64Pacific Posted May 3 #1 Posted May 3 (edited) Hello all, I am not certain if this is the correct place for such a query, apologies if it is not. I've recently purchased a nice copy of the aforementioned publication, specifically the 1961 edition. On the dust jacket it is noted that there are "drawings and complete working plans for Clipper Ship, a...". In flipping through this book I've seen a lot of nice sketches and drawings but no working plans, or what I would consider working plans. While the book looks complete I am wondering if, or where, in the book one finds these working plans? As an example, on page 285 the book notes under the brief section of "The Monitor and The Merrimac - Folded Plan" but there are no folded plans... Thanks! Edited May 3 by 64Pacific Archi, mtaylor and Scottish Guy 2 1 Quote Scott - British Columbia, Canada. Current build: Malaspina Straits - Plastic tug scratch build
allanyed Posted May 3 #2 Posted May 3 Scott Have you followed Ed Tosti's build log on the clipper Young America here at MSW? https://modelshipworld.com/topic/10678-young-america-1853-by-edt-finished-196-pob-extreme-clipper/#comment-322547 If you are interested in that build Ed drew all the plans and authored a three volume set of books available from Seawatch Books. https://seawatchbooks.com/collections/edward-j-tosti Allan Scottish Guy 1 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU
Jaager Posted May 3 #3 Posted May 3 The 3rd edition that I have has two foldout sheets - not all that large. They are not what I would call plans, never mind "working plans". The missing plans are no loss. The book itself was bush league in its time. The S.I. sells 1/4" scale copies of the plans in Chapelle's books. There is a fair selection of 1850's clipper ships. The site with downloads of the plans from Wm Webb's Folio has lines and mast/sail plans for Black Hawk - Challenge - Comet - Flying Dutchman - Gazelle - Swordfish - Young America https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36455-ship-plan-sources-william-h-webb-plans-and-a-japanese-topsail-schooner/ The clippers were about as large as a wooden sailing vessel could be. This puts them in an unfortunate situation. A model with a scale large enough to include detail is also one that will take over the room that it is in. A model whose size is one that you can live with will require miniaturist skills. See the work of @rwiederrich in the scratch section for a view of what is involved. Scottish Guy, JpR62, mtaylor and 1 other 3 1 Quote NRG member 50 years Current: NMS HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing HMS Beagle 1831 refiit 10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842 Flying Fish 1838 pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers Porpose II 1836 brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Vincennes 1825 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers assembled, need shaping Peacock 1828 Sloop-of -War - POF timbers ready for assembly Sea Gull 1838 pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly Relief 1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly Other Portsmouth 1843 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers ready for assembly Le Commerce de Marseilles 1788 118 cannons - POF framed La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
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