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I have just impulse-purchased a length of lancewood because I understand it is desirable for masts and spars. Then the questions began to bubble to the surface.

(A) Is that correct, it is good for masts and spars?

(B) What is the quality that makes it better in that application? 

(C) Does it have any pros & cons I should know about?

 

My piece was obtained from a luthiers' supplier and I believe is sapwood. The application I have in mind is masts and spars, possibly cap rails? and the masts will have an octagonal section visible.

Thanks in advance.

Bruce

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A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin

current builds:

HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style

Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild 

French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold

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The books covering "how to" for ship modeling from before 1970 list Lancewood as one of the preferred species for spars.  Another species is Degame.   I do not recall Buxus simpervirens (Boxwood) being listed as being especially favored for spars.   For Lancewood and Degame,  splitting spar stock out of the plank along the grain would be the way to help prevent any bending or dog leg crooks over time. 

 

For any part of a hull, any of the three would be a superior species,  if POF is the method under discussion.  The problem being that all three have been all but impossible to obtain for about 70 years or so.   I suspect that even if Lancewood was available as 4x4 or 8x4 stock, the cost for 10-20 BF needed for frames, clamps, hooks, and beams would be a bit prohibitive.   But, I wonder if this new post Covid economy is going to affect most other species to drive the price up?  Now may be similarly seen as a golden age of missed opportunity for even our more limited choices when viewed from a time not all that far into the future?

 

 

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Current:  

NMS

HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error

HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing

HMS Beagle 1831 refiit  10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing

The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842
Flying Fish 1838  pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers
Porpose II  1836  brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Vincennes  1825  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers assembled, need shaping
Peacock  1828  Sloop-of -War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Sea Gull  1838  pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly
Relief  1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly

Other

Portsmouth  1843  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Le Commerce de Marseilles  1788   118 cannons - POF framed

La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers

 

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13 minutes ago, Jaager said:

The problem being that all three have been all but impossible to obtain for about 70 years or so.

I am lucky enough to have Timberline a few miles away. They have lancewood, lime, English lime and Castello on the shelf plus plenty of others. 

I didn't have the opportunity to discuss their sources in detail but know from the past that they only deal in 'legit' wood. 

Back to lancewood, thanks Vaddoc, I find the wood database to be compulsive reading 👍. It mentioned good turning properties but in this hobby we all know there is always more to the story. 

Thanks 

Bruce 

 

 

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STAY SAFE

 

A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin

current builds:

HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style

Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild 

French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold

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