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  1. Cirdan
    Very nice work on the trusses (of course not only on them) 👍👍
  2. Cirdan
    You are not only a master modeller, you are also a master of understatement!
  3. Cirdan
    Oh yes, that happens too often, especially with clippers. But once again you show us a first-class work. I have never seen it better in this scale.
  4. Cirdan
    Very interesting project. I'm looking forward to be part of this process. 👍
  5. Cirdan
    Yes, and I think Steven is right to do so. Even the Vasa longboat is double ended and shows cones or stoppers for steering oars aft (see Dafi's pics). Of course at this time (1628) this kind of steering may be a little anachronistic. Most boats painted by Vroom show a flat transom. I found a painting of 1616 by van Wieringen, that also shows a double ended boat: https://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/12215.html I think the stoppers aft for the steering oars are visible. Hartmut
  6. Cirdan
    Dafi refers to the discussion on page 8 of this build log, where the question was raised whether the boats were double-ended or not. https://modelshipworld.com/topic/12426-henry-grace-a-dieu-great-harry-by-louie-da-fly-scale-1200-repaired-after-over-50-yrs-of-neglect/page/8/?tab=comments#comment-786313
  7. Cirdan
    But even then it's an excellent job 👍👍
  8. Cirdan
    Wow! Excellent work! Did you sand the yards without the help of an electrical device? Only by hand drill?
  9. Cirdan
    Yes. I think Mr Maltsev only built scratch models. I'm also impresssed with the gilded carvings at the bow and the stern, especially as it is done in scale 1:100.
  10. Cirdan
    Hi shipman, sometimes (just now) the link works and leads me directly to the model. I don't know why.
  11. Cirdan
    Thank you Kirill! I very much wish to see this model finished. But even unfinished it is a great model. Sad to hear that Mr. Dobrenko also passed away. He was a very active man in the forum.
  12. Cirdan
    Sorry, the link to the model no longer works after one day. It appears only the Forum website. I take the risk of posting a few saved images and hope that this will not be seen as a copyright infringement in this case. If an administrator does not agree, please delete the images or the post.
  13. Cirdan
    Dear Kirill, many years ago I discovered a superb model of Cutty Sark in scale 1:100 by a russian modeler (Mikhail Maltsev), who died and left his model unfinished: http://forum.modelsworld.ru/post172874.html#p172874 Do you know what happened to the model? Was it finished by another modeller? Are there any pictures in the net? Dear Marco, sorry for misusing your build log for this kind of research. But who knows better about a russian model than a russian modeller.
  14. Cirdan
    Dear Kirill, Thank you for bringing these volumes back to my mind!
  15. Cirdan
    You can read the volumes online via the following link. If I remember correctly, they could also be downloaded directly from the Cutty Sark Trust until a few years ago. This is also possible here under this link, but only if you register. https://www.yumpu.com/en/Cutty_Sark_Conservation
  16. Cirdan
    I think this applies to the time before the Armada period. Indeed this variety of guns was found on the wreck of the Mary Rose. But the "Queens Ships" (the Royal Navy of the time) from about 1570 onwards tended to standardization. As far as I know the Revenge had cast bronze guns although guns could already be cast from iron in England at this time.
  17. Cirdan
    Mine is probably Cirdan. But I like the sound of the name "Glorfindel". Your work is nice and accurate 👍. But I wonder, if a ship like the Revenge had wrought bronze guns. At this time (at about 30 - 40 years after the loss of the Mary Rose) I beg that only minor ships may have used them.
  18. Cirdan
    Good idea! During the rigging work, however, one should not exactly hear the passages in which hobbits or dwarfs get caught and wrapped in webs of large, evil spiders. 😉 There is no chance. It is privately owned, one of the few pics can be found in Bryce Walker's book. I's relatively small, so details are not really visible. Here is a picture in higher resolution, but in b/w: https://rkd.nl/nl/explore/images/record?query=de+Maecht&start=11 The differences to the Smerwick sketch are clearly visible (ornaments, stern gallery...), but the basic type is the same.
  19. Cirdan
    In an article Ian Friel states, that the Revenge had three masts. He did some research in the former State Paper Office (now the National Archives), but he unfortunately doesn't name the documents that validate the Revenge being a 3-master. There is a little chance, that after the renovation of 1588 the ship got 4 masts. There is a tapestry called "The last fight of the Revenge" which shows the ship in 1591 in combat with 3 spanish ships. This tapestry shows her with 4 Masts. The tapestry is also depicted in Bryce Walkers book. The designer of the tapestry was Hendrik C. Vroom. But the ships in such representative masterworks are often depicted not too accurate. I think the main reason, why all models of the Revenge show 4 masts can be seen in the fact, that they are all based on the drawing Folio 115 by Baker (see above, the galleon with the 4 masted sail plan). For the hull I think this drawing is the best choice. Yes, you are right. I love Tolkien and I love historic ships, so I have tried to concentrate my passions in one name 🙂.
  20. Cirdan
    Hi shipman, thank you. This pic undoubtedly shows a square forefoot. Some problems seem to be unsolvable. Perhaps some minor alterations were made without drawing a new plan (square or rounded forefoot). The plate of the first picture from the Scottish Maritime Museum states, that the builder of this model was one Peter Steel, so it seems clear, that it is not the Denny model, which was built by Sir Maurice Denny.
  21. Cirdan
    In fact there is a depiction of the Revenge, albeit a very rough one on the so called "smerwick map". You can find this map in Bryce Walkers book on the Armada ("The Seafarers" series) I think on page 18. Here is a section: Of course the proportions are distorted as the ribbon of ornaments at the height of the rail was exaggrated very much. And the colour scheme of the ornaments is simplified: it is hard to believe that the only colours were red and white. The sketches can be seen as rough portraits of the real ships as they were inserted as part of an actual operation report (the Bombardement of Fort Smerwick in Ireland in 1580). The Revenge is depicted with only three masts (with the mizzen at a position very much near the stern). A hint relating the colours of the ornaments is given in Oppenheims "A history of the administration of the Royal Navy" on p 130: for the Revenge the main colours were green and white.
  22. Cirdan
    In Eric Kentley's book on the Cutty Sark an original plan by John Rennie is shown on pp 36/37. Rennie was the chief draughtsman of Scott & Linton. The plan is housed in the Glasgow Museums Collection. I did some research on it in the net a while ago but with no result. So I cannot say, when it was discovered. As far as I can see the forefoot is not so much angled than the Underhill plan (and the "original" ship in Greenwich) shows. In this respect the Campbell plan (and the Revell kit) seems to be more accurate. But I wonder if this document was consulted for the recent restoration.
  23. Cirdan
    To be honest I must admit that I don't know the exact time when the white sheer line was introduced. But in the early years of the ship it was not white but light brown or in brass colour. Perhaps the switch happened at the same time as she began her career as a woolclipper.
  24. Cirdan
    Hmm...but I think this model is not the Denny model. At least it's not the model that is shown as "Denny model" in the NMM.
  25. Cirdan
    But, as Marco shows the ship with the white sheer line, which it only had in Captain Woodget's time, one should be historically correct if the railing and stanchions are shown in white.

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