED - Modellers ShipYard -
Hi all. I have made a milestone and started planking.. I added bow filler blocks of balsa to aid in bending and some shims were needed on ply deck at bow..
I am happy with my progress and i think i am doing it right with the tempory plank.. Measurements for the first side showing.. I am guessing you want to try make the other side suit as much as possible ? (in regards to measurements.. esp at bow and stern)
I am also wondering about false keel and if its best to fit it over first layer planking or do you scribe it in and fit to ply frame? (I will be scratch building my false keel) Thanks all.. Ollie
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Auvergne got a reaction from mtaylor in Xebec by Auvergne - Amati - 1:60 - C. 1753
Following are some of the photos I promised.
Have fun folks....
John
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Auvergne got a reaction from tasmanian in Xebec Cazador by cor_f - OcCre - 1:60 - kit bashing 2nd build
Excellent job you have done here!!! My Xebec is by Amati and instructions all in Italian. This is only my second build, the first was a Bireme that I have set aside for I am waiting for the right time to get back to her.
Your planking and all in my view are superior quality. I only hope I can do as well.
Warm Regards,
John
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Auvergne reacted to cor_f in Xebec Cazador by cor_f - OcCre - 1:60 - kit bashing 2nd build
So I decided to start a small log of my progress on my Occre Xebec "Cazador". Mainly because there's no other log of any Xebec on MSW2. On the old MSW there where several, the log from Alexander Romaschenko has been a great help. Luckily Ilhan still had the pictures....
I'm not too happy with the quality of the Occre kit, I have the feeling it's not complete i'm missing quite some parts and as always there's not enough rope. I've thrown away quite some parts as well. All metal parts and plywood, precut parts.
I've made the cannon carts and rigged them. Also i've put the cannons in Brass-black to make them look (they actually are) oxidized. I'm using pear and wallnut for remaking the plywood parts.
I've started in 2009 and have been working on and off. I have 4 daughters so got my hands full from time to time
2010:
So that's quite nice but not nice enough.......
2011:
Current state:
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Auvergne got a reaction from cor_f in Xebec by Auvergne - Amati - 1:60 - C. 1753
So sorry for the delay...
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Auvergne got a reaction from olliechristo in Xebec by Auvergne - Amati - 1:60 - C. 1753
OK...let me try and load the photos for the previous post. What you see is mentioned in my previous post. I will say, the 1st layer of decking material is 1.32 mm thick. Very fine material (basswood), and I have not included photos of the deck (unfinished), but did have to trim the notches for the gunwale posts. I will post those photos as soon as that phase of the job is complete. Thanks for your patience.
John E
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Auvergne reacted to themadchemist in Xebec by Auvergne - Amati - 1:60 - C. 1753
Hey John
Not to be nosey but I was just curious where you got the Amati Xebec kit. I just saw cornwall has it for $196 US which sounds really reasonable but shipping fron the UK may be expensive. Just curious where and how much she set you back as now seeing her, you've given me the bug again. I like that its a 1:60 scale also.
You really have me wanting one of these now. Next to the Galleons, the Xebec is one of my favorite gun ships.
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Auvergne reacted to themadchemist in Xebec by Auvergne - Amati - 1:60 - C. 1753
I've always loved the Xebec design with its lateen sail and unique deck structure. This should be a fun build to watch.
I've always loved the model posted here
http://www.shipmodels.com.ua/eng/models/elite/shebeka/index.htm
Alexander Romashchenko's log was one of the great losses when the old MSW1 disappeared into a puff of electrons.
It has some beautiful carving and so much detail. Sure a beautiful build.
Looks like your off to a good start, John. Its good to see this being built as its a fairly rare kit as far as I've seen.
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Auvergne got a reaction from gjdale in Xebec by Auvergne - Amati - 1:60 - C. 1753
So sorry for the delay...
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Auvergne got a reaction from sawdust in Xebec by Auvergne - Amati - 1:60 - C. 1753
So sorry for the delay...
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Auvergne got a reaction from mtaylor in Xebec by Auvergne - Amati - 1:60 - C. 1753
So sorry for the delay...
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Auvergne got a reaction from mtaylor in Xebec by Auvergne - Amati - 1:60 - C. 1753
OK...let me try and load the photos for the previous post. What you see is mentioned in my previous post. I will say, the 1st layer of decking material is 1.32 mm thick. Very fine material (basswood), and I have not included photos of the deck (unfinished), but did have to trim the notches for the gunwale posts. I will post those photos as soon as that phase of the job is complete. Thanks for your patience.
