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Can anyone tell me what the best way is to cut out the gun ports. This because of a small disaster by witch I almost destroyed my bulkwark. Now in repair mode
The damage is sever but the wood is patient as always. Please I am in need of advise
jan
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Thank you all for giving me this good advise and for looking at the log and the pictures.
@Tony
I have to be very self critic on my work, But I thank you for what you say I keep it in mind.
@Kester
Thank you for the words about my clinker planking I did what I was capable of but a bit more patient will be the word from now on.
@Jay
I have learned again about myself and that is a good thing. But I have also learne how much fun it is to build a small boat like this.
progress will be slow I have a bathroom to renovate. There will be time for the boat. There will be study for the deck and how to do the caulking. and so on and son.
As soon as there are things to report or questions to ask you will hear from me.
By for now Jan
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PlankingI almost finished my planking on the Sherbourne. Just one ore two planks and the whale on the starboard side.What is there to say about this project.To be honest it was above my capabilities. And I mean by that woodworking and caracter. To eager to proveI was able do do it. But had not enough patince to carry the project to a better standard and most of alldid not do the first planking to well. Because of the first planking being not to well I had to do thisclinker planking to hide all the faults I made.What to say about the end product is is what it is. I have learned a lot. About model ship building and abouthow I can do it better. First be more patient in working out, it will come in the end. Second technique.I am satisfied with the result it looks ok with all the faults and mishapes it is what i could do atthe moment. And there are musch better plankings than this one.It is my ship and thats what it is with all his or her inperfection. And most of all one side is muschbetter than the other side.I will glue in little splinters here and there and go on with the build and leave the hull and plankingfor what is was. A proces with a verry steep learning curve and fun to do.Her is a picture of where I am now.Jan
I little remark the wood provided by the kit is ok it is very brittle and some of the planks for the second planking split easy.All in all clinker planking can be done with the wood of the kit.
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Sorry Tony forgot to tell you about working out the whale solution. Yes it gave me confidence to work it out and to see the result.
When I look at it now it appears natural to me . It looks like two big wooden beams making the whale together.
All in all a good looking solution of a not so big a problem.
Jan
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Thank you Tony I appreciate your compliment What you said on our own build about planking both sides the other one is already half the way.
I know the boat of Stockholm Tar looked at it several times. Actually he told me that clinker was well to do with the wood from the kit.
It is with this wood from the kit well to do but next time I will give more attention to first planking that makes it easier to do than what I just did.
I will doe the other side and see what comes up next.
jan
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HelloI have come a long way with the clinker planking on one side of the hull. But I had some problems.Because the first planking was not that perfect, Bumps and dents. The second planking was, when I went higeron the hull comming further and further out. In my opinion there was a way to solve this and that was toconstruct the main whale and work may way op to there. The whale was my reference in the planking.The thougt was to make a whale - stop the walnut planking there - place the whale and go on planking the lastplanks. The extra was that the last planks would go straight on and shoud solve my problem, how to end theclinker planking in a nice looking way, so I did.I constructed a whale out of a couple of first planking planks bend it in shape sanded it and this isthe result.
There is one major thing can I repeat it at the other side so there will be a good look and not muschdifference? None I hope! The whale will not be to difficult to remake but the clinker planking has tobe the same at least.This is the result of all that planking. Whale in place and one plank glued.jan
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Hoi Tony,
I have red this 135 post of you again and again and i can not more agreeable with you than I have already in earlier post expressed.
I have done my build clinker on one side and building a main whale from scratch, you will see in my build log what I have done must do to overcome a problem with the clinker planking. The point I want to make is that building this boat is so much fun and satisfaction and learning all the time. I am thinking about the deck that will come as the next next project. Reading about deck in different builds and so on and so on. First I will plank the other side. I will post the progress and the building of the main whale on my build. Thanks for all the good advise you give in you posts.
Jan
PS if my English is not to good excuses for that
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More of the same planking I mean. Clinker planking is more difficult than I thought but it is going the way I want, although it is a hell of a job.
I am doing the best I can and even more some time I surprise my self and learning in the process.
I have to slow down myself before I make mistakes that will cost me. On the other hand I can not wait to work on the deck or other things, but for now I will slow down a bit before it is to late. I think this slowing down is one off the things I learn from this hobby.
Have solved the bulkwark problem by closing two gunports and opening two other ones. in time I will see if that is enough to overcome my mistake.
Enjoying this whole thing of building a boat very much.
