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Hollander-jan got a reaction from Gregor in HMC Sherbourne 1763 by Hollander-jan - Caldercraft - 1/64
The rudder is a real pain in the ears, hope not offending anyone. The state is now 4 up one to go, 2 pintels and 2 gudgeonons. The last one will be the most difficult because by 2 you alway have some margin number four gives you no margin. I realy don't know how you all did this there must have been a lot of swearing be involved in achieving things as they are in the other (your) build(s). I am dry fitting this thing now for 100 times and not relay satisfied.
There will be an end to this but I am sure I will redo it after I have the right soldering materials and equipment, ( in a year or in two monts).
I whis you all a good week-end and see you again on MSW,
Jan
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Hollander-jan got a reaction from egkb in HMC Sherbourne 1763 by Hollander-jan - Caldercraft - 1/64
The rudder is a real pain in the ears, hope not offending anyone. The state is now 4 up one to go, 2 pintels and 2 gudgeonons. The last one will be the most difficult because by 2 you alway have some margin number four gives you no margin. I realy don't know how you all did this there must have been a lot of swearing be involved in achieving things as they are in the other (your) build(s). I am dry fitting this thing now for 100 times and not relay satisfied.
There will be an end to this but I am sure I will redo it after I have the right soldering materials and equipment, ( in a year or in two monts).
I whis you all a good week-end and see you again on MSW,
Jan
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Hollander-jan reacted to Stockholm tar in HM Schooner Ballahoo by egkb - FINISHED - Caldercraft - 1:64 Scale - First Proper Wood Build
Jan,
Worming, parceling and serving, were all part of protecting the rigging (more particularly the shrouds and stays) from the weather, and general wear and tear. The first two practices were applied with the lay of the rope, whilst the serving was done in the opposite direction, hence the old saying, 'worm and parcel with the lay, turn and serve the other way'.
For model purposes, only the serving part is normally done – the shroud, etc, would be far to thick if the first two were done as well, and they are not necessary. The serving process is rather difficult to do properly by hand, so machines have been devised to do it more efficiently:
http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/5366-serving-machine-25-serving-machine-20-power-option/
Alexey's machine, as I mentioned, is very good, and I have used it on my running backstays. I didn't have it before that point, so the shrouds are done in the old way – you can spot the difference! You can also use it for seizing blocks to rigging.
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Hollander-jan got a reaction from Mirabell61 in HMC Sherbourne 1763 by Hollander-jan - Caldercraft - 1/64
Hi Eamonn,
ofcourse you cab have the addres http://www.rbmodel.com/index.php?action=products&cat=news they do a swift job you order - they mail they have the
order- then when they post it - all within 5 days in my case.
I just made one for practice yesterday and finished it today here are the pictures notice the wheels. they still need some sanding, comes all right.
Have a nice weekend
Jan
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Hollander-jan got a reaction from egkb in HMC Sherbourne 1763 by Hollander-jan - Caldercraft - 1/64
Kester,
It is a good suggestion to plank the rudder never thought about it. I have more than enough planks to do so. The rudder is complicated work, I want it removable, don't know if I can achieve that but it is my goal. The state of things is now two pintels and two gudgeons so 2 up one to go. And the planking.
Will be very happy when this is done. I see the rudder as one of the most important elements of the model, at last for this moment.
By the way I have bought a couple of canons in Polen. Very good value for money. ( 14 Euro for 8 canons including shipping) .They came as a kit and I assembled one just to see how they look and fit on the ship.
I think they are all right and look better then those that came with the kit. Al tough the are not as good as the ones Dubz made.
Jan
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Hollander-jan got a reaction from egkb in HM Schooner Ballahoo by egkb - FINISHED - Caldercraft - 1:64 Scale - First Proper Wood Build
Hi Eamonn,
Bit late in visiting our build excuse me please, like to have a seat is this theatre. Its going very well I see nice work on the planking. An you have a Sherbourne in the waiting room I understand. Nice to follow that as well. Hope you do well in the build of this boat. Be seeing you,
by for now. Jan
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Hollander-jan reacted to egkb in HM Schooner Ballahoo by egkb - FINISHED - Caldercraft - 1:64 Scale - First Proper Wood Build
Photo Update as Promised:
3 more planks each side went on this morning for a grand total of 6 a side, remember I'm not overly concerned over their appearance as this is only 1st planking and my aim is to get them on relatively neatly so as to give a good base for 2nd planking.