John E
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Auvergne got a reaction from bjoern in Xebec by Auvergne - Amati - 1:60 - C. 1753
So sorry for the delay...
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Auvergne got a reaction from ringbolt2013 in HM Colonial Cutter Mermaid by olliechristo - FINISHED - Modellers ShipYard -
Really Cool craftsmanship!!! Doing a great job!!
John E
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Auvergne reacted to sawdust in Xebec by Auvergne - Amati - 1:60 - C. 1753
Hello John,
Hubert mentioned the fit of some of the frames were tight and also their alignment in some cases needed adjustment. I should have mentioned that there is a one time subscription fee of $45 (?) but it is possible to take a somewhat limited look before laying out money. The site is fcontinually updated , full of tips and techniques many in video form. In case you are wondering I have no connection with Hubert other than being a satisfied customer. You may wwant to seek the opinion of others before subscribing.
Have fun and enjoy the journey,
Kip
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Auvergne reacted to gjdale in Xebec by Auvergne - Amati - 1:60 - C. 1753
Thanks for the pics John, looks like she will make up into a very nice model indeed.
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Auvergne reacted to sawdust in Xebec by Auvergne - Amati - 1:60 - C. 1753
Hello John, If I recall correctly there were a number of builds of this kit on MSW1 so there is some expertise and experience that may resurface as you progress. Do you have membership to Hubert Sicard's site " wooden Ship Models for Dummies"? He featured the kit as a build . Sadly after a very informative start he dropped the project. I know early on decisions' have to be made regarding whether the deck planks are to be laid curved, as in the illustrations (but not in the instructions). I know he also installed the outer gratings correctly so that the tops lay flush with the finished deck. It is an elegant vessel and good quality kit. How is your Italian? I look forward to following your build.
Kip (aka Sawdust)
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Auvergne got a reaction from cor_f in Xebec by Auvergne - Amati - 1:60 - C. 1753
Following are a few photos of the kit. One thing I have noticed on this Xebec is all material appear (to me, anyway), to be of high grade. A great kit to build I believe. Time is of the essence and with my next step once the bulkhead frames are individualized I will paint them as the colors the kit requires, then attach to the keel.
Onward I shall proceed. Presently it is 3:46 A.M. I have officially entered the ship yard.
Thank you kindly Grant for the friendly reminder of posting photos.....let me give her a try.
Regards,
John E
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Auvergne reacted to gjdale in Xebec by Auvergne - Amati - 1:60 - C. 1753
Sounds like an interesting project John. How about starting with a few photos of the kit box and contents?
I look forward to following your progress with this one.
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Auvergne got a reaction from olliechristo in Xebec by Auvergne - Amati - 1:60 - C. 1753
A fresh start to a new build, friends. This is a Barbary coastal favorite ship of a variety of pirates during the 18th century. I chose this build for a second build in progress to relieve myself from mistakes made on the first build for awhile. I have learned a great deal from you all and really must think every stage of the operation through.
The Xebec is a fascinating ship of her day. She was swift and carried a fairly good size armament for her crew typically used by Mediterranean pirates and off the Algerian coastline. I will give more history later.
This Amati kit is a museum quality hardwoods and softwoods, metal fittings and cannons, scrollwork, oars, lateen sails, six types of rigging, color plan...I have found this kit to be of very good quality
More data to come in good time...
John E
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Auvergne reacted to mtaylor in Licorne by mtaylor - 3/16" scale - POF - TERMINATED LOG
Jay,
I tried a couple of frames to cut out the individual pieces and build the frames like say, the Triton and the Swan class ships. Ended up doing the Hahn way. I ended up with a nice scrapbox full of kindling for the fireplace. One way saves wood, the other time. On this ship, I choose to save time.
Lots of nice woods out there that less expensive than boxwood... cherry and pear are two that look good to my eyes.
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Auvergne reacted to mtaylor in Licorne by mtaylor - 3/16" scale - POF - TERMINATED LOG
Thanks for looking in and the support, everyone. When I saw this, I realised the fore and quarter decks will be the real canvas for the work.
Christian,
I had thought about it but then I recalled the Admiral's directive: completely planked, no "unfinished look".
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Auvergne reacted to popeye the sailor in Licorne by mtaylor - 3/16" scale - POF - TERMINATED LOG
the right choice indeed.........she's going to look very good with the upper deck in place. super job Mark!
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