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*Hans* replied to *Hans*'s topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
To add to the last post: they fired the guns with approx. 200 grams of gunpowder and a canonball made out of an old newspaper. In real the canons where fired with 2 kilograms of gun powder. These are 6 pound caliber canons - this means the canonball ia about the size of a cricketball (or a baseball-ball) and weights about 6 pounds or 3 kg. We had a discussion about the force of such a canonball - if it could smash right through the shipswall or not. We where not sure. Some said it could, others had their doubts. -
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*Hans* replied to *Hans*'s topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
Last saturday a small group of modelbuilders where on the Bataviawharf in Lelystad - to have a glimps on the 1/10 scale model of De Zeven Provinciën they are making - nice and interesting! Another nice thing to see is the firing of the "old" canons they used on the ships: The sound on this video is acceptable - but in real it will blow your eardrums out! -
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*Hans* replied to *Hans*'s topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
In the meantime on the Dutch forum we have a nice Anglo-Dutch ship discussion going on. Great fun! This however must not stop us from doing what we like to do - modelbuilding. The lantern is finished - including the little door in it to light the candle - and then mounted onto the ship. -
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*Hans* replied to *Hans*'s topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
I made some modifications on the Liondogshead - this is a little bit more like it - to my opninion And beware - otherwise I make a Sjorshead on the bow -
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*Hans* replied to *Hans*'s topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
With this modelling clay there are always some leftovers. Of course I can throw these away, but it comes handy that I still have some carving to make on the bow: - Some say its more like a dogshead - Some say it has flappy ears - Some say it looks a little bit like it. Decide for yourself: Sorry - wrong picture. -
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*Hans* replied to *Hans*'s topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
Another nice thing to make is the lantern. You can buy some standard lanterns - but these didn't match my requirements. So I started with sanding some wood in shape Then sketched the under and upper part and carved the top: With some clay made some ornaments on it - and slept a night over it. But to be honest - I didn't like it - to round, to much not what I wanted. Then I made a second version - more right up, but here I used to much glue - and it was much to big! As you can see it is over 5 cm (2 inch) high - which means in scale 1:72 a 3,5 meter lamp. Fully out of proportion. So I scrapped this lamp and started for the third time. This is so far the result - an approx. 3 cm lamp which means in real life about 2,4 meter high. Still huge, but some more in the right size. -
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*Hans* replied to *Hans*'s topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
Although VOC - ships used to carry up to six anchors I,ve decided only to make two of them (the manufacturer didn't supply more ) One side is finished now: -
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*Hans* replied to *Hans*'s topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
Tribute. Because my wife is a little bit afraid she is loosing me a little bit because of the Batavia (which is not true of course) i sculpted one of the heads on deck to her image: -
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*Hans* replied to *Hans*'s topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
Well - must have been some time ago - 1968 the Mulo changed into Mavo. Should not give any stress anymore I think -
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*Hans* replied to *Hans*'s topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
I guess this must have been the lagere school, or ??? -
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*Hans* replied to *Hans*'s topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
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Piet, I wondered why I didn't see your topic before! You're doing a very nice and accurate job - details are very well worked out, and I recognise the shape of the VOC ships of the 17th century very well. The stern f.i. is very much like the Prins Willem model, and the Zeven Provinciën (only as scratch model available - a lot of information is to be found here: http://www.otteblom.nl/tekeningen/ ). The Friesland from Mamioli has also the wider stern which came in use the second half of the 17th century. My Batavia is smaller at the stern, which I think was more in use beginning of the 17th century, and she is less accurate build as yours (in fact, I'm a bit of a sloppy builder.... ) Waiting for further post from your side!
