Jörgen Posted March 7, 2015 #1 Posted March 7, 2015 Hello all I am rigging my Amati American Cup Endeavour 1934. I have a question about how to dilute the PVA glue for securing knots etc. What ratio of Water/PVA do you use? Shall it be heavily diluted or just make it float? Br Jörgen Jörgen Current: Sherbourne - Caldercraft 1/64 Vasa - DeAgostini 1/65 Finished: Endeavour - Americas Cup J class 1934 - Amati 1/80 Other: Airplanes and Tanks
Keith_W Posted March 7, 2015 #2 Posted March 7, 2015 For securing knots, I normally use 60:40 PVA to water. Regards, Keith 2007 (completed): HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina 2013 (completed): Viking Ship Drakkar - Amati 2014 (completed): HMS Bounty Launch - Model Shipways Current: HMS Royal William - Euromodel
Jörgen Posted March 7, 2015 Author #3 Posted March 7, 2015 Thanks Keith How long must I wait until I can trim ends etc? At the moment so doesn't I got any strength without a tiny drop of CA. Jörgen Current: Sherbourne - Caldercraft 1/64 Vasa - DeAgostini 1/65 Finished: Endeavour - Americas Cup J class 1934 - Amati 1/80 Other: Airplanes and Tanks
Keith_W Posted March 7, 2015 #4 Posted March 7, 2015 I would give it 24 hours It takes a long time for diluted PVA to dry. In reality I have trimmed it when it felt dry, but there's no harm waiting a bit longer. After all, you have a tonne of other rigging to do in the meantime! Regards, Keith 2007 (completed): HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina 2013 (completed): Viking Ship Drakkar - Amati 2014 (completed): HMS Bounty Launch - Model Shipways Current: HMS Royal William - Euromodel
Jörgen Posted March 7, 2015 Author #5 Posted March 7, 2015 Not at this starter kit of Endevour. Was trying to trim and test the force after some minutes...... Thanks for the help. Jörgen Current: Sherbourne - Caldercraft 1/64 Vasa - DeAgostini 1/65 Finished: Endeavour - Americas Cup J class 1934 - Amati 1/80 Other: Airplanes and Tanks
pompey2 Posted March 10, 2015 #6 Posted March 10, 2015 I normally go 50/50 PVA and water. And trim a day later Current build USF Confederacy Previous log - HMS Victory
Jaager Posted March 10, 2015 #7 Posted March 10, 2015 If you use natural fiber rigging material and you care how long the rigging will last, consider using bookbinders/archival quality PVA. Lineco Neutral pH Adhesive is one brand that is available. The pH of Titebond II is 3.0 - which is fairly acidic. Not much negative effect on a closed wood-wood area, but rigging is all open to air surface area. Although we need it to live, oxygen is destructive to organic materials that do not have active repair systems (are living). hornet 1 NRG member 50 years Current: NMS HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing HMS Beagle 1831 refiit 10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842 Flying Fish 1838 pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers Porpose II 1836 brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Vincennes 1825 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers assembled, need shaping Peacock 1828 Sloop-of -War - POF timbers ready for assembly Sea Gull 1838 pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly Relief 1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly Other Portsmouth 1843 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers ready for assembly Le Commerce de Marseilles 1788 118 cannons - POF framed La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Jörgen Posted March 11, 2015 Author #8 Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) I use casco indoor woodglue. It has Ph 6 and when diluted with water it should be very close to neutral. Think this will be OK. I have now wait to the day after gluing for the trims etc. Much better result:). I'm happy that this work because I didn't liked the appearance of dried CA. Thank you all for the help. Br Jörgen Edited March 11, 2015 by Jörgen Jörgen Current: Sherbourne - Caldercraft 1/64 Vasa - DeAgostini 1/65 Finished: Endeavour - Americas Cup J class 1934 - Amati 1/80 Other: Airplanes and Tanks
nightingale Posted May 19, 2015 #9 Posted May 19, 2015 If you keep a small air tight container with a diluted white glue 50/50 mix on hand, when opening the container for use I suggest stirring first. there can be a bit of settling of...... Nightingale
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