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    Somewhere I read another discussion where was said that the space between the ratlines lied between 14 and 18 inches - this is ca. 35 up to 45 cm. I guess for people in hight between 1.60 and 1,75 a step of ca. 40 cm should be no problem. There's always the point that people should climb very quickly onto the sails - and then bigger steps are quicker steps Like us going upstairs with two steps per time...
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    48 times 5 mm makes 24 cm. I only do have 20 cm - so less ratlines or 20 divided by 48 makes ca. 4,2 mm.
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    I tried to count the ratlines on the original Batavia, but my photos are to low in resolution... But I found out another thing which I'm not sure if it is correct - the crowfeet. On the big Bata I can see crowfeet - but in one of the books which I got from GermtKlaas it was stated that these did not appear before 1660...
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    To be honest - I think i'll wait with the ratlines. With them not yet put on it it'll be easier to do some more ropework around the mast. Sjors supplied me with a nice drawing how to do the ratlines. I already did calculate a distance of 5 mm between them to be on scale (1:72 makes 5 mm roughly 36 cm)
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    Slowly but steady whe're moving on. The VOC retourships had an average speed of 6 up to 8 or 10 knots - which is roughly 12 up to 18 kilometers per hour. A man (or woman) riding a bicycle has about the same speed. Imagine: traveling on your bike to the far east! After our modeller-meeting last saturday I had to go on with the standing rigging of the lower parts of the masts. Besides that I have put a layer of patinated varnish (clear varnish with some drops of black and brown paint in it) on the upper part of the hull. This gives a nice "mature" look to the ship. It is although quitte difficult to get the rigging nicely on film.
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    As long as you bring some chicken with you - ok
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    Sjors, Not posting so much on this forum. But people over here are very enthiouastic - like on our Dutch Forum. And it is nice to get reactions from fellow builders out of Australia f.i. - the Batavia does link us a bit.
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    Thank you. To be honest - I spent a lot time in mixing and stirring and trying again before the grey-green did match good enough.... But that is also part of the hobby :-)
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    Hey guys, we had a great day last saturday - lots of craftmanship and good fun. And my Batavia could nicely cope with all the other great models. If you want to have a glimps of what was to be seen: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6479-modelshipbuilders-meeting-in-the-netherlands-on-saturday-april-19th/ With thanks to Sjors
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    Thank you. If you want to see her in real - this week saturday - the 19th - we have a modelbouw-meeting in het Dorpshuis in Duizel - near to Eindhoven, Netherlands. There - together with many other builders - we are showing our work. Dorpshuis de Smis - Duizel 11.00 - 17.00 h - your very welcome - entrance is free. This weekend I have painted the mermen in yellow ocre to let it look gold (no real gold - that was too expencive in the 17th century).
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    Last weeks I have been busy on the foremast and the mainmast - started with the standing rigging of both. For the foremast this was no trouble, but starting with the rigging of the mainmast I realised I first had to make the mermen on the rail on both sides. Standing rigging on the foremast Mermen on the rail
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    Like Grandma in Downton Abbey Then I can imagine she is familiar with Marktplaats and would be able to buy such an item for you (if you want to have it though - because scratch-builing can be nicer than out of a box building).
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    Yeah. Either 2 or 20 million - I both don't have it...
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    Correct. It is even part of Ebay - but works in a little bit diffirent way. There is no end-time on an auction and it is not mandatory to buy the object if you are the highest bidder. I don't know if your mom is familiair with internet (she might be a bit older) because Marktplaats is a bit reserved towards foreign bidders. The kit from Billing Boats was a nice one when I bougth it 40 years ago (it was a present from my grandma - She gave me some money and said I should buy something which made me not to forget her - so I bought this kit). Maybe to nowaday standards the kit is a bit "poor".
