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I am about to plan and start a scratch build of the double hull Polyenesian canoe Holukea. I am gathering input from any of you master wood carvers on which would look better & be the easiest to carve?

 

I have a lot of 100 year old Cypress that was dragged up from a local bayou and may be to soft??, and also have some beautiful Red Mahogany (which is hard as a rock. I waffled between Pine and Fir and was going to paint the hull. After much consideration felt a truer representation of a natural look would be better since they were carved from Koa logs.

 

All suggestions welcome Hope I don't get demerits for posting under wood instead of builds.

 

Thanks John

 

John Allen

 

Current builds HMS Victory-Mamoli

On deck

USS Tecumseh, CSS Hunley scratch build, Double hull Polynesian canoe (Holakea) scratch build

 

Finished

Waka Taua Maori War Canoe, Armed Launch-Panart, Diligence English Revenue Cutter-Marine  Model Co. 


 

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Koa is a beautiful strongly figured wood that is mostly brown.  However the color can vary between light brown to deep red/brown.  Cypress and mahogany are probably to coarse grained to give the right look at a smaller scale.  You might want to consider a finer grained wood and use a dilute mahogany stain to get the color right.  the harder types of basswood or poplar might be good choices or possibly birch.  Another way would be to use koa (it is available mail order from Kamuela Woods in Waimea, Hawaii).  The grain would still be to coarse but the use of the original wood would look really cool.

My advice and comments are always worth what you paid for them.

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Reference to a "local bayou"  -  if you are in the US Gulf Coast region -  there are 2 local species that are excellent for carving - low weight, fine grain,  closed pore,  take well to aniline dyes and glue =  Tupelo and Yellow Poplar.   If you have a local saw mill that mills it, perhaps you can purchase end cuttings  or raw planks at a low cost - if you have the tools to work it.  Black Cherry also carves well and is usually a low end domestic as far as cost,

 

The Red Mahogany and  Cypress are better suited for building the display case for the model.

NRG member 50 years

 

Current:  

NMS

HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error

HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing

HMS Beagle 1831 refiit  10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing

The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842
Flying Fish 1838  pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers
Porpose II  1836  brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Vincennes  1825  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers assembled, need shaping
Peacock  1828  Sloop-of -War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Sea Gull  1838  pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly
Relief  1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly

Other

Portsmouth  1843  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Le Commerce de Marseilles  1788   118 cannons - POF framed

La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers

 

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grsjx,

 

Thanks for the reply this is what is great about MSW its like model building DIY encyclopedia for dummies (no inference to users I include myself in that group) except its on the internet. Someone always has an  answer. 

 

I appreciate the link for Koa wood, and advice. 

 

Thanks John

John Allen

 

Current builds HMS Victory-Mamoli

On deck

USS Tecumseh, CSS Hunley scratch build, Double hull Polynesian canoe (Holakea) scratch build

 

Finished

Waka Taua Maori War Canoe, Armed Launch-Panart, Diligence English Revenue Cutter-Marine  Model Co. 


 

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Jaager,

 

Thanks for your advice Poplar is easy to obtain. Tupelo is as pricey as boxwood. I will be using 2x4x33 to 36 both basswood and tupelo are to pricey in these lengths.

 

Will have to mull over what would be best.

 

Thanks

 

John

John Allen

 

Current builds HMS Victory-Mamoli

On deck

USS Tecumseh, CSS Hunley scratch build, Double hull Polynesian canoe (Holakea) scratch build

 

Finished

Waka Taua Maori War Canoe, Armed Launch-Panart, Diligence English Revenue Cutter-Marine  Model Co. 


 

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