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Elijah reacted to alde in 18th Century Long Boat by alde - Model Shipways - Small
Fitting the first garboard stake went pretty well. It sure is a challange. There is a lot of trial and error in bending and twisting the wood to conform to the hull. The edge bending was not as bad as I thought it would be and the second one went easier than the first. At this point I have both garboard strakes and one up from the garboard strake on the port side. I don't have pictures of that because it's covered in clamps and I just had enough for the day.
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Elijah reacted to alde in 18th Century Long Boat by alde - Model Shipways - Small
I thought I was on the mailing list but have not seen anything. I would love to get together with you guys. I'll PM Floyd again.
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Elijah reacted to Nirvana in 18th Century Long Boat by alde - Model Shipways - Small
Al,
Did you get any invitation to PSSM's meeting last weekend. This meeting took place at Foss Waterway Seaport.
I had my longboat on display.
Make sure to contact Floyd for the mailing list.
However, your longboats planking is coming along nicely after the corrections.
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Elijah reacted to alde in 18th Century Long Boat by alde - Model Shipways - Small
Thanks for the tip Ryland. I will be doing this tomorrow and will follow your advice. I have a feeling I'll know a whole lot more about planking a hull when it's done.
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Elijah reacted to Ryland Craze in 18th Century Long Boat by alde - Model Shipways - Small
Be sure that the forward edge of the garboard strake starts about 1/8'' forward of the scarph joint. I feel this strake is the most important of the strakes to be installed. I found out the hard way after installing three bottom strakes that my garboard strake was too far forward. I had to remove them and start over. You are coming along nicely on your build.
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Elijah reacted to John Cheevers in 18th Century Long Boat by alde - Model Shipways - Small
Wow, That scale sure looks familiar.
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Elijah reacted to alde in 18th Century Long Boat by alde - Model Shipways - Small
Steve, when I looked at BobF''s log it was like a light was lit. It's much more clear now. I really appreciate you pointing me in the right direction.
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Elijah reacted to Tigersteve in 18th Century Long Boat by alde - Model Shipways - Small
Just take your time with it it's a challenge, but you will learn a lot. There are dozens of longboat logs, but BobF has the most detailed and impressive one. Erik's log is linked below. Another very clean log. His garboard is placed a bit more forward, but his plan worked very well for him.
Steve
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Elijah reacted to alde in 18th Century Long Boat by alde - Model Shipways - Small
I'm glad I didn't go further. I'll take a look at BobF's log before I do anything else and waste more wood?
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Elijah reacted to Tigersteve in 18th Century Long Boat by alde - Model Shipways - Small
That is incorrect. It is the other way around. Take a long look at BobF's log. It will help you a lot.
Steve
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Elijah reacted to alde in 18th Century Long Boat by alde - Model Shipways - Small
Progress is very slow today. I only had a couple of hours to work on the boat and got a little done. The garboard stake is quite a challange for me. My understanding is that all the shaping of the plank is done on the edge that runs against the keel. Is this right? My first two hulls used pre-spiled planks so this is my first time doing this.
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Elijah reacted to alde in 18th Century Long Boat by alde - Model Shipways - Small
I need to go back and look at some build logs again. I may be over thinking things like I usually do. I am using tick strips and proportional dividers to space out the planks. Fitting the garboard strake looks a bit tricky but I make as many of them as it takes to get it right.
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Elijah reacted to Blue Ensign in 18th Century Long Boat by alde - Model Shipways - Small
Not too significant, fortunately the thwart butts against the next frame along so the spacing won't be affected.
There are more than one or two examples on my build where things could have been done better, but they tend to reduce in significance as the build progresses.
B.E.
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Elijah reacted to alde in 18th Century Long Boat by alde - Model Shipways - Small
Yes, it's leaning a bit. I decided that since it shouldn't affect the planking and will be hard to see from inside the boat I would leave it alone. I know it's poor workmanship but I didn't notice it until the two shear planks were installed. I should have made a building jig for it.
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Elijah reacted to Blue Ensign in 18th Century Long Boat by alde - Model Shipways - Small
A good fix Alde, apart from planking issues the smooth sheer on this model is what gives it its beauty.
Looking at your last photo; has bulkhead No 3 (5th from aft) slipped out of true?
B.E.
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Elijah reacted to alde in 18th Century Long Boat by alde - Model Shipways - Small
Thanks again for pointing it out. I am happy to redo things to make them right.
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Elijah reacted to Cathead in 18th Century Long Boat by alde - Model Shipways - Small
Yes, I do think that looks smoother. Very much looking forward to the progression of your build, this was such a fun and instructive kit to build.
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Elijah reacted to Derek C in 18th Century Long Boat by alde - Model Shipways - Small
Lookig real good alde
I will follow along with you on your journey
Derek
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Elijah reacted to alde in 18th Century Long Boat by alde - Model Shipways - Small
I appreciate tell constructive criticism. I'm still learning and need all the help I can get. Looking at the hull again I see what you mean. I will see if I can remove the plank with some alcohol and do it right. I can see how it would just magnify as I go.
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Elijah reacted to Cathead in 18th Century Long Boat by alde - Model Shipways - Small
This may be a trick of the photo, but to my eye it seems that your sheer plank doesn't quite curve smoothly along the whole run of the hull. At about the 7th frame from the stern, there seems to be a sharper curve transitioning from relatively straight sections fore and aft of that point (especially fore). I mention this, not to be critical, but because if this isn't an optical illusion it may give you trouble as you continue planking. Ideally that plank should follow a smooth, sweeping curve with no sudden changes; any of those later could ripple through the subsequent planking and give you wider gaps between the planks or more difficulty getting the planks to really follow the hull smoothly.
My apologies if it's just optical or if suggesting this is out of line, but I've always hoped others would point out potential concerns to me and wish to do the same for others.
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Elijah reacted to alde in 18th Century Long Boat by alde - Model Shipways - Small
A little more progress today. I managed to get the first two planks installed. It went pretty and the edge bending using Chucks instructions works very well. I'm using all yellow wood glue so it's going to go a little slow. I really don't like to use super glue if I can help it.
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Elijah reacted to Cathead in 18th Century Long Boat by alde - Model Shipways - Small
This is a fun kit that can be deceptively challenging (in a good way). I learned a lot from it and it looks like you're off to a good start.
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Elijah reacted to alde in 18th Century Long Boat by alde - Model Shipways - Small
Thank you all for the kind words and likes. I have made a bit more progress today. I got the frames faired, the transom and bow blocks installed and cleaned thosenup. So far so good. I'm pretty happy with the fairing. My after most frame before the transom is a bit off kilter but I'll live with it. I don't think it will be noticeable on the finished model.q