Guest Posted August 17, 2016 #1 Posted August 17, 2016 Does pre-staining wood with something like Minwax prior to assembly have any effect on the efficacy of normal wood (carpenter's) glue?
Jaager Posted August 18, 2016 #2 Posted August 18, 2016 A wood dye should have no effect on a PVA bond. A stain is a surface coat - similar to paint - it would depend on the specific product - but there is a chance that a bond may fail because the stain seals the wood pores and blocks penetration of the glue polymers. Your best bet is to do the experiment on scrap wood and determine the effect. The stain manufacturer could have altered the formulation and if someone had an answer from years ago, it may not apply to your situation. thibaultron, mtaylor and src 3 NRG member 50 years Current: NMS HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing HMS Beagle 1831 refiit 10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842 Flying Fish 1838 pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers Porpose II 1836 brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Vincennes 1825 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers assembled, need shaping Peacock 1828 Sloop-of -War - POF timbers ready for assembly Sea Gull 1838 pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly Relief 1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly Other Portsmouth 1843 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers ready for assembly Le Commerce de Marseilles 1788 118 cannons - POF framed La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
xken Posted August 19, 2016 #3 Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) My experience is that solvent based stains result in weaker joints over extended time. I have had great results using a water based with strong joints with both the PVA glues as well as super glue. Also a quicker assembly time due to quicker drying timers of the water based stains. Just my two cents. Edited August 19, 2016 by xken thibaultron, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Ken Current build: Maersk Detroit" Future builds: Mamoli HMS Victory 1:90 Completed builds: US Brig Niagara, Dirty Dozen, USS Constitution, 18th Century Armed Longboat https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/11935-uss-constitution-by-xken-model-shipways-scale-1768/
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