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				 Elijah reacted to cog in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model Elijah reacted to cog in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model
 Druxey triggered a memory of something I read ... oil and heat might do the trick ...
 
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 Would gentle heating of the wire 'tint' it?
 
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 Michael, suggest you label each trial cable so you can duplicate it later on. I've got several small coils of rigging line labeled for number of strands of what initial size, just in case. 3 X 4 of .008 or # 5 linen, or whatever.
 
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				 Elijah reacted to michael mott in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model Elijah reacted to michael mott in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model
 This image from Vallejogallery shows an obvious change or repair. if you look at the shrouds you can see the new brighter wire.
 
 I have been doing some further tests with the new brass wire.
 
 
 
 the top and bottom cables are from the aft funnel the second cable from the bottom is as close as I have come yet to replicating the Bassett Lowke cables it is made from
 a) 4 sets of 34 gauge non tarnishing brass colored wire
 each set is 15 inches long twisted with 80 turns clockwise
 c) the 4 sets are then combined and twisted with 50 turn anticlockwise
 
 
 
 The second cable from the top is made from 3 lengths of 28 gauge brass non tarnishing brass wire wound clockwise 80 turns and given a smear of brown Pebeo Vitrail stain for colored glass, I dipped the wire then immediately wiped it off once with a tissue it leaves an tinted aged look to the brass.
 
 Michael
 
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				 Elijah reacted to cog in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model Elijah reacted to cog in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model
 Another nugget for the collection ...
 
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				 Elijah reacted to michael mott in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model Elijah reacted to michael mott in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model
 Carl, I know that of course. I said it with a smile on my face. your comment though helped me see a better way.
 
 Michael
 
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				 Elijah reacted to cog in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model Elijah reacted to cog in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model
 Michael,
 
 It is not up to me to approve, I can merely give my thoughts/insights on the matter at hand, and hope those may be of use to you. I am very impressed with the way you have been tackling challenges.
 
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				 Elijah reacted to michael mott in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model Elijah reacted to michael mott in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model
 This is my hope. I have learned so much from all of the work that has been posted here by others. This site is more than a gold mine in my view.
 
 Carl I think that this will meet with your approval, thanks for the thought.
 
 
 
 I picked up my brass wire today and am doing some tests with it.
 
 Michael
 
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				 Elijah reacted to Jim Lad in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model Elijah reacted to Jim Lad in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model
 She's coming back to life, Michael. Your detailed descriptions of your methods will be an absolute gold mine for others faced with restoration work.
 
 John
 
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				 Elijah reacted to popeye the sailor in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model Elijah reacted to popeye the sailor in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model
 work is in full swing......good to see your making some positive progress great ideas with the jigs .........and even better that you were able to straighten out that railing. superb work Michael...but yea,........there is that threat of going into too much detail {knowing you} just eyeball it with the starboard side.......apparently, good was good enough for them
 
 
 great job so far!
 
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				 Elijah reacted to michael mott in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model Elijah reacted to michael mott in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model
 Thanks Joe, sometimes I wonder if I am being a little too detailed. My hope is that there are nuggets of info that will be useful.
 
 Michael
 
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				 Elijah reacted to michael mott in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model Elijah reacted to michael mott in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model
 Hi Nils, they are made of brass, I cannot see yet if they are lost wax (which I doubt) or are a composite of rods tubes and forged elements the tall open type are a combination of tube and turned parts. The shorter large scoop type appear to be assembled as well. All of the chipped paint on them have exposed a brass color.
 
 Michael
 
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				 Elijah reacted to michael mott in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model Elijah reacted to michael mott in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model
 Jan, me too, and I have to deal with them. The fall would have been a smooth arc it was the chair in the way and the glass case being shattered then the sudden stop at the end that did all the damage.
 
 Good point Carl. I shall rework it.
 
 Michael
 
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				 Elijah reacted to Mirabell61 in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model Elijah reacted to Mirabell61 in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model
 A good approach Michael,
 
 trust you will get all damaged portions neat and tidy again, it will take the time it requires, and I think you`re not being pushed by anyone.
 You`re doing a great job
 I saw the vents on the ship are a bit more modern type compared to my KWdG vent scoops, what material are the Albertic`s vent scoops made of ?
 
 Nils
 
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				 Elijah reacted to cog in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model Elijah reacted to cog in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model
 Nice fix on the deck and side, Michael.
 
 Question on the area you removed. You cut at straight angles, I would have expected angled cuts (45 .. 72.5 deg), as it should be easier to fit and the join would be easier to hide.
 
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				 Elijah reacted to amateur in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model Elijah reacted to amateur in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model
 Little steps, but it looks like progress, though.
 At all pictures, i keep seeing fractures and damages I didnt see before. That model must have hit the ground with a heavy thud.....
 
 jan
 
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				 Elijah reacted to michael mott in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model Elijah reacted to michael mott in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model
 Thanks for your thoughts on this area Druxey and Carl.
 
 Before I glue on the lifeboat deck I still needed to fix the top part of the lifeboat deck structure.
 
 
 
 I set up a flat plate that I could use as a guide for the pairing chisel.
 
 
 
 
 
 Once the damaged area was removed I fitted a new piece of maple this will get painted on the top inside edge before it gets glued in place.
 
 
 
 
 
 A lot of little steps it seems.
 
 Michael
 
 
 
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 No scrap that Idea, that they were locators only. The headless pins are for the lifeboats. The side sheet ones are small headed pins, it will still work though, I pushed a couple of pins in partially and the side wall will lean out.
 
 So the deck will be glued first.
 
 Michael
 
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 Yes, that rotation is also what I meant, Michael. If those pins are headless that should make it much easier. You would not have to push them home.
 
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 Quite Michael, that's about exactly what I meant
 
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 Druxey and Carl thinking more about this after your comments and having a closer look at the pins I think that it will be possible do something very similar the difficulty is mostly at the bow end as the next illustration shows.
 
 
 
 This come closer to what you have suggested Carl
 
 Michael
 
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 Is it possible to push the B pins in when you mount the side to the main deck. I.e. you have the pins fitted to the side at a slight angle to allow pushing them in straight, then you push the side straight and fixate it to the lifeboat deck
 
 
 
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 I agree with your reconstruction of the original sequence of construction, Michael. Can you partially insert the 'B' pins so that the side wall can be moved outward at the top, the lifeboat deck secured, then the 'B' pins driven home before driving the 'A' pins? You'd need a specially bent tool and dental inspection mirror to drive the 'B' pins home, but that should be a piece of cake for you!
 
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				 Elijah reacted to michael mott in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model Elijah reacted to michael mott in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model
 John thanks for the compliment.
 
 I am wondering what the members think of my next issue.
 
 the following picture shows a partial cross section of the hull and side wall.
 
 
 
 What I am concerned about is the sequence of gluing the fractured part of the deck back on before I put the side on.
 
 If I do that it will be difficult to put the pins in at B the pins at at A are not a problem
 
 If I put the side back on first it become quite difficult to slip the lifeboat deck part back into place especially at the bow end.
 
 I am thinking that Possibly I could use a clear silicone glue at the base of the side wall and slide it in after the lifeboat deck is glued and set.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 Michael
 
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				 Elijah reacted to Jim Lad in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model Elijah reacted to Jim Lad in Albertic by michael mott - FINISHED - Scale 1:100 - RESTORATION - Bassett-Lowke Model
 Been away for the weekend, Michael. That really is superb work that you're doing there!
 
 John
 
 
		 
        