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Ahoy Augie
Glad to hear it wasn't too bad and something I am sure you will repair. Still sorry to hear of the mishap.
When I first found the post I thought maybe she went flying.
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Ahoy Caroline
Thank you for taking the time to repost your build. It was the first log I read after discovering MSW. I will always remember the fun I had reading it late into the night on my tablet. It was quite inspiring and I found it almost ‘story like” in its trials, tribulations, and of course, happy ending.
It’s nice to see it back
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Augie, Never
Did you not see the pic LOL
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When did you build that Augie
I missed the log "LOL"
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Ahoy Sam
Thank you
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Congratz too; I would be very proud to display that build in my home and can only hope anything that comes from my shipyard looks half as nice.
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Ahoy Patrick
I agree with your statment regarding other kits. I also like the fact with shipbuilding it seems anything can be corrected. With plastics you can not just go out and shape another piece of wood. I found myself buying two or three kits which can be expensive.
I do like you fix though. Will have to remember that one
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Ahoy Mates
Mario: So happy to see you back and building. I am looking forward to the “when” in your reply.
Martin: Glad to see you back in the mix. I looked into that deck. You were right.
Aldo: Thanks for coming aboard. Sometimes it feels like 10 miles. LOL
Dida: No just “home made”. I cut dowels, color them with a sharpie depending on how long the point is going to be. Then I use CA glue to secure the pins in them, filing the pin where it goes into a predrilled hole so the CA gets a good bite. Next, I paint them with thin CA glue so the sharpie does not bleed onto my work and the PVA glue I use does not stick to them.
Back to the build;
I cheated and used shims to correct for the previous problem where my “spiling attempt met the last of my brute force and superstition attempts.
I am posting my current procedure and some pics of my Spiling for review
First, I use a compass to transfer the curve of the last plank to a piece of paper pinned to the hull. Then I find the curve on my French curves. Next, I start with a very wide piece of wood so that once I have my curve I can cut a more planks, one right after the other. This helps me to speed up the “redos” and one day with the next plank.
Using a very hard pencil (4H) I trace out the cut as this creates a groove in the wood, which I find helpful. It also confirms I am on the tick marks I have measured for the plank width. I also use the edge of the French curve to guide my knife. I cut the plank much wider then required, soak it, and then form it to the hull “wide”. The wider plank makes it easier to make corrections. I can sand them to shape verses edge bending them to fix any errors in my curve. These errors coming from me trying to transcribe tick marks to a flat piece of paper on the curved hull. The hardest part.
Your comments are appreciated and welcome
- hopeful, Chuck and freewheelinguy
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Ahoy B.E.
Looks like a really nice kit.
Great build and post. Thanks for sharing
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Ahoy Adam
Thank you for responding
Abysmal meaning "really bad"
When trying to get a rich dark "even" tone on Basswood. Sorry I did not make that clear in my first post.
With stains; even with the conditioner (zinseer sandseal) I could not control the color. It would be too dark here and to light there creating a very unappealing uneven look. With the oil based paint this was a still a problem but it seems I might be able to correct it. With lighter colors I found it was not too bad but trying to achieve something nice with a rich darker tone "for me" still proves to be quite a challenge. So I posted
Thanks B.E. So I am on the right path
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Ahoy, Mates
As the time is nearing for me to add some color to my build I have started testing, would like to post my findings, and hear from others
Basswood does not seem to like darker stains. My first tests were abysmal. After I started using a sanding sealer they improved greatly, but not to a point where I would use them
My experience with plastic showed me that you could “create” a wood grain using paint, so I decided to try this on basswood
Using a water based oil paint I first applied it with a brush to a piece of wood, treated with Zinseer Sandseal. It came out blotchy as darker stain did. The difference was the oil paint could be worked. Using a Q-tip I stippled the paint on the lighter areas balancing the color getting much better results. My test is far from perfect but I think it shows possibility.
I will do more tests and post but would be interested in hearing from others
Note: Anyone following my bleach test, Yes it is
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Ahoy Dominik
Great link. I found 2 more Ratts on that site with photos of some very impressive builds
I like the mount too, might consider it for my build, Thanks
No lights or smoke for me though, 30 years in the entertainment industry, I have seen enough of that
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Ahoy Augie
Professional ME??? I did that already, its over rated
I thought that statement covered it well "LOL"
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Welcome back Mario
Looking forward to following your build "again"
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Ahoy Mario
Glad to see the her make land fall again. Seeing you back ain't so bad either
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Ahoy Mates
I ran a test bleaching some wood and then treating it to see if there were any adverse effects. I actually just dipped the wood in my jar of 25% beach solution, let it dry, not even wiping away any excess and then clear coated it with Zinseer Sand Seal
If I hold it to the light a slight difference can be seen by turning the wood in the light. I think it might be more water stain then any effect of the bleach. I will do another test using a colored stain before trying on my hull.