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    Marc, It was a kit made by Billing Boats. Sometimes you still can find on the internet. There is a Dutch auction-site where I found it two times (just looked it up): http://www.marktplaats.nl/a/hobby-en-vrije-tijd/modelbouw-boten-en-schepen/m792228491-bouwpakket-v-e-statenjacht-billing-boats-nr-461-en-462.html?c=8c285449651fa109c354bbabe740c1b&previousPage=lr
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    Marc, This yacht you build is very nice! I like this type of ship particularly because it was the first wooden model I made (being eleven years old). My parents were a bit doubful at that time, and I broke a lot of saws on it - but I did it. And the model still excists (though it neads some repair now - ca. 40 years later)..
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    I just did check the website of the Bataviawharf (http://www.bataviawerf.nl/who-are-we.html) but they don't mention anything about stopping (which was pronounced 14th of february this year). And maybe I have to correct myself - the whole ship De zeven Provinciën was about to cost 2 million... Still - there is lack of money.
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    Matti, you never know if this will change again. They're not going to remove the work so far done, but it's just the amount of money the wharf has which is to be spent in another way. (Imagine - for just one piece of oak to pay 45.000 euros - that is more than a year wages for many people!)
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    Keith, Nice pictures, though it is clear that there is hardly anything to see on which you can say: "hey, they done this the same on the new Batavia. In fact - the replica was build as a project for young unemployd people to get some practice and experience and make it easier to find a job. The shipbuilder of the Bataviawharf at that time was Willem Vos, who saw it as a nice opportunity to help people and to bring back alive the old Dutch shipbuilding experience which was very well known in a great part of the world. They decided to build a VOC-retour ship (which means it was build to sail to the far east with buildingmaterials, people, money, silver and jewelry, and then return to Holland which spices - again and again). The striking terrorstory of the Batavia made Willem Vos decide to name the ship Batavia. It is almost completely unknown how the original Batavia did look - apart from the original pieces at Fremantle, and the new Batavia is more an old-tradition build ship with the name Batavia (I hope this doesn't dissapoint you....) Maybe you know the Bataviawharf started years ago with a new project - De Zeven Provinciën - which was the Flag-ship of Michiel de Ruyter. Unfortunately, due to neccessary savings the wharf has recently stopped this project. They where about to buy some timber in Denmark - 45 Oak logs - which had to cost ca. 2 million euro's - ca. 2,6 million US-dollar - or 45.000 euro per log). This was a "bit" above budget (the wharf is making a little profit again since many years) and the decision was made to stop the Zeven Provinciën project. They are now focussing on smaller projects, but still in the style and thought of the 17th century Dutch craftmanship.
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    Maybe the following information is a bit "comic" due to my not 100% knowledge of english. "Wulf" is probably a mumbled (degenerated) version (you know - sailors, no teeth anymore, smoking their pipe and chewing tobacco..) of the Dutch word "gewelf" A "gewelf" is a vault or an overhanging part of a roof. Wulf is the lower part of the stern, the part that hangs over de water. The Dutch VOC-retour ships often had a convex and a concave part - het holle wulf (concave) and het bolle wulf (convex). The convex part is the part with the VOC emblem on it.
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    Jay, No - I just thought I'd make some nice looking figures - did it all by heart. Maybe the're a bit to modern, but again, that's the personal touch...
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    Keith, sorry to hear about your friend. I would be very pleased to see your pictures (and I hope you also made some pictures of the model in the Batavia-museum) Regarding printing the painting - this is of course a good and nice solution to get a 1 to 1 copy of the original ship. But the rest of my model isn't a 1 to 1 copy neither so I figured out to do the painting myself. And to be honest: I liked doing the painting (with a two-haired brush) and giving the ship a personal touch.
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    The lower part of the stern - in Dutch "het holle wulf" - (I couldn't find how this part is called in English) of 17th century ships was decorated with a nice painting - f.i. a heroic sea-battle which was won, or a safe return from a long journy abroad. On the Lelystad Batavia it is a safe return of three ships close to a sandy coast: I tried to copy this painting on my model, but this was quitte difficult. It has become a sort of impressionistic picture. Unfortunately the impressionism was not knowm at that time...
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    On the front of the Batavia are some smaller statues (in fact only the heads) As I don't know which people these all are I just thougt I'd work out some striking figures who'd fit quitte good in those days. Only the most right one is something diffirent - this one should look a little be like me
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    Matti - found it - thank you!

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