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Resumption of work on the hamstrings of foal.
Face retouching of the cariatide davit holder

Here is the support of the davit that comes to rest on the vertical bar of the herpes.
The head is being sculpted as well as the lower shoe that will support this support by being fixed on the speakers.
Careful and very long, the macro does not forgive anything.

Proue and Lyres

Ciao e grazie a tutti.
Altre foto.
Hello and thanks to everyone. More photos.
   

 

 

 

 

 

 
Un Saluto

2011-09-19: Longitudinal section







 

2011-09-18: The platforms in the hold.











 
Putting the keel assembly, the planking in the hold, and the platforms together.

2011-06-15: main wale

 
2011-06-15: shape of the external planking

 
The frames can be seen by setting the external planking transparent!

 
2011-06-16: Cutting the bottom planking into individual planks.

 
2011-06-17: Finished cutting the bottom planking.

 
2011-06-18: The main wale was also cut into individual pieces.




 

2011-02-26: details of the chains and deadeyes

 
2011-02-28: HALF-BREADTH PLAN added - keel assembly, main half breadth, toptimber half breadth, top side half breadth, half breadth of the rising line, projections of the diagonals

 
2011-03-02: BODY PLAN added. A set of lines for the inner surface of the frames are also drawn but not shown in this figure.

 
2011-03-04: water lines, cant frames, fashion piece, hawse pieces, transoms, inner post, apron, keelson, first thick limber strake next the limbers

 
2011-03-05: deadwood knee, disposition of the frames

 
2011-03-08: disposition of the square frames

 
The 3D build began from this point!

Let's get started!
 
2011-02-09: keel, false keel, perpendiculars, cutting down line, lower deck, upper deck, stem post, stern post, stern counters, stern timbers

 
2011-02-10: toptimber line, top side lines, water lines, forecastle, quarter deck

 
2011-02-12: lower breadth line, upper breadth line, main wale, sheer rail, waste rail, drift rail, fife rail

 
2011-02-15: gun ports

 
2011-02-17: channels, deadeyes

 
2011-02-18: planking above the load water line, platforms, knee of the head, ladder, fenders, chestree

 
2011-02-19: lower cheek, upper cheek

 
2011-02-20: head rails, head timbers, cathead

 
2011-02-21: taffrail, quarter gallery

 
2011-02-22: rudder

 
2011-02-24: gun port lids, sweep ports, scuppers, hammock cranes, swivel guns. The taffrail and the quarter gallery were modified.

making progress. currently I'm busy with another project, but that's due soon, so I hope I'll gain some speed...
 
cheers!
Denis
 

that last post got me thinking, what if we could see how this ship would look like in full size? I've quickly set up a scene in a video game creation software called Unreal Engine 4. in it I can move the camera around as if I'm walking right next to the frames. the camera height is about 1.65m (cca 5.4 feet) which is exactly my eye height, so you have some reference about the size. ;-))

ok, aft kant frames done! as you can see from images, half-breadth framing plan isn't really aligned with profile plan. I've cut straight lines looking from top, which doesn't look good when viewed on profile plan. that's how I figured I'll need to do the drafting back then. I just hope I did it right. quick cross-checking the deck plans with finished hull shell showed that I managed to get it pretty close. I hope it'll all be well once I get to building the decks…
 

 
 
and, this is the point where I am at right now. next I'll do hawse piece and fore cant frames. I hope you'll find this build interesting as well as the other ones. I know this isn't the real deal, and I guess many of you have already noticed tons of errors. since this is my learning build feel free to point each and every one of them should you wish so. the more I learn now the better the next one will be. thanks and stay tuned for more...

I'll use ppddry's method he used for his solidworks build, I'll make hull shell from which I'll cut frames. if I had framing plan with all frames drafted I would have done it that way but this method will have to work for now…
 
tracing the scanned plans:


 
 
finished drafting:

I begun with the keel assembly by tracing plan and making individual pieces. that was straightforward enough. although I see now I'll have to make some adjustments to the wood that holds that vertical pieces that hold transom (yeah, there'll be a lot of such wording until I pick up all of the naming, LOL) and cut wood above the rabbet for the frames.
 
it is at this point I became aware I'll need to do some drafting to be able to create frames, as framing plans weren't aligned good enough and guesswork is something I would like to avoid, otherwise everything else won't fit inside the hull. I've read through drafting instructions manual found in article database and was again blown away by amount of work that goes into model ship building. (really, kudos to all of you for your patience and persistence!!) since I don't own CAD software I figured why not doing it right in Blender. at least I won't have to worry about aligning body, half breadth and profile plans on a 2d plane like in AutoCAD. in Blender it'll be done in 3D right away.
 

hi all!
my name is Denis and I'm a 3D modeler from Croatia. I stumbled upon this forum while searching for some plans of a 17th/18th century sail ship, for that has been on my to-do list for quite some time now. it is little to say I was floored to see such craftsmanship on display in various build logs. some works border on magic and witchcraft, and I've seen a lot of those in CG community. seeing it be done for real I was stunned! what made the strongest impact are POF scratch builds. after I saw that, there was no way in hell to go back to initial idea of modeling a simple hull shell, sticking a wood texture onto it, putting some rods to act as masts and calling it done. no, now I have to do something alike. 
 
after searching for some good scanned plans I found HMS Pandora ones to be good enough for a first try (yeah, I hope there'll be more ships after this one. if I don't burn out in process, that is). and yes, I'm aware that there are a few more Pandora 3D builds, something I found out while searching for some pictures and references. my initial idea was to start with a 74 gun ship (really impressive piece of work). but thankfully I came to my senses soon enough and decided to start with something smaller for starters. "smaller" being used very loosely as Pandora also has tons of details, only less cannons to rig... :-D and those other Pandora 3D builds are going to be used as a good references until I get my bearings in shipbuilding, as this is a whole new world for me. 
 
