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Remember when I said translating scale can sometimes be difficult? Welcome to difficult. I remeasured the mast locations and it appears I can fudge. Since Vlad misplaced the main mast slightly forward….. and thus caused the mizzen to also be relocated just enough forward to compensate. I think the offset poop pushed everything forward 2 scale feet. The slightly long poop deck does not reduce the overall appearance, since everything measures correctly forward of it. I’ll just redo the poop furniture. No problem. Rob
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Apart from my oversized companionway , skylight and steering box....my portico is still good. I'll remake or modify these items to make them fit the slimmer profile. By the way, Luis' overhead profile drawing is pretty much what I was thinking. She is slightly narrower amidship then the 40ft , but that can easily be corrected. Also, the main cabin in this drawing looks more like what I am experiencing with my main cabin. It takes up more deck space then I had anticipated...but with the narrower beam and seeing it drawn out makes more sense. Rob
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I began to scale out your drawing, and at amidship you have her 40ft...if this is the measuring stick then, your poop deck length is also 40ft...4 ft short. Placing her sternpost 7ft inboard of her taffrail, we can see that you correctly made her 24.6ft at 8ft. Personally, I think her lines are sharper...and if you draw from her widest point amidship back toward her narrowest (24.6ft)..you will have that, "Smallness of her stern" idea, McLean describes. She is also, "Uncommonly sharp forward". Again, looking at Butterworth's painting, we can clearly see the almost exaggerated narrowness of the vessel, once you establish her greatest breadth amidship. Butterworth, painted Glory of the Seas, and he is very accurate and paid close attention to dimensional accuracy. No reason why we can't continue to trust his perceptions. Rob
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Rich. I’ve spent some time making similar half comparisons of the McKay half model. And she produced a similar overhead profile as with your Champelle’ drawing. Compare the narrow aft section, aft of midship to Buttersworth’s painting of FC. I know this painting is not just a characterization of the real ship. I think it is a depiction of the actual narrow hull this model of clipper had. Rob
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Weathered the hull and painted the scroll work Rob
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Set the house and deck furniture to see. Rob
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Provide an image of your dilemma. Rob
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I've decided to proceed as I did with Glory....and do the decking and bulwarks first...before going on with the coppering. More to follow. Rob
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I thought that through, thoroughly before I added the scrolling. However, I did not want Staghound to be a *repeat* of Glory of the Seas. It is true, we do not know what her embellishments were fully, and as with the Great Admiral....I wanted a bit of difference on her stem. I know the true structure of the McKay *hood* has been concluded to be the structure that would find no alterations from clipper model to clipper model, in the McKay line-up. With that being said , I'm going to keep the scrolling as is, for the time being. IMHV, it actually individualizes, the detailing of her stem/cutwater. I have both models to make comparisons to, and it is enough of a difference to make her distinction all the more profound. We'll see what she looks like after the gilding of her scroll work is complete and the staghound is installed. Rob(I hope you understand my point)
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I will add the channels later, once the mast rake is established. Weathering will take place as well. Rob
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Finished the planksheer molding and put down a coat of black paint. Lots of sanding between coats. Gotta finish off with a dull coat. Rob
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Here is what it looks like between the hood and hull/cutwater. Rob
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One thing I'm finding out is these early McKay clippers were quite small compared to the later ones that were over 2000 tons and more. Even though Staghound was the largest commercial vessel of her type during her launching...she and her sisters were very narrow in breath. Staghound was only an amazing 24.5ft across just forward of her binnacle. Note this Butterworth painting of a clipper (probably FC) and the scale of men to the ship....not to mention the deck furniture and houses. Everything seams large on deck. Butterworth was known for his scale proportions being correct. So it all seems quite small on deck.
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It's funny Rich. I feel like I'm building another Glory, in a way. However, I know enough to add some slight alterations to make her *unique*...since little is known about her particular ornamentation and trim work. Artistic license is one of my favorite certifications.... Rob
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I'm glad you were able to learn something from all the input (That's what it's all about) 🤩. Especially the *hood* discussions. Rich and I, along with decades of research from our friend author and historian Mike Mjelde...we have concluded the validity of said McKay *Hood*. I'm not prone to use a lot of acid etched scrolling....but in this case, since no real concrete evidence exists about what type/kind/detailing scroll work was on Staghound other than McLean's *thin* descriptions such as, "carved work, devices, and Neatly executed ornamentation", I chose to use scrolling provided by Bluejacket...for their clipper, Redjacket. I had to heavily modify, cut, bend, reform, their wares, for my purposes. I'm not afraid to use, rework, or modify someone else's engineered material for my clippers. I prefer to scratch build myself. But I am lazy too. Rob
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Unlike an externally suspended Headboard...the McKay *Hood* is part of the hull and cutwater. In essence strongly joining the two. I'll take a picture of the fillet, I had to fashion between. It simply fills the space and is bolted firmly, making it all one piece. I already painted them with the hoods,,..but you can see how it fills against the two structures. Thanks for noticing. Rob
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Thanks Pat. Still got minor planksheer moldings left to do and half round molding under the main rail. I corrected the stem, adjusted the hoods, and will be painting the hull black soon. Rob
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Did some work today. Adding the planksheer. Masked off the black hull. Rob
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I cut it back and blended it into the cutwater.
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I'm thinking of cutting in the angle a bit more. Cutting into the darker wood...to slightly harmonize the vertical and the curved. I think I might have added a bit to much to the curve...filling it out a bit too much. No problem. I'll add that to the several adjustments I need to make before moving on to finishing up the planksheer molding. Rob
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Problem is...the outer stem from the foot of the stem...is more vertical from McKay's half model, then these drawings depict. I went with McKay's half model profile. Double check for yourself. so are you saying your own drawing is incorrect? Rob
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Rich. I see what you are saying....however, after great reflection and profiling from every painting we have of her....it appears to me that the correction I performed makes her stem more of the upward angle also described by McLean, "The cutwater is tapered to an angle". Are you suggesting I cut it back to my original curve? Back to the original stem line, I had originally cut...without the addition? I supose I could cut the stem back half way...to mimic more like Glory. Rob
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A little scroll work. Rob
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Both sides are done. Now to finish the plank sheet molding.
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Fabed the port hood. Rob
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