They are cut over length, and will be trimmed/sanded down later. I most likely will nail them in place also, particularly at the bow/stern areas as the last think I want is for them to 'spring' later.
Thanks For Checking In..
Eamonn
Oh and Dee Dee, if you are reading this I ordered those books from Abebooks this morning, Thanks again for the tip as I reckon I got them all for the price of 2 with Amazon! Thanks also to Kester & Nigel for putting me onto them to begin with! E
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Hollander-jan got a reaction from Stockholm tar in HMC Sherbourne 1763 by Hollander-jan - Caldercraft - 1/64
Kester I think you'r right it is to wide. The problem is the construction of my pintels and gudgeons that is to say in two ways. Material choice made soldering impossible so I had to glue. Thickness of the holder and the tube, the receiver of the pintel, made the total construction to thick, resulting in comming not close enough to the ship with the rudder..
I have reconstructed it, to solve this, by cutting in the rudder. The cutouts are made so that the fit is more towards the ship. It is now, with the first pintel and gudgeon on 1 mm (see picture) BTW it drives me nuts to get it so close to the ship.
But you are quit right, To much space between rudder and ship is a major flaw. I am happy to be able to do the changes.
Jan
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Hollander-jan got a reaction from Gregor in HMC Sherbourne 1763 by Hollander-jan - Caldercraft - 1/64
Kester I think you'r right it is to wide. The problem is the construction of my pintels and gudgeons that is to say in two ways. Material choice made soldering impossible so I had to glue. Thickness of the holder and the tube, the receiver of the pintel, made the total construction to thick, resulting in comming not close enough to the ship with the rudder..
I have reconstructed it, to solve this, by cutting in the rudder. The cutouts are made so that the fit is more towards the ship. It is now, with the first pintel and gudgeon on 1 mm (see picture) BTW it drives me nuts to get it so close to the ship.
But you are quit right, To much space between rudder and ship is a major flaw. I am happy to be able to do the changes.
Jan
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Hollander-jan reacted to Gregor in HMC Sherbourne 1763 by Hollander-jan - Caldercraft - 1/64
Before gluing gun posts and timberheads, you might have a look at the original plan. If you want to add a ladder, you should probably change the position of some of them (see my log, or better still, Dirk's log - his gun posts are better placed than mine, for a gunner to serve the aftermost swivels). I filled some of the holes with spare wood and made new ones where necessary.
Take your time deciding where you want to place swivels and ladder (see also Kester's and Tony's log).
Gregor
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Hollander-jan got a reaction from Gregor in HMC Sherbourne 1763 by Hollander-jan - Caldercraft - 1/64
The first of the three rudder pintles is ready and dry fitted on the rudder. Because of diferend materials soldering was not an option, not to say a disaster.
So I glued it on after a trial glue with metal, used ca it holds good. If the others go as good as this one I am one happy rudder maker.
cheers , skol, proost, bottems up!
Jan
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Hollander-jan got a reaction from NAZGÛL in HMC Sherbourne 1763 by Hollander-jan - Caldercraft - 1/64
Did some metal work today. It worked not out the way I hoped. Almost there, and it broke on one off the holes. We will do it again.
gudgeon sample
An other thing is, I glued on the transom. In some way it had to go on like the picture shows.
transom
I managed to revise the cannon and the ports all fits well now. Drilled trough the cannon and replaced the trunions with copper tube of 1.6 mm brass tube, looks good.
cannon rivesed.
