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hamilton got a reaction from GGibson in Bluenose staysail halliard - confusion
Hi there:
I have some confusion about how the staysail halliard on the Bluenose would have been rigged. The plans provide two views of the halliard (see below)
The upper and lower blocks seem obvious - one seized to the peak of the sail, the other seized to an eye on the main topmast. But in the image with the three blocks, the line just seems to circle between a standing end on a ring, through the block on the sail, up to the block on the mast, down to a third, hooked block - but where does this third block go? There is talk in the explanation to the right in the image of it being hooked to the sheer pole - ok....but then there is talk of the "running end" of the line, which doesn't seem to exist in that drawing.....has anyone come up with an interpretation of this element who can share it with me?
Thanks a lot
hamilton
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hamilton reacted to wefalck in Bluenose staysail halliard - confusion
I am not an expert on these, but looking at the arrangement and reading the explanatory text, it appears that the idea was to lead each of the halliards to different sides of the boat. In practice only one would be worked, persumably the windward one, as the leeward belaying point might be awash when racing. I think that is the idea, as otherwise there is no mechanical advantage over a single halliard.
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hamilton got a reaction from Nirvana in Bluenose by hamilton - 1:64 - POB - from Model Shipways plans
Furled sails seem a challenge - I know that they are fabricated differently than when they are displayed set, but I've never tried doing furled sails myself....I've always admired the way they look, and I think that as a display option they probably read as more authentic in the context of a static model ship - looking forward to seeing your experiments!
hamilton
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hamilton got a reaction from Knocklouder in Bluenose 1921 by GGibson - Model Shipways - 1:64
Your Bluenose is shaping up beautifully, Gregg - I love the idea of the furled sails - I feel like I read a tutorial on fabricating furled sails somewhere - either on here or in the article database of the Nautical Research Guild home page - I'll see if I can't locate this or something and pass it on.
hamilton
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hamilton got a reaction from GGibson in Bluenose 1921 by GGibson - Model Shipways - 1:64
Your Bluenose is shaping up beautifully, Gregg - I love the idea of the furled sails - I feel like I read a tutorial on fabricating furled sails somewhere - either on here or in the article database of the Nautical Research Guild home page - I'll see if I can't locate this or something and pass it on.
hamilton
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hamilton got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Bluenose by hamilton - 1:64 - POB - from Model Shipways plans
OK - I promise I actually do have a job and it is about to get very busy...but once again I seem to have found some time today to fabricate and rig the stay sail....I won't belabour things with long explanations - things went pretty smoothly - I did simplify the halliard rig, as this is one area where the plans (otherwise very clear and readable) are a bit confounding.....anyways, here are the pictures - I actually also fabricated the jumbo jib sail, but I think I need to adjust the pattern for the model as built - the one I've made is a smidge too big.....bye for now
hamilton
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hamilton got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Bluenose by hamilton - 1:64 - POB - from Model Shipways plans
One more photo - in a burst of activity, knowing work's going to kick in seriously for a bit, I managed to fabricate and rig the fore topsail! Here's a last pick for the day.
hamilton
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hamilton got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Bluenose by hamilton - 1:64 - POB - from Model Shipways plans
Hello there:
Another quick update on Bluenose - the foresail is now rigged onto the model. This was a more or less straightforward process, and I learned from my rigging of the mainsail to fasten lines with relative tension rather than one at a time! It's been so long (2016) since I rigged any model that I feel like I'm learning things all over again.....anyway, here are the photos. Next it's on to the fore topsail.....but since I'm heading into a few weeks of very intense work I may not get to this for a bit.....enjoy the photos
hamilton
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hamilton got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Bluenose by hamilton - 1:64 - POB - from Model Shipways plans
Hello all:
I found an opportunity yesterday to spend almost the entire day at the work bench - what could be finer or more relaxing than throwing on an audiobook and doing some rigging and sail making?
I had a couple of small tasks to complete for rigging the mainsail - lacing the sail to the boom & gaff and tying on the mast hoops. This got done fairly quickly, so I decided to move on to the main topsail. I stitched the sail, and added eyelets and rigging elements, which is about as much as I could accomplish yesterday. This morning, I rigged the sail onto the model and then, in a fit of ambition, decided to start on the foresail. I traced the sail form onto the cloth and marked out the seams and reef bands and then stitched the entire sail before I realised I had done the whole thing backwards - I stiched on the port side of the sail, but the model is built for a starboard side display!! I managed to retrace it before my modelling time ran out, but completion will have to wait for another day - going to go play some mini golf with the family.
