Statenjacht 1678 by rcweir - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50

[rcweir]

I'm especially excited about building this kit: since I was a kid I've dreamed of making models of two 17th Dutch vessels:   a statenjacht and a fluyt.  Thanks to Kolderstok, those dreams now have a realistic chance of becoming reality.    This statenjacht kit is the first step and it's gotten off to a good start this weekend.

 

There are several build logs available, and they will help guide me:  on MSW, there's Melissa T.'s nice build -

 

And there's an excellent, highly detailed log on the Dutch forum by pietsan.    The logs are very helpful - the kit instructions tend to be on the terse side - so the logs help to illuminate the inevitable questions about what goes where, when.

 

The kit comes with sails, which I plan to use, and a large array of resin castings.   I got my kit in 2019 (an Xmas gift from the admiral).  Kolderstok subsequently upgraded those castings and *Hans* (the owner of Kolderstok and designer of this kit) graciously sent me all the upgraded fittings.  (So I've been rewarded for dilly dallying for 6 years.)

 

Here are some photos of what came with the kit.

 

 

Not shown are the upgraded castings (I'll try to get them into the next post), the nice oak display stand (available as an extra), and the paint set.   I used Kolderstok's paint on the Pinas build,  and liked them:  they're good colors and apply nicely.

 

My next post will show the work that's underway now.

 

Thanks for looking,

Bob

[Baker]

Good luck, i follow. 

 

Another statenjacht build

https://www.modelbouwforum.nl/threads/statenjacht-ad-1678-hans-groenenberg.293584/

Edited September 22 by Baker

[Olli Sukunimisson]

Cool - cool - cool! I don’t have a chance not to follow.  

[rcweir]

I've made some progress over the past three days.   The first three pictures are part of my "unboxing" images that I missed the first time around - they're the resin castings and a set of laser cut decorations.   The castings don't photograph well, but I think they'll look great all painted up.   I also think it will be a challenge to figure out where they all go.

 

The first real work is to assemble the frames  (all but the last one, #12).   Which is done in the usual way.  For the first time I used lego blocks to help ensure the frames were square to the keel.

 

 

After the frames (probably I should call them bulkheads) are glued in, subdecks for two cabins are added.  The cabin rooms will be visible to some degree, so the spaces need to be planked, at least.   Plus there's a fancy fireplace in the casting set for the forward room.   Since I have a supply of fancy veneers on hand,  I'm thinking I will try to use some of fitting out those rooms.   Fancy a deck of curly mahogany with satinwood wall panelling?  At any rate,  while I'm not sure any of this will ever be seen again,  I do intend to try to make those rooms look good.

Most of the edges of those decks aren't well supported,  so I added stiffeners around the perimeters to all the places where it was missing.

I also put in stiffeners on the false keel between frames 4 & 5 and 8 & 9 because that's where the fastening screws are ultimately going to go when I mount the model on a display base.  You can see them in the photo above. The stiffeners between 4 & 5 also serve to enclose the mast step, which is  called for in the instructions.

 

That's all for now.    The next posting is going to be just about fairing the hull, but I don't have time right this minute to concentrate on the writeup (I can smell the pork chops, and they're almost ready!)

 

Thanks for looking,

Bob

 

 

Edited September 24 by rcweir
spellos and more spellos.

[Ronald-V]

Have fun with your new kit! I'm curious how it's going to look with the new resin castings  

[ccoyle]

The new trim options look like nice additions.

[rcweir]

I'm hopping around on the model right now; there are a number of isolated tasks whose order doesn't depend on each other.   This post is only about the start of fairing the hull, i.e. the bow and forward four bulkheads.   I found the instructions and the various web logs ambiguous on exactly how the area right at the bow ought to be prepared,  yet it's absolutely critical to the planking that one gets this right.   Or so I believe right now.   The instructions discuss fairing and planking later than I am in the work, but I decided to start early to minimize the possibility of banging something else up with all the rough handling that the hull is sure to get.   

 

Instructions call for balsa filler only right at the bow, forward of bulkhead #1.   But, after studying other logs, I decided to put in balsa starting at bulkhead #3.   I also put in some aft, between frames #10 and #11, but that's probably not necessary - what I really meant to do (and have now done) is to add balsa aft of #11, between it and the not-yet-installed transom #12.