Jan
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The first planking is finished it was a real job. With some filler it is smooth as it can be. Not totaly to my liking but can not do better as a first timer. Hope that the second planking will go well. I had clinker in mind but I think that it will be carvel, not decided yet. Afraid that klinker will be to difficult but do not know, I will
give some thougt and diced later.
next time foto off the second planking.
jan
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I am sorry guys, but I will not take it down. I maybe in trouble with the rigging ore all kinds of other things but there will be solutions for these problems.
In my opinion it is a bit like live itself. I can turn back time by the use of some chemical and start all over again. I will not do that it is against my nature to solve things by turning back the time, I will have to live by my mistake and try to make the best of it. By the way sailing a ship is most of the time solving problems forthcoming out of mistakes ore mishaps. Building a ship is more ore less the same if it a real ship or a model.
Jan
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Because of the situation with the gun ports en the deck I decided to make a gun carriage just to see how of things are. Making a gun carriage for the Serbourne is practicing big hands on small things. Finally there was a carriage with a gun on it.
I will make another one for practice reason and to see if I can make that one better than the first one. Placing the gun on the deck showed that all is well be it a bit cramp but it is to do. We will see when the time comes.
Thats al for now
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I did my first planking and what a job is that. It good that there will be another planking before the final result. This is much much more difficult than I ever thought. There are now 6 planks on the port side. Next after Xmas is the starboard side. Just now there is X-mas the family dinner the papers and wine and food.
I wish you all a merry Christma and a happey and healty 2014
By for now from the Rotterdam Dockyard
Jan
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Hello Tony and Sjors,
I thought that it can befixed by altering them downwards after the planking inside and outside removing them is not an option for me, I know it mebe sound stupid but that's the way I am. It is not that your advise in not good but I will not follow it up and think of an alternative way to solve the gun problem. Thanks any way. I hope you will not hate me for being so stubborn :mellow:
I have more dificulty's with the planking have to look up how the bow is done and the curve he makes.
I hope you can give me some advise on that one
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Hello
Here are some pictures of today and how the boat is coming together plus my mistake with the bulwark strip the starboard on is the other way around.
And he was to far in the prow so when the starboard one was ready I discovered it. Problems begin ti rise when the strip would fit what soever..
As you can see the stern need some fixing the rest is ok I think.
Have to do some before planking can begin in no hurry
Jan
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SaterdayThis is so much more difficult than i thought. I have made my first big mistake. I glued the gun bulk-ward the wrong way. and second had some good problems getting the other one on the ship. All is glued and drying now but there have to be more patience and more careful planing than til now. I think all is to over com but besides i thought that I was careful it went wrong. I show you in the course of the day when I can take a picture.sorry for my grammar in EnglishI am happy I did not panic! Try to solve the problem and think it can live with it.
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This is exactly what I like a wooden ship with no paint on the hull. It is ofcoarse everybodys one choice but I like the finish of wood. Also a great reference to my own build as I me say, there is only one word "WONDERFULL" I keep coming back to see your progress.
Merry Christmas and a very good 2014
From Jan Rotterdam Holland
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another day at the dutch dockyard,
Did not do to much although the deck is glued and the gunports are in the water for the second time will fit and let them dry overnight. We will see tomorrow how they will fit. The stern is given me a bit of not understanding have to look at other builds how it is made and if I have to sand off a bit of deck.
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Thank you Eamonn,
It took a few years to complete and it is not so well done but that little boat have brought me here and that is ferry nice. I am now building my Sherbourne wich give a lot af plesure in doing so. The research, the thinking of how to do it and so on and so on. And that is only the beginning meeting people discussing and having fun at a great hobby.
I wish you a great Christmas & good New Year
By the way I love Ireland and Irish people have there three times and had the best off times in the north and the south as well.
Best wishes from Jan Rotterdam Holland
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Hello Gregor,
Thank you for the post and the following of my build. I am just a beginner as I see what you do I think there is a long way to go. But never the less I am building and all go's well. I am progressing in the build but have to calm down in order not make mistakes witch I will certainly do. For now I am having so much fun and joy in being here on the site and meeting wonderful skilled people. It is amazing how your ship is coming to live with all the detail. As I me and like Tony said "WELL DONE"!.
regards Jan.
HMC Sherbourne 1763 by Hollander-jan - Caldercraft - 1/64
in - Kit build logs for subjects built from 1751 - 1800
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Sorry for no picture I am a shamed the damage has been repaired but now I have to open 7 more of those ports and do not know the way to do it I make a picture but the light is bad so the picture will be not to good> I will see what the picture of the repaired damage will show and a few pictures of the port situation I am in.
Jan