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Hi, sorry I disappeared for a while, Christmas and a few things going on at home has slowed me a bit, the eyelets for the cannon have been a nuisance too and I seem to be going nowhere fast. I have a little bit of work left to do on the cannons and then I will fit them, pics soon I hope
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Thanks Tony, payday tomorrow so I think I will invest.
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Excuse the dark picture was a little bit dark on Sunday. I have started making up some of the furnishings, I loved making up the deck gratings. I washed them in some diluted PVA once I had put them together and it seemed to work well. The cutting to shape I found a little tricky (must Invest in some more tools). I would have liked to arc them slightly but I will save this for next time. The companionway made up fairly easily, I think on a second model I would have Invested a little in some nicer handles and hinges but overall I am fairly pleased. Getting used to cutting, sanding and drilling, seem to be getting a little bit more confident. Flicked ahead in the Instructions and had a little look at the Bowsprit. How on earth I am going to shape it without a lathe at the moment is beyond me and if I had a lathe I wouldnt know how to use it! The Instructions also make no mention of rigging the cannons so I need to research the rigging and work out the size of thread I would need and the length. I want to get the Cannons and eyelets in before I start gluing down the furnishings. Thanks for looking in
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Cheers Tony, amazing how resourceful modellers can be. Never thought of rulers! Just looked in on your Sherbourne, it's looking very slick. impressed by your block making.
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Is it me or is Boxwood the ship builders dream material? I will invest in my next build, not to mention research more. This build is all about the learning. PS I'm loving every minute
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Thanks Tony, great advice. I'm through with the kit supplied posts, them coupled with the stern fascia border leads me to think that the laser cutter had a few bevvies before supplying my kit. Still, I do love the kit, it's great for learning (oft times the hard way).
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Rudder was a little tricky, since the kit has been updated to include rudder straps, Amati could do with updating their Instructions. 1mm is too big to go through the rudder straps so I had to do a little bit of chopping and gluing. I was going to let the straps stand out a bit but now they are slightly botched, they have been painted white. The Lady Nelson lettering came out okay. I painted the whole lot black and sanded it with a fine grade paper, I then touched in the yellow Ochre. The Walnut strip round the edge had been laser cut badly and it fell apart on one side, I fashioned a fix from some off-cuts and it doesnt look too bad now. As for the swivel gun posts all I can say is Grrrrrrrr!!! Ive split 3 trying to get a 1.5mm hole through them. I have graded up the drilling but they are so brittle. Probably need sme painting first or something? Next update will be deck furnishing, I have done a little already and for once it is going okay! Concerned by putting a nail through the channels too, I can see some damage on the horizon
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P.S. Ray,that's the same pen I imported!Think you have saved me some cash.Lovely
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Guys this is great stuff and thank you, wished I'd not pre painted now but it's relieved a few frustrations. Love this site
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I did not forsee any issues fitting this but I realise that it doesnt look like a comfortable fit at all. Im wondering if I need to bend this somehow? Or do I need to try and file down until I get the fit? Im a bit baffled as to how to get this on. Any suggestions? Im also confused by the keel, the Instructions suggest using the 1mm wire however at this size it would not fit through the rudder straps? Im a bit stuck!
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It's the crackle! I looked at the second (maybe third) plan and it shows the line so I just measured down from the bulwark. It's best to leave it until the wale and capping rail etc is in. I rushed a little when I was at this stage, I needed to see how it would look as I was close to tears after trying out staining. It turned out alright though, have to be a bit bold.
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By the way my waterline is a bit skewed but okay for first go. Like I said the marking seemed okay but the masking I found difficult. I'm honestly not sure how to help but was lovely spraying on the white. I think an airbrusher would be a real help, I think sheet 2 shows the water line
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Hi Ken, thanks for looking in, funny enough I been looking in to a vintage record player, all this digital nonsense has taken the beauty out of records. I'm going old skool
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Sorry for the lack of updates, I been busy with one thing and another and also I had a set back on the decking. I had so much trouble finding a pen the did not bleed to represent the caulking and realised after completing almost half that it looked pretty ropey. I started again and found a pen that did the job, I looked at the one another member used so I ended up sourcing from the US (hence the delay updating). If anyone knows of a source for a good marker that doesnt bleed in the UK I would really appreciate it. The only thing that Im not so keen on is there is a slight colour difference on the port and starboard sides but I am definately not doing a third time! I have also represented trenails with just a 0.1 fine point pen, I figured it would bleed slightly so I considered this. Im quite pleased with the result but it could use another coat of varnish. The Bulwark capping rails were pretty easy to fit but I could have got them a little straighter. I do have an issue fitting the plate on which the name will rest (sorry cant remember the name) but I will post another update re. this as I have no idea how to fix! Thanks for looking in Holty
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Hi Ken, I was exactly the same, its almost like there is too much Info. In the end I went Bulwark down and I did most reducing by eye as I could not get my head round the measuring etc. As I went along it became obvious how its done but a little too late to do properlly for this build. I knew mine would be painted too so I was concentrating on getting the exposed planks right and the rest as smooth as I could. It is definately a case of learning the hard way, I just took a deep breath and did it the best I could. Good luck, I hope you find it as rewarding as I am, Im already itching to do a second!
