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I've  searched and can not find the answer. Could anyone help please?

I know there are general rules for placement of many of the parts of the ship; ie floor timbers face away from the deadflat. Is there any rules for the placement of treenails????

In all the pictures of such, one treenail is in the upper right portion of the plank and the other in the lower left. However, how does this position relate to; the bow, stern, deadflat???? I'm sure there must be some common method of placement.

Thanks guys,

Larry

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Hi Larry :D

 

Treenails are much more complicated then many modelers think. Many patterns have a purpose, some do not. I have found that on a model it can be very difficult to find a compromise between accuracy and what looks good and not overdone at the scales we work in.

 

Dan Vadas does some of the best looking tree nails. How he gets that spacing and uniformity I don't know. I would paste a link but Billy Gates did something to my computer with his last update.

 

Search for his Vulture build.

 On with the Show.... B) 

 

  J.Pett

 

“If you're going through hell, keep going” (Winston Churchill)

 

Current build:  MS Rattlesnake (MS2028)

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/45-model-shipways-rattlesnake-ms2028-scale-164th/

 

Side Build: HMS Victory: Corel

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3709-hms-victory-by-jpett-corel-198/?p=104762

 

On the back burner:  1949 Chris Craft Racer: Dumas

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/939-1949-chris-craft-racer-by-jpett-dumas-kit-no-1702/

 

Sometime, but not sure when: Frigate Berlin: Corel

http://www.corel-srl.it/pdf/berlin.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

 

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Larry,

I hope the image below is readable.  It is from "historic Ship Models" by Wolfram zu Mondfeld.  I think the book is a must for any builder. there are some inexpensive used copies on Amazon. Only 5 -6 dollars.

 

This is only a sample of the wealth of useful information it contains.

 

Richard T

 

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Richard
Member: The Nautical Research Guild
                Atlanta Model Shipwrights

Current build: Syren

                       

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I guess I did not make myself clear. I'm aware of the Establishments concerning planking and such. What I want to know is the proper placement of treeaniles on a plank. I am under the impression that the upper treenail is placed away from the dead flat. Can anyone confirm this for me?thanks to all.

Larry

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Hi Larry,I think what you are trying to ask is which way do they run diagonally.If this is the case,I am not aware of any rules applying to this.I generally make them run the same way in each elevation of the ship.I do make them opposite between the sides of the ship.In my case I make the top treenail in the plank closest to the bow on both sides.The only reason they are diagonal in my mind is to generate the largest clamping area possible,which way they are orientated is immaterial.

 

Kind Regards Nigel

Currently working on Royal Caroline

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