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Does pre-staining wood with something like Minwax prior to assembly have any effect on the efficacy of normal wood (carpenter's) glue?

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A wood dye should have no effect on a PVA bond.  A stain is a surface coat - similar to paint - it would depend on the specific product  - but there is a chance that a bond may fail because the stain seals the wood pores and blocks penetration of the glue polymers.

 

Your best bet is to do the experiment on scrap wood and determine the effect.  The stain manufacturer could have altered the formulation and if someone had an answer from years ago, it may not apply to your situation.

NRG member 50 years

 

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HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error

HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing

HMS Beagle 1831 refiit  10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing

The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842
Flying Fish 1838  pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers
Porpose II  1836  brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Vincennes  1825  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers assembled, need shaping
Peacock  1828  Sloop-of -War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Sea Gull  1838  pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly
Relief  1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly

Other

Portsmouth  1843  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Le Commerce de Marseilles  1788   118 cannons - POF framed

La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers

 

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My experience is that solvent based stains result in weaker joints over extended time. I have had great results using a water based with strong joints with both the PVA glues as well as super glue. Also a quicker assembly time due to quicker drying timers of the water based stains. Just my two cents.

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Ken

Current build: Maersk Detroit"
Future builds:  Mamoli HMS Victory 1:90
Completed builds: US Brig Niagara, Dirty Dozen, USS Constitution, 18th Century Armed Longboat
https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/11935-uss-constitution-by-xken-model-shipways-scale-1768/

 

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