1/200 scale rivets

[Olaf]

Hi guys. I will need to in the future make rivets on small 1/200 AA ship guns. Is anything what I can use for riveting ( making rivets) with so small scale? Thank you for help in advance. I found this tool but I don’t know if size 0,2 mm will be not to big?

 

 

 

 

[wefalck]

There is no 'scale' for rivets, only size. So the question is how big on the prototype would these rivets be?

 

Second question: what type of rivet? There are many ways in which rivetting and forming their heads can be performed: half round, countersunk (barely visible on a model), half countersunk, flush (which then would be invisible on the model), hollow rivets, etc. 

 

So a picture of the prototype you want to achieve would be needed to give you informed advice.

 

I would, however, suspect that rivets in 1/200 scale on AA gun mounts would be rather small, with heads of a diameter somewhere around 20 mm max. This means, that in at a 1/200 scale we are talking of diameters of less than 0.1 mm. Assuming that we are talking of half-round heads, the only practical way would be tiny (really tiny) blobs of paint or white glue. It would be a challenge to achieve consistent sizes. In summary, I think I wouldn't bother.

 

The tool you showed, although I don't know it, seems to be the kind used by aircraft modellers to indicate flush rivets by slightly marking the surface. This is not what you (presumably) need and the resulting marks would be grossly overscale anyway.

[Olaf]

On 6/8/2024 at 5:51 PM, wefalck said:

There is no 'scale' for rivets, only size. So the question is how big on the prototype would these rivets be?

 

Second question: what type of rivet? There are many ways in which rivetting and forming their heads can be performed: half round, countersunk (barely visible on a model), half countersunk, flush (which then would be invisible on the model), hollow rivets, etc. 

 

So a picture of the prototype you want to achieve would be needed to give you informed advice.

 

I would, however, suspect that rivets in 1/200 scale on AA gun mounts would be rather small, with heads of a diameter somewhere around 20 mm max. This means, that in at a 1/200 scale we are talking of diameters of less than 0.1 mm. Assuming that we are talking of half-round heads, the only practical way would be tiny (really tiny) blobs of paint or white glue. It would be a challenge to achieve consistent sizes. In summary, I think I wouldn't bother.

 

The tool you showed, although I don't know it, seems to be the kind used by aircraft modellers to indicate flush rivets by slightly marking the surface. This is not what you (presumably) need and the resulting marks would be grossly overscale anyway.

Thank you for your advice and informations. It was very useful lesson for me 🙂. You are right. This rivets can be almost invisible in this scale.

[64Pacific]

I maybe really late to the party but they make decals for rivets and weld beads. Check out these guys, I've got nothing to do with the websites:

 

https://www.ultracast.ca/Rivet-Surface-Detail-Decals-s/1052.htm

 

Also check out Archer Transfers, they have weld, rivet and texture decals...

 

https://www.archertransfers.com/

 

I've never tried any of these but want to now that reading this thread has me thinking about...

 

For 1/200 scale, N scale will be very close at 1/220...

 

 

 

 

Edited Saturday at 06:19 AM by 64Pacific
Typos and additional information

[wefalck]

N.B.: N-scale is 1/160 (1/150 in the UK) and 1/220 is Z-scale.