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*Hans* replied to *Hans*'s topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
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Batavia by *Hans* - FINISHED
*Hans* replied to *Hans*'s topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
I bought me some ribbon in the Dutch flag colours for the diverse flags and pennants on the ship. However, it turned out that the largest ribbon still was to small for the main flag on the rear of the ship, so with some paint and thin cotton sheet I have made a flag myself. Nowadays the Dutch flag is the well known red white blue but during the tachtig jarige oorlog (the 80 year war with Spain - 1568-1648 see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighty_Years'_War) the Orange family became stronger. The Dutch flag at that time was moreless introduced by de Geuzen - the underground movement against the Spanish rulers (when you translate Geuzen you get Beggars - and in fact they where the poor people of Holland which started revolting against the Spanish). They had choosen a flag with an orange uppercolor - Oranje Boven - or Orange rules! This flag was called Oranje Blanje Bleu - a loose translation of the French Orange-blanc-bleu which described the colours. In the period up to around 1630 the official Dutch flag then was this Oranje blanje bleu, and there are diffirent storeys why this in the end changed into the red-white-blue which we have now - f.i.: - The orange was a mixture of red and yellow pigment, and the yellow pigment couldnt stand the sunlight, rain etc. so the orange turned into red. - the orange colour was quitte expencive to make, so the frugal Dutch choose the red. The exact cause of changing from orange to red is not know, both flags excisted aside each other for a longer period. After 1650-1670 only the red-white-blue remained. In 1937 the Red White Blue was declared by Queen Wilhelmina as the official Dutch flag -
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*Hans* replied to *Hans*'s topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
Marc, I do have a lot of photos of the Batavia, so I can add pretty much of al these details, yes. If she is the same as the original is only guessing. The craftsman under which the Batavia was build - Willem Vos - did use a lot of his own imagination and intepretation on how ships where build in the 17th century. He just did call her the Batavia because he had read about the voyage of the Batavia. The ship could have easily be named "Willem Vos" as well... -
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*Hans* replied to *Hans*'s topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
In the galleries on both sides of the ship where the toilets for the higher ranking people on the ship. The "sewers" of these toilets where just simple pieces of copperpipe A took a small piece of brass tube - some brownishing on it and mounted this under the galleries: -
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*Hans* replied to *Hans*'s topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
Hello Prutser No - I don't know this model from Mr. Zeller - sorry -
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*Hans* replied to *Hans*'s topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
I'm going up and down in the things I'm doing. Stopped with the rigging and started with the rudder: Out of a beech stir stick for paint I made the rudder (two layers glued on each onder. The smaller part was a square stick of balsa in the right dimension. After that a small brass strip cut in the right dimension, and soldered brass pins on it: Then the strip made in the right lenght: drilled holes in it (1 mm) and with small nails attached the hinges to the rudder: The other part of the hinge - which goes on the ship (excuses for the bad photo) And finaly the rudder completed - all the hinges on it - made dark with some brass-black. I just have to fill out the small gaps on the front side of the rudder - between the hinges -
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*Hans* replied to *Hans*'s topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
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Batavia by *Hans* - FINISHED
*Hans* replied to *Hans*'s topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
Janos, very nice model indeed! I found out that an available modelship - the Half Moon - is moreless about the same size and look. But first I'll try to find the plans - will come to you if I can't succeed in this. -
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*Hans* replied to *Hans*'s topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
Nice - The Endeavour having the Dutch VOC Flag in top! (some guy in Holland I know will not be pleased by that - Klaas ) Is there no DVD or so available - only VHS?) -
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*Hans* replied to *Hans*'s topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
For all the people who have Dutch roots - and all of those who haven't: http://www.theadmiralthemovie.com/ This year in Holland the filming of the life and work of Michiel de Ruyter will start. "Wars are fought by many History is made by few...." -
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*Hans* replied to *Hans*'s topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
Janos, I think you did a nice job on this ship - do you have a photo of it? I tried to find the plans via the Duyfken website in Australia - but t seems they're not available anymore.. -
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*Hans* replied to *Hans*'s topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
Duyfken is Dutch for little Dove - and it was indeed not bigger than a yacht. I looked some things up on the internet, found this about her size: The Duyfken (Little Dove) was a 24 metre yacht, and was used as a scouting vessel for large spice fleets. After 13 years of service, which also saw the boat used as a cargo ship and a warship, the Duyfken was lost after a battle with Spanish galleys in 1608. She could carry about 20 to 24 men, and was first intended as a fast sailing scouting ship. Might be a nice ship to build...
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