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Thanks Thomasl, I am pleased it is helping someone. Its a good record for nostalgia too, will be interesting looking back. Keep me posted how you are getting on
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Thanks David / Tony, I seem to be learning everything the hard way I'm still quite pleased though, perfect kit for learning on I must say. The Waterline is a little lop sided in parts so I may give it a little touch up on one side but yeah its looking alright. Little bit more work on the Inner bulwarks and I can give that a lick of paint too then
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Little more work done over the long weekend and again mixed results. As I mentioned before I wanted to darken the wood "slightly" unfortunately despite testing it came out a bit too dark! At first I was cursing but I decided to paint in the waterline and leave it on my shelf for a few days to see if I could live with it; and yes, I can. Part of the purpose in this build is to try many different things out for use in future models so I am trying not to be too hard on myself. The waterline I am quite pleased with, the masking is the difficult part but it has come out quite neat, I would have waited to do this later in the build but I was concerned about whether it was going to look right. Some of the defects and sloppy work don't seem to be too bad, they almost seem to make it more "ship like" in some ways. Started the inner planking too, I think if was to do this again I would pre-cut the planks as trying to do this afterwards is a total nightmare, us amateurs dont think of splintering until its too late. Lick of paint and a tiny bit of fill though and I think they will be okay. Decking is approaching and I dont have a clue about patterns, where to look?
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Shopping around you can get the kit for £526, so with the £40 tool kit its not too bad really. I didnt realise you could get kit subscriptions, good idea if you lack the money up front. Also, its a good way of sneaking another build in the door, do it a bit at a time
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Hi Folks, Is this for real? It is tempting as this was my planned 3rd model http://shop.deagostini.co.uk/hms-surprise-subscription-28-part-option.html Obviously it works out more money but I think it will be a while before I got a spare 500 quid floating about Marc (Holty)
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Brilliant, thanks all. Bit clearer in my head on the process now.
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Thanks Tony, I heard people mention sanding sealer a few times, it seems to be a popular way to prep the surface. I thought primer might show up the lumps and bumps but I guess that so will a light coat of paint. Need to treat it like the planking and just get on and do it!
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Holty replied to pnevrin's topic in - Kit build logs for subjects built from 1751 - 1800
Hi Per, Have you completed a Lady Nelson and if so are the pics still floating about? I might be wrong but Im sure I recall you doing a build log for a LN. Thanks -
Phew! I went with sharp corners on the gun ports, could probably do with a little tidy up though. Difficult not to file both sides at the same time if you see what I mean, I think it is because my files are serrated on both edges, think emery board might be better cut down the mddle. I will give the filler a whirl this weekend, I think the painting will hide a few sins too. Bit worried about the Wales, need to read a few logs regarding this I think. Also the wood arrived too that I needed but the quality not as good as the kit quality. Ill see how it sands up before I glue it. Might be alright with a lick of paint. I ordered a tub of the Admiralty Walnut Varnish too, I just want to darken it slightly to contrast with the white. There was a build on here from before (by Pnevrin?) where he had used Bison Wax to darken it and it looked really nice next to the white. Is primer a good idea or will it be okay without? Cheers all
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Thanks first of all for the tips and encouragement, Its really appreciated. I have been busy with one thing and another but I have completed second planking. Mixed feelings really, parts went well other parts did not. My advise to myself for next time? Firstly, really learn how to measure properly! I have been reading up on using calipers etc and It makes more sense to me now I have completed this planking. I think I mentioned before It did not make sense to me until I was actually doing it and a little too late to start tearing strips off. Secondly, need to learn more on stealers! I totally winged this and I will need filler on the lower part. Its the "what type to use where bit I struggled with, the beginners guide is brilliant but my brain struggled to get round this. I mentioned before about not setting up correctly using rabbets etc so I wont go over this again. I would like to mention that I don't believe there are sufficient walnut strips included considering it is touted as a "beginners model". I am yet to add the main whale and inner bulwarks and do not have enough so I have a dozen on order. Couple of questions too, do gun ports tend to have rounded corners or are they more straight edged? Any advice on filling, varnishing / possibly staining a little darker? I can definitely see why the planking pros tend to leave the wood exposed, it is rather beautiful
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