Jan
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Hollander-jan got a reaction from egkb in HMC Sherbourne 1763 by Hollander-jan - Caldercraft - 1/64
Did some metal work today. It worked not out the way I hoped. Almost there, and it broke on one off the holes. We will do it again.
gudgeon sample
An other thing is, I glued on the transom. In some way it had to go on like the picture shows.
transom
I managed to revise the cannon and the ports all fits well now. Drilled trough the cannon and replaced the trunions with copper tube of 1.6 mm brass tube, looks good.
cannon rivesed.
Jan
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Hollander-jan got a reaction from Dubz in HMC Sherbourne 1763 by Hollander-jan - Caldercraft - 1/64
Did some metal work today. It worked not out the way I hoped. Almost there, and it broke on one off the holes. We will do it again.
gudgeon sample
An other thing is, I glued on the transom. In some way it had to go on like the picture shows.
transom
I managed to revise the cannon and the ports all fits well now. Drilled trough the cannon and replaced the trunions with copper tube of 1.6 mm brass tube, looks good.
cannon rivesed.
Jan
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Hollander-jan got a reaction from Stockholm tar in HMC Sherbourne 1763 by Hollander-jan - Caldercraft - 1/64
Did some metal work today. It worked not out the way I hoped. Almost there, and it broke on one off the holes. We will do it again.
gudgeon sample
An other thing is, I glued on the transom. In some way it had to go on like the picture shows.
transom
I managed to revise the cannon and the ports all fits well now. Drilled trough the cannon and replaced the trunions with copper tube of 1.6 mm brass tube, looks good.
cannon rivesed.
Jan
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Hollander-jan got a reaction from Stockholm tar in HMC Sherbourne 1763 by Hollander-jan - Caldercraft - 1/64
Kester I forgot to thank you for your remarks about the deck you know how I struggled with it. The realy bad thing about it is that when it was done I discovered just the right planks for the margings in my desk drawer. (5 mm wide and 1 mm thick) It was a bit of a blow after the work I had was the margins that I used, but anyway it is on and its not to bad. Like you said we know what's wrong and after all " Beauty is in the eye of the beholder ".
Jan
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Hollander-jan got a reaction from Stockholm tar in HMC Sherbourne 1763 by Hollander-jan - Caldercraft - 1/64
Thank you Kester, as always very fundamental remarks and suggestions I like that. There are several things not ok. The deckhouse will be redone in an other fashion I like this one because I worked so hard on it but it is not right so it will be discarded. Replaced by something else.
The cannons are a problem, like you say the do not fit the ports. In the Alert book I saw what you say about the ports that they go to just under the rail so that is what I was intending to do just before the rail goes on. Have to look at it carefully.
I am studying the rudder and thinking about how to do it. Must practise soldering for that one and find out how the pins and gudgeon's will go together.
Will read what the site has to say about metal work and so on.
Struggling a bit with what to do next. And thinking of buying ready made guns and carriages in Polen.
So enough thinking and work to do.
greetings Jan
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Hollander-jan got a reaction from Gregor in HMC Sherbourne 1763 by Hollander-jan - Caldercraft - 1/64
Did some metal work today. It worked not out the way I hoped. Almost there, and it broke on one off the holes. We will do it again.
gudgeon sample
An other thing is, I glued on the transom. In some way it had to go on like the picture shows.
transom
I managed to revise the cannon and the ports all fits well now. Drilled trough the cannon and replaced the trunions with copper tube of 1.6 mm brass tube, looks good.
cannon rivesed.
Jan
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Hollander-jan got a reaction from tkay11 in HMC Sherbourne 1763 by Hollander-jan - Caldercraft - 1/64
After all the planking of hull and deck something completely different. I thougt lets make
an contribution to the kit bashing idea.
So I have done some construction work on a companion way. Here are some pictures of the making off.
pictures
1 paper version
2 half way
after making it less wide this the final version.
In the end it was a bit wide. I disided to make it smaller it was not a complete rebuild but more
a cut away of the sides what was verry well to do.
study on the rudder. That is a challenge but it is comming to my mind how to do it.
Jan
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Hollander-jan got a reaction from Stockholm tar in HMC Sherbourne 1763 by Hollander-jan - Caldercraft - 1/64
After all the planking of hull and deck something completely different. I thougt lets make
an contribution to the kit bashing idea.
