Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted (edited)

A chatter groove was added to the trailing vertical end of the rudder to eliminate chatter felt back through to the steering mechanism due to flow turbulence in the water at the sharp change or loss of shape of the rudder.

 

I have seen some models with the chatter groove in the rudder.

I have seen models with plating wrapping around the rudder (over any chatter groove).

 

Did the copper plating conform to the profiled recess of the chatter groove, or was it no longer necessary because of the copper plating?

chatter groove.JPG

chatter groove 2.JPG

Edited by AON

Alan O'Neill
"only dead fish go with the flow"   :dancetl6:

Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class

Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014)

Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021)

Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)

Posted

Yes she was a replica with auxiliary power.

 

So copper plating formed into the groove.

Alan O'Neill
"only dead fish go with the flow"   :dancetl6:

Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class

Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014)

Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021)

Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted (edited)

It is documented on british ships in several models and drawings/paintings. But no clue to me if used in real life or not, as other models and drawings of the same time omit it. Perhaps a fashion or test?

 

In opposition to french ships, the english ships had rudders that were more slimmed towards the aft edge. Perhaps this had the same effect.

 

As for my Vic of 1803 I decided not to show the groove as the contemporary rudder of the St George lost in 1811 in Thorsminde does not have one.

 

 

f423t777p147394n6_ioXwaRGz.jpg

XXXDAn

 

 

https://strandingsmuseet.dk/en/a-sneak-peek-of-the-exhibition/

 

Edited by dafi

To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/

See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/

Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits.

http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...