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*Hans* got a reaction from drobinson02199 in Batavia by drobinson02199 - FINISHED - Kolderstok - Scale 1:72
David, thank you for your nice introduction. Sure I'm going to follow your log, and if there are any questions, please ask!
Hans
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*Hans* got a reaction from mtaylor in A Dutch 17th century pleasure vessel by Ab Hoving - CARD
Hello Mr. Hoving, Ab,
I am very pleased by the small pleasure yacht you have build the last year. In one of your earlier post you offered pdf's or dxf files of this yacht. I am very interested in these 🙂
I will send you a PM for more information.
Best regards,
Hans
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*Hans* got a reaction from druxey in A Dutch 17th century pleasure vessel by Ab Hoving - CARD
Hello Mr. Hoving, Ab,
I am very pleased by the small pleasure yacht you have build the last year. In one of your earlier post you offered pdf's or dxf files of this yacht. I am very interested in these 🙂
I will send you a PM for more information.
Best regards,
Hans
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*Hans* got a reaction from Algirdas in HMS AGAMEMNON by Karinmutter - FINISHED - Caldercraft - 1:64
Martin,
If I can be of any help to you, I already made the Batavia in scratch, and am almost finished in making the buildingkit of it. Please have a look at my avatar and feel free to ask.
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*Hans* got a reaction from Nikiforos in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
Thanks guys.
December is a busy month - it has been a while since my last pictures.
The structure on the ship is getting in shape more and more:
And in the meantime cutted some wood for the oars:
I figured out (being a mechanical engineer) that the structure of the original kit isn't made in the proper way - looking where the oars will come. To my opinion the whole structure will distort when speeding up the rowing (when the captain wants to waterski f.i.)
The immense forces on the structure aren't brought to the hull when the diagonal beams are lacking. So I added them.
View on the front with its closed nose:
And the deck being placed:
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*Hans* got a reaction from Nikiforos in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
Update.
Busy on the structure on the ship, all done in oak sticks of 4 x 4 mm - cut in length - with dowels and coppernail mounting.
Not really boring, but not the most exciting job to do. Just some pictures:
structure for the third row of seats
Impressive view
and
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*Hans* got a reaction from Nikiforos in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
As promised: pictures of making the holes for the oars:
First step is to mark the right spots and rough diameter. I used an old fashioned letter template for this:
Then simply drill the holes with a 3 mm drill (rather difficult to drill and make a photo - the drill is actually turning, but the flash makes it not visible):
With a round cutter widened the wholes until the approx diameter is reached:
Then with some sort of whetstone (don't know how else I should call this) in the right diameter done the last step:
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*Hans* got a reaction from Nikiforos in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
In fact this ship isn't that difficult. After making the substructure for the second row of seats I added the deck in between them. Quite simple with wooden stirrers again.
After this I started with aging the oak by treating it with ammoniac. This gives a dark shade over the wood. Not sure if I will stain it further - have to make some samples
Also made the first row of holes for the oars:
And I started with the frames for the third row of seats:
Here my new circular saw is quite handy
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*Hans* got a reaction from Nikiforos in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
Planking of the hull is merely finished - and the ram on the bow is getting its shape.
When you make a mixture of oakdust and diluted white glue the oak will start to discolor to black a bit.
Fortunately this again will be covered by the further planking of the bow and the ram.
And a few pictures for Don, showing the inside so far:
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*Hans* got a reaction from Nikiforos in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
I have to make a big apologize to all the readers - because I made a big mistake in scale.
The Batavia on the picture is 1:72 - but the Trireme is 1:35 (the original kit is 1:72) - ooopppsss
This means the trireme is "only" about 35 meters or 100 feet..
Here some pictures for a better idea - the bireme and the trireme
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*Hans* got a reaction from Nikiforos in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
Some people in Holland asked me to make a picture of the trireme compared to some other recognizable thing.
Both are scale 1 : 72 - about 55 meters long (180 feet)
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*Hans* got a reaction from Nikiforos in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
Bending the oak strips 3 x 3 mm works quite well, but they have to be soaking wet. There is only one problem, it is quite difficult to twist them as well in the round areas. Sanding the hull must do the trick in the end...
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*Hans* got a reaction from Nikiforos in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
After finishing my first scratch build - VOC Retourship Batavia - I will now start with something completely diffirent, a Greek Trireme.
Trireme means literally three oars - three rows of oars placed above each other.
