glowing after oil

[michael101]

Hello everyone

Im doing my first model (bounty 1/100of mamoli) until now all is good but i made a mistake i put oil on my model before glowing all the decoration and paint so i cant paint ( i tried but the paint not going inside the wood but its nice even without paintig so its ok) my question is if i can glow the decoration ... i hope there is a way

[vossy]

g'day michael,

                        need to know what type of oil you used, where you put it, and what you want to

put over it? i'm a professional painter by trade so i may well be able to assist you. there are a

few options available to fix your problem. 

 

cheers chris

[michael101]

Thank you Brian and vossy , i used linen oil in all over the plank (walnat plank) and i need to make and glow all the decoration i mean everything

[vossy]

g'day mate.

                   do you mean you have to GLUE other items to the hull that you have oiled?

2 pac or other oil based adhesives will bond to oiled surfaces but to be sure i concur

with brian about sanding both surfaces to be bonded together.

 

another more foolproof, albeit tedious, time consuming, slightly expensive method would

be: sand the second (oiled) planking to within a nano millimetre of its life and relay a 

3rd layer over it. given the original second layer is only .5 of a mill thick i reckon if you 

spend an hour or two with a bit of 120 then 180 then 240 grit paper you can probably get

the hull back to an even better stage to apply your new final planking sans oil.

 

might sound daunting but i bet this will give you your best outcome. don't know what part

of the world you are from but i reckon 20 odd dollars would cover the cost of the new strips

 

 

cheers chris 

[vossy]

g'day brian,

                   linseed oil would be one of the worst oils to use as it penetrates extremely well.

its why back in the day all the cricketers used to oil there bats with it. it soaks in toughens

the wood and gives a more flexible timber. downside; nothing much sticks to it. hence the

reason cricket bat manufacturers made polymer bats so their logo's would adhere to the wood

for longer. 

 

bottom line: linseed oil is a highly efficient/effective penetrating wood conditioning oil. once

applied its pretty much there to stay.

 

cheers chris

[vossy]

g'day brian,

                   nothing wrong with the product, just wouldn't recommend it for a final

coat on a model

 

cheers chris

[michael101]

Thank you

But can i glowing on this tipe of oil?

[vossy]

umm, glowing? sorry michael not sure anymore?

 

cheers chris

[michael101]

I hope there is a way

I spend lot of time on my first model

[nancysqueaks]

Hi All,

 

  If the problem is linseed oil, then this will oxidise forming quite a tough skin. However a rub

down with meths - methyl alcohol should sort any residues. An abrade with glass paper should

be ok for I assume is gluing fittings etc.

 

Just a thought, Nick.  

[michael101]

Hi , i not have any problem with the glosy

Just about glowing

My question is if can i glow the decoration on the plank that i put oil on

[amateur]

Hi Michael,

 

No you can't glue anything onto line-seed oil.You have to remove the oil wehre you want to glue.

It depends a little bit on the type of wood you have. Linseed oil does not always pentrate deep into the wood.

In that case first scraping off the oil,

second giving it a sanding with sandpaper,

and third step rubbing the spot with metyl alcohol

should remove enough of the oil to make it possible to glue the decorations.

 

Jan

[lamarvalley]

What kind of 'glowing' product do you want to use? Is there a brand name like titebond or testers or enamel? That would be helpful to know.

[nancysqueaks]

Hi again,

 

I agree with Jan but maybe the meths is more useful to remove any remaining oils

after hardening or oxidising?

 

Maybe the best policy - if we are talking about glue affixing decorations to the wood,

is to wait until the linseed oil has hardened then clean and sandpaper.

 

Only my thoughts remembering using linseed oil on furniture many years ago.

 

Regards, Nick.

[michael101]

Im sorry about my english i got the name of the oil from google translat lol

The proper name of the oil is cotton seed oil

Is it make any difrent?

[michael101]

And for the glow i going to work with super glow

[nancysqueaks]

Hi Michael, this is cooking oil and very greasy, long time to even harden!!

 

My only suggestion, and I'm not being funny is to wash the boat with a solution

of washing up detergent and water. Then after drying make good and apply

the decorations.

 

I think you may be able to run your car on cotton seed oil - best not to try though.

 

Regards, Nick

[geoff]

Hi Michael. Maybe you need to change the words "GLOW" and "GLOWING" to "GLUE and "GLUEING? to avoid confusion? Not sure of your Nationality but your English is fine ! All the best, Geoff

[Ulises Victoria]

Hello Michael. I think people who is trying to give you an answer are confused with your use of the words "glow/glowing" Glow means to shine, some thing bright. Perhaps you mean to say "glue or gluing".

[michael101]

Hey victoriaaa thank you !

[michael101]

Thank you geoff

[michael101]

Now is my question lol can i GLUE the decoration with super glue sorry about the mistak

Edited October 14, 2014 by michael101

[jud]

What is done when gun stocks have had to much oil applied over years is to wet the surface with turpentine to thin the surface oil. Leave it on a little while and wipe it off and oil will come with it. Repeat and repeat. You can get almost all of the oil out that way, works because the oil will migrate to the cleaned areas on and near the surface. Might soak the wood in turpentine for a while, maybe you can dilute it neat the surface and it will rise and drive the deeper oil down. The soaking method would not take long to experiment with and do no harm unless you soak plywood, don't do that. I like linseed oil and have used it for years on tool handles, boiled linseed oil with not penetrate far but it will dry faster, raw linseed will penetrate further and dry slower, Going to try the turpentine Linseed mix and see if it penetrates further. Getting back to the problem, I would bet that you are stuck with the soak and wipe method to remove or thin that oil down to the point you can work with the wood. Good Luck.

jud

[michael101]

Thank you Jud

But i love the color of the oil its niceeee i just want to know if can i glue the decoration with super glue

Michael.

[michael101]

I'm posting 2 photos of my model 

you can see that is no glowing at all !!!

 

this is my first one and i worked on that something like 3 month 

i hope that i can glue the decoration and all the rest 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 14, 2014 by michael101

[geoff]

Michael you should be OK but remember with super glue you only get one chance, maybe you could experiment on some scrap material first? By the way I love the colour of your hull!

[michael101]

thank you Geoff 

the planks made from walnut ( mamoli )