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  1. Cirdan
    The Tudgay painting shows them (stanchions + rails) white. As John Sankey [see https://www.johnsankey.ca/cuttysarkpaint.html ] pointed out, such paintings were often not too reliable, but as Willis was the owner of the painting we possibly can assume, that it is relatively accurate. It is hard to say, if they were made of brass at the Denny model, as the only picture published in the net is not a very good one. Both, the Tudgay painting and the Denny model show the Cutty Sark in her early days. Denny model: https://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/1113791.html Tudgay painting: https://artuk.org/discover/artworks/cutty-sark-194307#
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    Don't worry. The overall impression of the model makes this small weakness almost disappear.
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    There is a model of the tea clipper Ariel made by I.W. Marsh, a friend of Donald McNarry and himself a very good modeller. The pictures show masts and yards painted in a colour which seems to be white or something like Grey (but only the lower masts, as far as I can see). I wonder if it could be this "white last coat zinc". The difference to the white color of the boats can be clearly seen. https://www.charlesmillerltd.com/auction/lot/315-AN-EXCEPTIONALLY-FINE-196-SCALE-STATIC-DISPLAY-MODEL-OF-THE-FAMOUS-COMPOSITE-TEA-CLIPPER-ARIEL-ORIGINALLY-BUILT-BY-ROBERT-STEELE--CO-1865/?lot=13376&sd=1
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    Yes, I agree too. After a long, hard day, I look at these photos and regenerate 🙂 That's exactly what I always wanted to achieve with my own build of this kit some time in future. And I'll shamelessly steal all the ideas from this build log 😄. Of course, I will always give the link to this thread.
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    Does pt. 62 of the original specification by Willis (post 99 by shipman) suggest, that not only the lower masts, but all spars and yards were originally painted white? see point 62: "Masts and Spars white last coat zinc".
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    Hallo Shipman, do you mean this illustration in Cyril Humes Booklet "Cutty Sark. Last of the racing clippers" (sorry for the bad quality)? The source is from the Science Museum, so I think it refers to Longridges Cutty Sark model although only a unspecified clipper is mentioned. And the angled forefoot belongs undoubtedly to the Cutty Sark. But the device above the usual position of the windlass (don't know it in english) shows, that such a windlass or winch must be present under the forecastle deck. See the following drawings in Longridges Book:
  7. Cirdan
    Yes, indeed. The line of thread would be the wrong choice.
  8. Cirdan
    I agree totally!
  9. Cirdan
    This is hard to believe! Your improvements are once again very inspiring. How did you make the eyebolts? They look nearly perfect, even in this scale.
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    This photos show the Cutty Sark in her days at Falmouth from 1922 to 1938. She was restored in accordance to her early days. The 2nd photo shows the middle ladder to the forecastle as it is shown by the Longridge model and the "early model of the Cutty Sark". https://nmmc.co.uk/2019/11/150-years-of-the-cutty-sark/ [If you copy the URL of the photo into the adress bar of your browser you can see a high resolution pic. Due to the copyright I can't post it directly.] We can assume that this (in the eyes of the restorer) was the original look of the forecastle. There are no pin rails. In the days of captain Woodget it was altered into the arrangement we can see today.
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    Is it from the time under the command of captain Woodget? The forecastle arrangement seems to be the same than today.
  12. Cirdan
    Hello Bruma, I am happy that I was able to help. I find the way you do the kit is inspiring.
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    Because I own the Revell Cutty Sark kit myself and plan to build it at some point in future, I am personally interested in these questions. But, as shipman already said, there is nothing we know for sure. There is an early model of the Cutty Sark which shows a ladder in the middle of the forecastle and a series of belaying pins on both sides: https://www.johnsankey.ca/cuttysarkmodel.html . Of course the fact, that the model may be built in the 19th Century, perhaps around the construction date of the original ship, does'nt mean that it has to be an accurate model. And I couldn't find any information about this model on any other website. But in terms of the belaying nails and the position of the ladder, it is roughly the same as Longridge's model. Then we have the "Denny Model" built by Sir Maurice Denny in 1934. Denny Bros. was the shipyard which finished the Cutty Sark after Scott & Linton went bankrupt. We can assume, that Denny had enough information of the original ship to build his model in accordance with the original data. But to verify this we have to go to the Denny Museum in Dumbarton or the National Maritime Museum where the model is now kept. An there is no really good picture of the model in the net which can show us anything we want to know: https://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/1113791.html A good reference may be the the model by Cyril Hume (1932), because Hume was a serious researcher an he spoke to men who sailed on the Cutty Sark, and he asked them especially about rigging details. But we have the same problem here as with the Denny model: there are no really good pictures. In this case, probably because the model seems to be in need of considerable repair: https://collection.maas.museum/object/237188 Cyril Humes model of the Thermopylae in the same museum is, however, very good documented in pictures. And last but not least there is an interesting website by a modeller who has dealt extensively with rigging an belaying issues. At the end of the following page he offers a belaying plan of the Cutty Sark: http://www.jans-sajt.se/contents/Navigation/Modelling/R_CuttySark.htm Maybe this information helps a little.
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    I think black yards were common in those days. As far as I know only the Thermopylae had white yards. Unfortunately I cannot offer any help regarding the pin rails.
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    The source is correct: Basil Lubbock, The Log of the Cutty Sark. Glasgow 2004 (4th reprint of the original edition of 1924), Chapter 2, p. 31.
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    Hello Bruma, nice to see your work progressing. And I agree totally with shipman: your tarpaulins are very convincing. Hope to see progress again soon. 😉
  17. Cirdan
    It's a very fine and beautiful work and it is hard to believe that this is your first model.
  18. Cirdan
    I saw your Model on Finescale Modeler in a more advanced stage and i'm lucky to see it here too. In fact it is one of the most beautiful Revell Cutty Sarks in the net. 👍 It will be one of my personal reference models for my own revell cutty sark some time in future.
  19. Cirdan
    Hello Doris, perhaps you can't hear any more compliments, but this is absolutely great! I saw your Victory and your Sovereign and now the Caroline und i must say that your skill becomes better and better! Good luck, Hartmut.

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