For one of my sons, who is studying archeology and has a great interest in the ancient Greek culture I already made a Bireme - two oars. This one is in scale 1:35.
The European modelbuilder Krick also has a Trireme in its program, so we decided to buy and built this one:
But this is in scale 1:72 and built it will be about 51 cm long. About the same as the Bireme.
So we decided to lay the kit aside and use the plans to upscale the thing to 1:35 scale - making it twice as big as the Bireme, but in the same scale.
This means a model of over 1 meter (3 ft) and making everything yourself - keel - bulkheads - planking etc.
Therefore this topic in the scratch-build section.
First step to do was to upscale the plans, with my copier and some old fashioned carbonpaper:
After that the jig saw and after sawing and fitting the first result:
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*Hans* got a reaction from Nikiforos in Greek Bireme by Robin Lous - FINISHED - Dusek - Scale 1:72 - First wooden ship build
Hey Robin,
Didn't have a look at your Bireme build until now. Looking good. I made a Bireme as well for my son (ho studied archeology) and than started a scratch trireme in the same scale. This turned out to be a huge thing of about 1 meter length.
Picture of how far I am now:
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*Hans* got a reaction from J11 in HMS AGAMEMNON by Karinmutter - FINISHED - Caldercraft - 1:64
Oh - forgot this picture to keep you going:
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*Hans* got a reaction from J11 in HMS AGAMEMNON by Karinmutter - FINISHED - Caldercraft - 1:64
Martin,
If I can be of any help to you, I already made the Batavia in scratch, and am almost finished in making the buildingkit of it. Please have a look at my avatar and feel free to ask.
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*Hans* got a reaction from Scottish Guy in Greek Trireme by ships88 - Dusek - 1:72
This might be a nice alternative?
http://www.modelbouwdekombuis.nl/Capitana-Di-Venetia-Aeronaut-3255/00-Modelbouw-Modelbouwen.html
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*Hans* got a reaction from Scottish Guy in Greek Trireme by ships88 - Dusek - 1:72
Hello Ships88 - nice you have started this model! I have exactly the same one over here, but will only use the plans because I will scratch this Trireme in a scale of 1:32
This makes her over 1 meter length.
Reason why? We already have a Bireme in 1: 32 and like to have this Trireme in the same scale.
Picture:
You already have done very nice work on your model!
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*Hans* got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
All you readers might have noticed this build is not really updated every week (or so). This is because I am very busy on creating the third model in my range of Dutch 17th century ships. This time I am building quite a big one: De Zeven Provinciën from 1665 - the flagship of Michiel Adriaansz. de Ruyter.
I hope to start a build log on this one within short time, but as the plan is to launch her as a model kit end of this year (short before Christmas) this might take some more time. I am very occupied in finishing the model and preparing the box and her contents.
A few pictures to give some more information:
More info on http://kolderstok.com/zevenprovincien.en.html
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*Hans* got a reaction from Siegfried in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
As I am working on three ships at the same time it all goes a bit slower (beginning of May we have a little show with ancient sailing ships in Rotterdam, NL, and I want to show four vessels which all have to be in some state of finish).
The Trireme fits very good to this show - as she has one of her sails attached:
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*Hans* got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
Made them with my cell phone, so not the highest quality - sorry.
Backside of the shield. These are in fact 2-cent coins - made convex - tinned and then soldered a small brass handle onto it.
On the ship itself I have placed poles - with a sharp end sanded to it:
And the shield can be put with its handle over this pole:
It looks a bit fuzzy due to the glue. Normally it should not be glued of course, but I don't want them to get lost during building etc.
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*Hans* got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
Modelling is a lot of standing for me (I don't like sitting and doing things).
Standing in the kitchen, doing some art work:
This is going to be the main sail:
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*Hans* got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
Beside all the other projects I am doing I just did something on the Trireme as well (again). The shields (60 of them) have been made, painted and given a personal touch. One side of the ship is now done in the way as described earlier in this topic.
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*Hans* got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
My last post here was in januari, and now we're talking september.
Haven't done nothing in the meantime though.
In januari I started the scratch build Duyfken 1595 - finished it in July and made it into a model kit which is now available:
I think I should do something on the Trireme again...
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*Hans* got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Trireme c. 480 BC by *Hans* - ancient Greek warship
And off-topic on this topic - but promised - the painted version of the lantern for the East Indiaman:
Top painted in dark brown copper - lantern in yellow plus earth grey shade over it. I'm not satisfied yet about the painting.
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