So I have done some construction work on a companion way. Here are some pictures of the making off.
pictures
1 paper version
2 half way
after making it less wide this the final version.
In the end it was a bit wide. I disided to make it smaller it was not a complete rebuild but more
a cut away of the sides what was verry well to do.
study on the rudder. That is a challenge but it is comming to my mind how to do it.
Jan
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Hollander-jan got a reaction from Stockholm tar in HMC Sherbourne 1763 by Hollander-jan - Caldercraft - 1/64
The deck is on the boat. It is far from perfect. In the end, and after this exercise, I can say, "It
looks like a deck in my opinion". At the moment I can not do any better than this.
To show this product on the site Of MSW gives me the feeling that altough every thing is not perfect.
But let me tel you I am proud of it.
iff you will give me comments than that's OK. I enjoy What I am doing with the
skills I now have. This was one of the hardest things I have ever done with wood believe me.
(and I have done something with wood, altough it always was bigger than this deck)
It was a learnig proces all the way, I hope to do better next time.
And like Kester said only we know how hard it is and where the imperfections are.
picture of deck.
More difficult things to come, we are making a model boat, improving our skills, and doing this
to the best of our abbilitys.
Cheers
Jan
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Hollander-jan got a reaction from olliechristo in HMC Sherbourne 1763 by Hollander-jan - Caldercraft - 1/64
The deck is on the boat. It is far from perfect. In the end, and after this exercise, I can say, "It
looks like a deck in my opinion". At the moment I can not do any better than this.
To show this product on the site Of MSW gives me the feeling that altough every thing is not perfect.
But let me tel you I am proud of it.
iff you will give me comments than that's OK. I enjoy What I am doing with the
skills I now have. This was one of the hardest things I have ever done with wood believe me.
(and I have done something with wood, altough it always was bigger than this deck)
It was a learnig proces all the way, I hope to do better next time.
And like Kester said only we know how hard it is and where the imperfections are.
picture of deck.
More difficult things to come, we are making a model boat, improving our skills, and doing this
to the best of our abbilitys.
Cheers
Jan
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Hollander-jan got a reaction from egkb in HMC Sherbourne 1763 by Hollander-jan - Caldercraft - 1/64
After all the planking of hull and deck something completely different. I thougt lets make
an contribution to the kit bashing idea.
So I have done some construction work on a companion way. Here are some pictures of the making off.
pictures
1 paper version
2 half way
after making it less wide this the final version.
In the end it was a bit wide. I disided to make it smaller it was not a complete rebuild but more
a cut away of the sides what was verry well to do.
study on the rudder. That is a challenge but it is comming to my mind how to do it.
Jan
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Hollander-jan got a reaction from Gregor in HMC Sherbourne 1763 by Gregor – FINISHED - Caldercraft – Scale 1:64 - first build
Gregor,
Thank you for this supporting comments on my side. I appriciate this so much. Like you say making a copy of what someone else has achieved is nt a bad thing to do. After what I have done with the ship so far I am now in a more relaxed way working on it. The thing was I had to prove that I could do it that has been the case so far me it not be to the standard of many others I am enjoying it and wil be doing so in the futher. What I also like is this talking about it with all the other people on MSW. The support we give each other is a verry good thing to experience.
This little boat gives all of so much joy!
Jan
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Hollander-jan reacted to Gregor in HMC Sherbourne 1763 by Gregor – FINISHED - Caldercraft – Scale 1:64 - first build
Great, Jan - just take it as easy as you can, and never hurry (this is supposed to be a relaxing alternative to stressful occupations; at least it is for me).
When I see an especially beautiful detail that another builder has made, I try to copy it, if I can or to make something similar, but simpler - or I let it go all together. This kit has given me almost two years of pleasure so far, and I'm in no hurry to finish quickly. This mind-set allows me even to remove things, to try to make a better version (many do that here, sometimes to an astonishing degree, and I take courage from their example).
Cheers,
Gregor
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