42rocker Posted March 20, 2013 Share #1 Posted March 20, 2013 Well the title """HMS Triton History Background Request""" is about it. We have several builds going on and the drawings of the ship but no background info. I'll bet before the site went down there was something. Some info please. Later 42rocker Quote Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete38 Posted March 21, 2013 Share #2 Posted March 21, 2013 As per Wikipedia The Mermaid class frigate were a group of six 28-gun sailing frigates of the sixth rate designed in 1760 by Sir Thomas Slade, based on the scaled-down lines of HMS Aurora (originally a French prize, L'Abenakise, which had been captured in 1757). The contract for the prototype was agreed on 12 May 1760, for a ship to be launched within twelve months, and her name was assigned as Mermaid on 28 October 1760. The contract for the second ship was agreed on 10 March 1762, for a ship to be launched within thirteen months, and the contract for the third ship was agreed on 2 April 1762, for a ship to be launched within fourteen months; both names were assigned on 30 April 1763. Some ten years after the design was first produced, it was re-used for a second batch of three ships which were ordered on Christmas Day, 1770 during the dispute with Spain over the ownership of the Falkland Islands. While the design differences from the first batch were minor (the keel was a few inches longer), the second batch were normally designated the Modified Mermaid class. Triton Ordered: 25 December 1770 Built by: Henry Adams, Bucklers Hard. Keel laid: February 1771 Launched: 1 October 1773 Completed: 15 October 1773 to 4 November 1775 at Portsmouth Dockyard. Fate: Taken to pieces at Deptford Dockyard in January 1796. Quote Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted March 21, 2013 Share #3 Posted March 21, 2013 The Triton was a 28 gun frigate launched in 1773. The ship was part of a group of three frigates that were a modified version of the Mermaid class, designed by Thomas Slade in 1760. Slade created the modified design in 1770, shortly before his death in 1771. The three frigates in that second group were Triton, Boreas, and Greyhound. Triton was built at Henry Adams' shipyard at Buckler's Hard. The keel was laid in 1771, she was launched on October 1, 1773, and she began fitting on October 15, 1773. She sailed for the North American colonies in 1776. In 1778, she captured a privateer named Pompey. She returned to England in 1779 for refitting and coppering. She also had carronades added at that time. Later that year she took another privateer, Gates. She was present at the Battle of St. Vincent of 1780, as well as the Battle of the Saintes in 1782. She underwent a Great Repair in 1783-84 and spent the early 1790s in the Caribbean. She was broken up in 1796. Russ the learner 1 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42rocker Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share #4 Posted March 21, 2013 I have heard that she was in a group of ships that included the HMS Warrior. Anything on this? Pete38 and russ Thanks for those facts. Does anyone know if the log is still out there? Any great tales or anything else? Later 42rocker Quote Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted March 21, 2013 Share #5 Posted March 21, 2013 Warrior was a 74 gun ship. Totally different type of ship. The British Public Records Office will have Triton's logbooks. I did not choose Triton for her colorful career. Indeed, the main things behind my choosing this ship was 1) she is a beautiful frigate, 2) designed by Thomas Slade and 3) there is a complete "as launched" draught of her, complete with carved details and figurehead, as well as a framing plan for Greyhound, and deck plans for the class. I went with a ship that good source material with which to build a model. Russ mtaylor 1 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42rocker Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share #6 Posted March 21, 2013 Well just found this Triton, 1773Type: ; Armament 28Launched : 1773 ; Disposal date or year : 1796Disposal Details : BUNotes:1782 Rodney's victory over French under Comte de Grasse from http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/18-1900/T/04887.html has 4 different Triton's listed. home page listing -- note this site has lots of ships listed. http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/18-1900/Index.html More that I found HMS Triton was a modified Mermaid-class sixth-rate frigate of the Royal Navy. She was first commissioned in August 1775 under Captain Skeffington Lutwidge. Notes References Robert Gardiner, The First Frigates, Conway Maritime Press, London 1992. ISBN 0-85177-601-9. David Lyon, The Sailing Navy List, Conway Maritime Press, London 1993. ISBN 0-85177-617-5. Rif Winfield, British Warships in the Age of Sail, 1714 to 1792, Seaforth Publishing, London 2007. ISBN 978-1-84415-700-6. Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/hms-triton-1773#ixzz2O8aQIhBC MORE ==================== Name: HMS Triton Ordered: 25 December 1770 Builder: Henry Adams, Bucklers Hard Laid down: February 1771 Launched: 1 October 1773 Completed: 4 November 1775 at Portsmouth Dockyard Commissioned: August 1775 Fate: Taken to pieces at Deptford in January 1796 General characteristics Class & type: Modified Mermaid-class frigate Displacement: 620 21⁄94 (bm) Length: 124 ft 1 in (37.82 m) (gundeck) 103 ft 4.625 in (31.51188 m) (keel) Beam: 33 ft 7 in (10.24 m) Sail plan: Full-rigged ship Complement: 200 officers and men Armament: 28 guns comprising Upper deck: 24 × 9-pounder cannon Quarterdeck 4 × 3-pounder cannon 12 swivels. more HMS Triton was a 28-gun sixth-rate frigate launched in 1771. She served with Rear Admiral Sir Samuel Hood's fleet off Nevis on 25 January 1782. She was broken up in 1796. Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/hms-triton#ixzz2O8bBUXP4 Hope we can find more info. Later 42rocker Quote Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42rocker Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share #7 Posted March 21, 2013 Russ You made your post as I was out there looking for more. Yes the HMS Warrior is totally different, as I was told that both were in a convoy together and was not sure if a fact or not. As far as HMS Warrior's go my wife and I have had the pleasure of being on and taking a tour of the HMS Warrior while in Portsmouth. 1st of Great Britain's line of iron clad steam ships. Of course the HMS Warrior that I was talking about was the one before the ironclad one. A very interesting ship that you picked out to model and share with the plans of, with us. Many Thanks. From the line drawings that I've seen she has fine lines to her. As far as history goes I'm always interested in the background of things. Thanks to everyone. Later 42rocker Quote Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted March 21, 2013 Share #8 Posted March 21, 2013 The basic information on her dimensions and armament, as well as changes over the years, can be found in Gardiner's The First Frigates. Slade was one of the more innovative designers of his time.It was what attracted me to this design at first. He also designed the Niger/Alarm class of which Winchelsea is a member. That is the ship that Chuck is modeling. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnobiumPunctatum Posted March 21, 2013 Share #9 Posted March 21, 2013 For her career you can also look in Winfield:"British Warships in the Age of Sail 1714 - 1792)" The first three ships of the class were HMS Mermaid, HMS Hussar und HMS Solebay after a design of Th. Slade from the early 1760th. After a redesign of the lower hull there were built three other vessels of the class: HMS Greyhound, HMS Triton und HMS Boreas in the early 1770ths. Quote Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42rocker Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share #10 Posted March 21, 2013 More info.. Thanks everyone.. Later 42rocker Quote Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted March 21, 2013 Share #11 Posted March 21, 2013 I got her operational history from Winfield's book. As for her altered underbody design, this was one of Slade's little habits. He was quite often trying to improve on a successful design. He tried this with several frigate designs with varyng degrees of success. By most accounts, the second group of Mermaids was not as successful as the first. They were average to good sailers, but the original Mermaid class had better overall sailing qualities. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the learner Posted April 1, 2013 Share #12 Posted April 1, 2013 a facinating bit of information on the Triton...good motivation for the build and Russ you say that there are complete "as launched" draughts available and also a set the carving details and figurehead, as well as a framing plan for Greyhound, and deck plans for this class? Quote Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted April 1, 2013 Share #13 Posted April 1, 2013 Guy: Yes, those drawings are what we used in developing the plans for this build. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the learner Posted April 3, 2013 Share #14 Posted April 3, 2013 Do ;I need to order a set or wil enough information be provided in the build> Quote Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted April 3, 2013 Share #15 Posted April 3, 2013 Everything you need should be in the drawings that were created for this build. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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