Rick01 Posted January 6, 2015 Share #1 Posted January 6, 2015 I've already got a query going in the rigging section but now have a point to clarify re fixtures and fittings. I'm basing everything on the sketches by King rather than Modellers Shipyard plans as these appear to be lacking in accuracy in some areas. In this sketch from left to right we appear to have a forward companionway, pinrail, windlass tight up against pinrail and then possibly ship's oven. Behind the mainmast is the main cargo hatch, gangway, sky light with the ship's boat stored behind, then lastly possibly the pump. The plans however seem to have gained a "main pinrail" unless it's hard up against the mainmast in King's sketch, reversed the pump and skylight and removed the ship's oven. I understand the oven is moveable so that's not of concern however any comments on these points would be appreciated. Rick Quote Completed builds:- HM Cutter Mermaid. HMS Endeavour's Longboat Topsail Schooner Enterprize Arab Dhow Sultan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted January 6, 2015 Share #2 Posted January 6, 2015 Can you either post or give the url of the King drawing that is larger than that reproduced here? It's hard to make out any detail. Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippwj Posted January 6, 2015 Share #3 Posted January 6, 2015 Can you either post or give the url of the King drawing that is larger than that reproduced here? It's hard to make out any detail. See http://www.acmssearch.sl.nsw.gov.au/search/itemLargeCopyright.cgi?itemID=921633&size=full&album=1&collection=823393&parent=442570 for a larger higher resolution sketch. Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick01 Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share #4 Posted January 6, 2015 Wayne - thanks for the high res. shot. It has helped answer my queries. For some reason I'd not found that particular link when looking for information. Rick Quote Completed builds:- HM Cutter Mermaid. HMS Endeavour's Longboat Topsail Schooner Enterprize Arab Dhow Sultan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted January 7, 2015 Share #5 Posted January 7, 2015 Nice reference drawing! Thanks for the url, Wayne. Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick01 Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share #6 Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) Next question whilst I'm working on the deck area of my model. This section of Ollie's build shows a series of "frames" as required by the plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/3958-hm-colonial-cutter-mermaid-by-ollie-modellers-shipyard/page-16?hl=mermaidMy problem here is that all the models I've looked at of cutters built during the same 1800 period in the UK NMM do not show these frames. Who's correct? Not from NMM but a good clear shot anyway http://www.modelships.de/Museums_and_replicas/Science_Museum_London/gIMG_0584.jpg Rick Edited February 3, 2015 by Rick01 Quote Completed builds:- HM Cutter Mermaid. HMS Endeavour's Longboat Topsail Schooner Enterprize Arab Dhow Sultan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted February 3, 2015 Share #7 Posted February 3, 2015 While Ollie's model is nicely done, it does not represent a typical Naval cutter circa 1800. The contemporary Science Museum's model is a better guide. There are no exposed timber heads on the inner bulwarks. hornet 1 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick01 Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share #8 Posted February 3, 2015 So it would be normal with a cutter built to naval specs to have this area boarded in? As you may have Guessed my knowledge of ship construction is near zero so I'm using contemporary models plus King's own illustrations of the Mermaid to build my model and the more I do the more it seems the kit instructions have deviated from what would be correct. Rick Quote Completed builds:- HM Cutter Mermaid. HMS Endeavour's Longboat Topsail Schooner Enterprize Arab Dhow Sultan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted February 3, 2015 Share #9 Posted February 3, 2015 Kits aren't necessarily historically correct, Rick. Some are better than others, others are flights of fancy. The open exposed toptimbers are more representative of 19th century and early 20th century fishing craft. If you are interested in historically accurate models, there are many, many good books available on the subject. hornet 1 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick01 Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share #10 Posted February 4, 2015 Thanks - next stop my library I think. :-) Rick Quote Completed builds:- HM Cutter Mermaid. HMS Endeavour's Longboat Topsail Schooner Enterprize Arab Dhow Sultan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted February 4, 2015 Share #11 Posted February 4, 2015 Also, look at the Gallery of Contemporary Models on this site, the model of Trial (page 2). This collection of photographs by members of models in museums is an invaluable resource and inspiration. Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick01 Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share #12 Posted February 4, 2015 Thanks - I hadn't picked up on that set of photos. Rick Quote Completed builds:- HM Cutter Mermaid. HMS Endeavour's Longboat Topsail Schooner Enterprize Arab Dhow Sultan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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