 

I also decided  to add temporary stiffeners on the bulwark ears of bulkheads #1, 2, 3 and 11.   It will be easy to remove them later, and those ears get their share of stresses during the fairing.

All of the fairing work I've done so far involves only the area between the bow and bulkhead #4.  The stern can't be done until bulkhead #12 is installed.  And the midships in between ought to be simple and straightforward.

 

One caveat which I hope is obvious:   it's not a given that the way I'm going about this is the "right" way.  Time will tell.  The next several photos are pretty repetitive, but I want to give future builders of this kit clear visual information about how I'm going about it.  My plan is to leave space for a ~1.6mm rabbet (i.e. the plank thickness).   On top of the 6.5mm false keel in the pictures will be attached an 8.3 mm walnut keel.   I am undecided as to whether the keel ought to be attached before I start planking, or not.    The instructions don't do so,  but at least one build log (a good one) does.    Nobody talks specifically about the rabbet, and the discussions usually go no farther than to make general statements about the shape being tough to plank.

 

Here are my photos showing how I've done the fairing.

In this last photo I'm holding a plank to show how it sits against the false keel. 

 

My tools for the fairing shown, incidentally, are all rasps.  The red lines on the bulkheads are to make it clear when I'm sawing away where the margins are.

 

That's enough for now.   I'm also actively working on planking the transform (bulkhead #12) as well as fitting out the interior cabins.   

 

Thanks for looking,

Bob

Edited September 27 by rcweir
editing

[Melissa T.]

Looking great, Bob! I spent nearly a year on this kit and learned so much.  Your build log is bringing back a lot of memories!

 

Melissa

[rcweir]

I'm overdue for an update,  but there hasn't been a good point to pause.   Since the last posting, I've mostly been shifting between work on the transom and fitting out the  two lower deck cabins.

 

This post is about work on the transom.   The first task was to glue four brackets at the top of the lower transom that will eventually support the upper one.  Gluing the brackets into position was challenging because there's there's not nothing to hold them in position, and they aren't balanced to just sit in position.   But they have to be located perfectly to support the upper transom (which can help with alignment, but isn't being glued on yet).   After a lot of thought,  I did the following:  tacked the lower transom onto a block of mdf for weight and stability and because the bracket arms are just a wee bit longer than the transom is deep - which is why they hang over the edge of the mdf in the picture below.  Then I glued little sacrificial arms on to the bottom of the brackets so that I could adjust and hold each in position as the glue (Titebond) dried.   With the brackets and transom stable, I could use the upper transom to tweak the brackets after applying glue.   I did the glue up in two steps - first the inner pair and then the outer.

 

You'll see in the photo above that the slots in the upper transom for the outer two brackets are far from square to the brackets,  but I've checked photos in the instructions and several build logs,  and that's just the way it is.   After the glue dried it was trivial to chisel off the basswood brackets.

Once the brackets were on I applied the diagonal walnut planking and then the wale that is above that planking.  (That wale is supposed to be 2 planks thick - I haven't made the upper half yet).   To help me with the planking alignment,  I glued a couple of bassword guides which were later removed.

I have installed that transom, but not until later.

 

[rcweir]

It's been a while since the last post - I've been working away and it's hard to break away from that long enough to put together the post.   This post is about work on the two lower deck cabins.  

But first, I want to draw the attention of future builders to an important structural detail that is easy to overlook.  Discussion of the interior cabins is mostly on pp 2-7 of the instructions, and culminates (almost) with the installation of the spiral staircase. But later, on page 10, there is mention of "a small part" from the 3mm plywood laser cut sheet that goes onto bulkhead 10.  That small part is actually labelled 10, and it's important - it's the aftmost support for deck E (which covers the after cabin).  Since this part 10 is half the thickness of bulkhead 10, that allows the after portion of bulkhead 10 to serve as the forward support for deck D.  So, remember these two points: (a) you ought not to finish the after bulkhead of the cabin until this extra part 10 is installed and (b) the height of that piece assumes that it's sitting on top of about 2mm of deck D subdeck and planking.  In some of the pictures that follow you'll see that I learned these lessons a little late.  My installation of part 10 is in the middle of the photo below.