Please do not try this at home
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Ahoy, Mates
Thank you all for your posts.
Augie: Always a pleasure to have you aboard. I shimmed it. I know, I know. BTW, it was me who remembered the magic, “LOL”
Ben: Trying to lift? I think I would go with “mission accomplished” for that one. If you recall my old log that plank was the subject of at least two posts. I edge bent it, then soaked it again, and then immediately bent it around the hull. I was really fighting the spiling. Was it “twisting, bending and forcing”? I forget.
B.E. Thanks for coming aboard. I get my inspiration from logs like yours (Augie’s, Ben’s, Patrick’s, Mario’s, and quite a few others here who have taken their time to help others). Thank you all. Just trying to follow your lead. No surrounds. going with the toothpics
Sam: I sent you a PM, thank you for the compliment. Use bleach, ME??? “LOL”
Patrick: I tried hard not to: The spiling is not hard. It adds about two more steps. Looks much better and well worth the time. Getting a smooth flow while fitting the plank was the hardest part for me. I would always “not touch” one side of a plank so I had a good reference. With spiling, I had to go solo. I also found that just because you're spiling does not mean you can’t still edge bend em a bit. I will post some pics in my next post.
Aaron: Thank you for the compliment, It must be my newbie-speak. There are many logs here on MSW that are much more detailed then mine. How I learned.
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Ahoy Klaus
I find much inspiration in your post, thank you taking the time to show it.
Could I request a photo highlighting the klinker planking at the poop?
If it is not too much to ask
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Ahoy Patrick
It has been a while since you have posted a pic of her in all her glory. Are you saving this, teasing us till the very end. LOL
Beautiful work, thanks for posting. It must be a quite a feeling to be at this stage and have done such a great job. Congratz
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Congratz Augie
She looks magnificent.
Thanks for posting the full image. It really shows what a great job you have done on the entire build.
I am presuming that you used the magic cam for those pics, Only cause thier flawless “LOL”
Thanks for posting
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Ahoy Mates
Martin: So glad you could attend the party, welcome
, looking forward to the pics
Back to the build
Planking on belt “C” is progressing, slowly but surely. While perusing the forums I found a pic of someone who had installed a captured nut to mount their hull. This got me thinking as I had so far not made any arrangements to mount my build and am closing up the hull, Hummmm.
I decided to address this finding a pedestal base could be used to hide my “OUCH”(see previous post) and located my first mounting hole there. I cut small windows in the main keel to facilitate some hardware and carefully drilled into the keel. I started with a very small diameter bit and drilled to the window. Of course I was off a bit and used the next size bit as a file to make a small correction before moving up to the largest size bit I felt I could use. Using my drill bit as a reference I found 4-40 hardware would work. It was very tight so I made the hole slightly larger again using the drill bit file method. Once I could thread the bolt into the hull, I did, “very carefully”. Now that the wood is threaded a bolt might could just cause a problem (nixed it). The window did serve as a reference and most importantly a place for pressure and wood to be relieved when I threaded the bolt in. I believe this may have prevented any splitting or cracking of the keel
I have also been experimenting with SPILING. I found it easiest to mount paper to the hull as described in my instructions but instead of tracing the adjacent plank I just put tick marks and then matched them to a French curve using that to cut the plank. It did take a few tries but once you learn how not to make bony fingers its not so bad. The image does show that there is a problem needing attention regarding the last plank in belt “A”. I will try the heat gun one more time and if I have to; will either space it with a shim or rip it out and "redo" that plank.
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Ahoy, Bob
Just wanted you to know how much I appreciate you taking the time to restore your log. I am enjoying the new log as much as i did the original
THANK YOU
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Ahoy Mates
Augie: I am up on the air on this, or should I say floundering. Look at the pic. That area is all nice, clean and bright. It almost sparkles, not to mention the lovely lavender smell. LOL. A quick wipe with the bleach solution might be not be a bad idea before treating basswood considering how difficult it can be to stain.
Adam: Thanks for posting. Very interesting. Don't digress, test and post
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Ahoy Mates
I decided that I would rip the plank out if the bleach did not work
It did. I used a Q-tip to apply it, let it sit until dry and then nuked the whole area with water
Now I will not know it there will be any adverse effects on the finish until my hull is complete, but for now it looks good
I am wondering if I should wash the whole hull with some bleach before I seal it up
I used a 25% solution of Clorox concentrated bleach "lavender scented" LOL and water
Le Superbe by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Heller - PLASTIC - Built as "Le Praetorian", after Boudriot
in - Kit build logs for subjects built from 1751 - 1800
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Ahoy B.E.
Very nice build, thanks for sharing
Your work on the sails is most impressive. Might I ask what material was used and a few more details, if possible.