I've already spent more than a month looking through various topics and posts every day collecting informations, getting to know terms and techniques. as if that wasn't enough I also had to learn how to draft plans, something I never thought I'll need while doing 3d modeling. and I haven't even started doing modeling at that point yet... :-)) I've never been so invested in a single model before, even before actual modeling. as a kid I had built several airplane scale models and enjoyed it very much. sadly, I don't have space, tools nor funds to start this shipbuilding endeavor for real. but I do have kids who would trip over it, I'm sure :-)). so the next best thing for me is doing modeling on a computer…
 
my tool of choice when modeling is concerned is Blender 3D, free open source software that is really powerful and more than capable contending with big guys like 3DS Max, Maya, Cinema 4D and such… I hope I didn't bother you much with this long intro, in the next few posts I'm going to show what I've done so far. considering this is a 3D model, and my first build, I guess there'll be a lot of errors due to inexperience and I'll be probably cutting some corners here and there due to nature of the medium, but I'll try to be as precise as possible. fingers crossed I follow this through the end… let's get started!

For those of you curious about how an actual rudder was constructed, our resident 3D guru, Denis, has prepared these renderings for our Swan class model. These tabled joints would be very difficult to emulate on model (please give it a go Mark!) and virtually impossible to see unless you could actually visualize both sides of the rudder at the same time. When completed our 3D Swan class ship will offer a more complete (and historically accurate) treatise on contemporary ship building than the AOS series.

 

hi all!
 
now that cat's out of the bag I can make an appearance here . David and Greg have contacted me after seeing my work on Pandora and have given me the opportunity to create 3D build log of their swan class ship. it's been an awesome experience and I've learned a lot in these few months. also big thanks to both of them for having patience with my inexperience and oh-my-god-can't-believe-he-just-asked-that questions... 
 
Danny, a big thank you is in order for you too. I'm using your build log as one of the references when I get stuck.  so it's the other way around, haha!
 
 
Wayne, as with Pandora I'm using Blender, free modeling tool. unfortunately no drawing and BIM export option, as it's not a CAD program but a general purpose one.
my computer is (now ageing) Core i7 4770k paired with Nvidia GTX770. would really like to nail new GTX1080 though. rendering on GPU literally flies but I could use more powerful one now that the model is becoming more complex...
 
also big thx to all of you for nice comments. glad you like the pics ;-)
 

True that, Danny. Most of the features on the platforms and lower deck are not visible in our finished models. How cool would it be to show the photo below and say "this is what my magazine looks like"?

Denis has been busy building our 3D Swan class ship. It's very exciting when it all comes together, for example the aft platform view below from the main deck (photo below). When paired with The Fully Framed Model series of books I don't believe there will be another more thoroughly researched and illustrated ship model reference available.
 
 

Hi Greg - Like Wayne I would be very interested in knowing which program your very talented 3D computer modeler is using - Not so much for the rendering - but the program he is using to construct the model itself. The reason being that some programs such as Solidworks and other upper end programs automatically produce a cutting list or Bill of Materials which for myself and I'm sure most of the members would prove an invaluable tool to calculate their total timber order or group different parts of the same thickness lumber which they may have available while waiting for an order etc.
Programs like solidworks  and others can calculate any size stage giving the totals of the varying thicknesses which make up the total along with individual or total weights and costs for the various materials selected for the Build. I understand that a practiced user can lay out the individual parts into a sketch plan to minimise wastage similar to a cnc cutting program.
Cheers Pete

I could tell you Wayne...but then I'd have to kill you! Seriously, our renderings are being done by a very talented individual in Europe. I have no idea what software or computer he uses and wouldn't understand even if he told me. But I honestly can't tell whether the photo below is his rendering or my model.
 

 
 

I know what you mean, Danny. Remember that wicked sternpost and aft rabbet transition? David's illustrations were awesome but how helpful would these photos have been!
 

Admiralty Models has been working with a very talented 3D computer modeler who is building us a Swan class ship model (Pegasus). Besides the exceptional quality of his work, I can see the enormous benefit of a 3D model in showing how all the various pieces fit together. As the model's construction closely follows the actual vessel, it's build may be viewed in sequential layers. Our builder is precisely following the four volume Fully Framed Ship Model series of books, bringing David Antscherl's seminal work to life. In the near future, we will be offering the fully framed and fitted out computer model to those in the process of building a Swan  class model or are contemplating building one. Between the Swan books and computer images I believe we will have the most comprehensive instructions and photos available for  building a fully framed ship model. Stay tuned!

Hey everyone,  I  finished up shading the rest of the guns. Then glued them into the the ship. 
 
Alot of them didn't  fit so I had to file the holes till they fit. 

 It's hard to get all six guns in the same photo but here are a few photos. Up next, odds and ends then the veteran models gun kits I bought as an upgrade. 

 

My first ever Attempt at stretching sprue.  Im Not sure if I did it right.