 

First step was to build the spiral staircase, which is a little marvel of a minikit.  I was careful to ensure the first two sides were absolutely square to each other, and from that point everything basically jumped into place. Once complete, put it aside in a safe place because it won't be needed for a while.  I opted to paint mine (AK Interactive's mahogany brown), but if you are intending to stain it then it's probably a good idea to clean the char from the tread edges a little more thoroughly than I did.  

The interior rooms can, in theory, be viewed in the finished model by removing covering upperworks, but I'm deeply skeptical that will ever happen with mine once it's done.  Nonetheless I couldn't restrain myself from putting effort into making both spaces presentable, particularly the forward cabin that has the fireplace.  I decked the cabins with boxwood that I had on hand, panelled them with satinwood veneer, and used mahogany veneer (most of it highly figured) for baseboards, benches, door frame, etc.  I wanted to hang pictures on the after bulkhead flanking the doorway passage, but that can't work because the upper deck bisects all but the passageway.

 

 

Working with the veneer was interesting.  I have a huge quantity (in modeling terms) left over from my furniture building days. I didn't worry very much about precise fitting, knowing visibility would always be restricted, which is why the after cabin, especially, looks sloppy in the pictures.  In the forward cabin I was more careful about fit and detail.  I did consider making a door between the spaces, but didn't.  I did, however, try to make the step down into the cabin and the door frame suitably elaborate for the kind of space it would have been on the real ship.   The picture below is out of sequence since it shows the spaces after I applied the Watco Danish Oil.   This is my first experience with it, and I'm quite happy with the result.  My paint scheme for the fireplace was inspired by looking at photos of the Utrecht (a reconstruction of an 18th century statenjacht).

On the exterior of those spaces - particularly the after cabin - I added a lot of bracing for the veneers to make sure they'll stay in place over the coming centuries.

 

I glued the staircase in place in accordance with the instructions, using the deck E subdeck as a guide.  Looking at the pictures after installing the subdeck, it's clear that the after wall of that staircase ought to be finished the same as the after bulkhead.  I may add some satinwood veneer to remedy that.

 

Oh, I should mention that on all the frame members I painted an area around the middle with white and then carefully marked that frame's centerline.  Those marks are useful for aligning things, especially the two-part subdecks, C and E.

 

After installing the staircase I made the sequencing mistakes warned against at the start of this post.  What I did was the following: veneered the after bulkhead; realized that the extra part 10 existed, and installed it on top of frame 10; realized that part 10 was supposed to sit on top of subdeck D and its planking; so I then added a 2mm top to my part 10 so that top deck, when laid, will have the proper sheer.  I also had to scrape off the now too-short veneer I'd applied to the after bulhead of the interior cabin.  I redid that veneer before gluing down subdeck E.

I hope there will not be further repercussions from that misstep.

 

I purchased some scale furniture that I was going to put in the forward cabin.  I may still do that, and I plan to put some furniture in the big upper deck cabin, too.

The next several photos are included to provide views of what can actually be seen of those compartments, in the best case of visibility, after the upper decks are installed.   It's not much.

 

That's all for now.    Next up will be exterior work leading up to planking.

 

Thanks for looking in, 

Bob

[rcweir]

A lot has happened since my last report.

 

To start off, I've started planking the decks.  I'm using Alaska yellow cedar for most of the deck.  The kit supplied basswood is fine - all of the supplied wood looks great - but I think AYC will look a little better, and to be honest I wanted to mill this myself (from stock I had on hand) just for the exercise.

 

A question I'm working out as I go along is is how much of the deck trim details, e.g. combings, borders around the deck houses, etc. I'll highlight with walnut.  On a typical model I wouldn't do this, but it seems appropriate for a showboat kind of vessel.

 

I started on the aft most deck (which will be almost totally obscured when the big after deckhouse gets added).   First I levelled the area where the tiller enters, and then planked out to the stanchions.   On all of these decks, the outer part obstructed by the stanchions will remain unplanked for now.

Speaking of milling, I've been trying to develop safe and effective practices on the little Byrnes saw that let me mill strips that are consistently the right size and where I have confidence I'll finish the job with the same inventory of fingers as I started.  Principles (and hazards) don't really change from the big tablesaw, but for me the big-saw jigs and practices I'm used to don't directly scale down.  So working out safe, effective, practical and efficient techniques is an important goal.

 

Back to deck planking.  I constructed the frame of the midships deckhouse earlier than called for so I could see exactly how it was going to fit on deck.  As the instructions note, the subdeck opening down into the midships cabin is a tad wider than the cabin structure, so some support has to be provided for it.  Also, the deckhouse top piece will be removable, so I've made a supporting surface (of walnut) that will eventually have a rabbet to register the deckhouse's position to prevent it from sliding around in heavy seas.  Visually, it will look like a baseboard around the cabin.

 

I've also assembled the little hexagonal cupola that looks down into the after lower deck cabin.  Assembling that piece would have been pretty easy had I only followed the guidance in the instructions. They say to assemble the rafters first, and then attach the windows. Which makes great sense.  What I did was to first arrange the windows in a hexagon, fit the rafters on to them, then glue it all up.  My way did work, but it required a lot more cuss words than would have been needed doing it the right way.

 

I sometimes wander down rabbit holes trying to decide about small details, and in that vein I've been looking at the two small hatches that are forward of the deckhouse.  The kit photos show the forward hatch cover as having what look like a couple of straps for lifting, and the after (slightly larger) one has hinges and a ringbolt.  Both of those hatches sit over their coamings, rather than sitting in a rabbet in the coaming.  In trying to decide the details of exactly what they ought to look like on my model, I studied drawings from Hoving & Emke's "17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships Plans Set for modelers".  That publication has drawings for numerous vessels of widely varying size from the statenjacht's period.  And, most of them smaller than a pinas have hatches similar to those on this kit.

 

Thanks to those detailed drawings I can see, indeed, that it was common for hatches on smaller vessels to enclose the coamings.  Those hatch covers didn't rise very far above the deck - looks like no more than 2-3" (I haven't tried to measure it yet). None of the Hoving/Emke drawings showed hinges, though maybe they were sometimes present in real life.  But several of those hatches had a pair of cone-like features, and I wondered what they were.  After much digging through my references, I found the explanation by Ab Hoving in "Dutch 17th Century Ship Models in Paper".  On p. 43 there is a photo whose caption describes it as "Hatch for the cable tier".  In accompanying text on that same page, he says,"The hatch for the cable tier has covers on both sides over the holes where the anchor cable passes". And then "The small hatches entering the spaces below decks can simply be cut from 1mm card.  If you like, you can glue coamings around them, But on board this simple ship most hatches fit over the coamings, which means that they are not visible, unless you want to show the hatch in open condition."  I intend to follow Hoving's guidance on how to do my hatches.  Mine won't open - there's nothing to see below decks there.

 

This is a poor sketch of what I'm talking about...

 

Other odds and ends...

 

I always have trouble finding bench space when I need to start bending planks, so I built a little platform for the purpose on one of my roll-around tool cabinets.  With this setup, plank bending is ready to go anytime, but won't be in the way when not needed.

The stem, sternpost and keel are all very nice laser-cut walnut pieces which I will probably attach before starting to plank.  In preparation for gluing them on, I've put temporary tabs on the false keel to make it easy to keep those pieces centered.  

I used this same system when attaching the transom, so I could ensure that the sternpost position on it was properly aligned with the false keel.  I don't have any pictures of fitting the transom, unfortunately.  But in the photo below you can see where I had the temporary alignment tabs.

 

Before installing the transom, I fitted the sternpost because fitting's a finicky process and easier to work flat on the bench. But I didn't glue it on.  Then, when installing the transom, the sternpost had to be temporarily involved again in making sure the transom position was correct.  The tabs helped make that a relatively easy process.

 

The deck stanchions at the tops of bulkheads will eventually be cut away, after the outer hull is planked.  So I sawed all of them 1/3-1/2 way through on the outboard side, while it's very easy to do.  I hope I left enough meat so they don't break during the planking process.

 

Thanks for looking in.  

 

Bob

Edited Monday at 01:28 AM by rcweir