To all the Canucks, happy Thanksgiving!! Enjoy the long weekend and the photos
hamilton
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hamilton got a reaction from GGibson in Bluenose by hamilton - 1:64 - POB - from Model Shipways plans
Furled sails seem a challenge - I know that they are fabricated differently than when they are displayed set, but I've never tried doing furled sails myself....I've always admired the way they look, and I think that as a display option they probably read as more authentic in the context of a static model ship - looking forward to seeing your experiments!
hamilton
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hamilton got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Bluenose by hamilton - 1:64 - POB - from Model Shipways plans
Hello there:
I've now started rigging the main sail - a lot of elements to juggle here! The first step was to lash the sail to the boom and gaff and the clew, toe, throat and peak - the eyelets I added to the mainsail helped here, though I wish I had blackened them first....an oversight (or overeagerness) on my part. Regardless, After trying to rig the throat and peak halliards with the boom and gaff "loose", I added small brass nails to the ends of these parts and drilled holes on the main mast so the spars could be anchored in place to ease the rigging.
I also had to undo the tackles on the flying backstays since these were really getting in the way - I'll re-do these once the main sail and main topsail are finished. In any case, at this point I've put in the parrell ropes (but not added parrells or tied them off) and rigged the peak and throat halliards and tackles. There is still a lot to do here - including lacing the sails onto the gaff and boom, the sheets and boom crutch tackles, the topping lift and quarterlifts and the lazy jacks - I installed the flag halliard today, so that's taken care of at least - and of course I'll need to tie on the mast hoops and parrells.....sheesh! Then onto the topsail.....
Bye for now and happy modelling
hamilton
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hamilton got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Bluenose by hamilton - 1:64 - POB - from Model Shipways plans
Managed to get in a couple of hours at the bench today and can report some progress on the sails. I made patterns a little while back for all the sails - you can see these arrayed in the first photo below - and transferred the pattern for the fore sail to some thin fabric I had lying around (nothing like ship modelling if you want to end up with a lot of random stuff just lying around...or maybe that's just life...) for experiments with the sewing machine.
After a lot of work wrestling with that demonic device, I finally got into a rhythm where the threads weren't seizing up and doing all kinds of annoying things. Feeling daring, I transferred the patterns for the main sail and main topmast sail to the cloth and started stitching the main sail - just the reef bands and outside "hems" - not sure how generally to refer to these....I forgot how time consuming making sails is!! I imagine I'll be at this for a couple of weeks given the limited time I have these days....Anyways, here are some photos - the sail patterns and some shots of the main sale with a piece of ceramic Swiss cheese for scale comparison.
Happy modelling and bye for now
hamilton
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hamilton got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Bluenose by hamilton - 1:64 - POB - from Model Shipways plans
Very quick update - made some patterns for the mainsail and main topmast sail. Took a tracing from the plans, transferred this to bristol board using carbon paper and then trimmed up the bristol board patterns until the seemed to fit reasonably on the model as-built. It's been a long time since I made sails for any model - and I was never as expert a hand at it as some on the forum. But this weekend, I'm going to haul the sewing machine out and see if my wife will be willing to show me (again) how to thread the damnable thing...I'm sure that a bit of casual experimentation over the weekend will refresh my memory, right? HAHAHA!!
I think I'm going to invest in a little eyelet tool so I can add grommets to the sails, but I have to see if I can find something for this purpose - what do other people do/use for this?
Bye for now and hope you all have a great weekend
hamilton
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hamilton got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Bluenose by hamilton - 1:64 - POB - from Model Shipways plans
Thanks for the comments Nearshore and Gregg!
Another quick update - I spent the last couple of days fabricating and outfitting the main boom - a relatively straightforward process. I'll complete the main gaff and then make the mainsail and main topmast sail before adding all these elements to the model and moving forward. Here are some photos - hope all are well!
hamilton
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hamilton got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Bluenose by hamilton - 1:64 - POB - from Model Shipways plans
Well - it's finally time for a real update on the build. I've been working on the standing rigging and this is something I always have trouble documenting because of my poor camera skills and equipment (iPhone).....but now that the standing rigging is almost done (only the fore lower shroud ratlines and fore spreader lift ratlines plus the fore topmast shrouds to complete) I can share the progress.
I won't spend too much time with descriptions here other than to say that I did not pay enough attention to the plans and ended up tying the ratlines across all four lower main shrouds instead of the first three with an occasional extension to the fourth.....I know I talked about historical accuracy above as something I'm not too concerned about, but this one sticks in the craw a bit - though I'm sure eventually I'll reconcile myself to it....
In any case, I really enjoy the rigging process - probably my favourite part of any build - as it really brings the model to life in such a big way. Even ratlines aren't too bad with a good podcast or audiobook!
Next to give myself a bit of a break, I'm going to fabricate the main boom and gaff and the main sail and main topmast sail and rig those up before moving on to completing standing rigging on the foremast. Enjoy the photos all and bye for now
hamilton
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hamilton got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Bluenose by hamilton - 1:64 - POB - from Model Shipways plans
Hello again:
In a burst of activity today I managed to outfit the fore mast and fore topmast - they are now assembled as a single structure, but not yet installed on the model. I'll wait to do this until I've finished outfitting the main mast and topmast and I'm ready to begin the rigging, though some rigging elements (the spreader lifts and ratlines) will be installed first. The process was mostly trouble free, though the results are a little wonky....I've been trying a new blackening agent that is not very good - so the pieces look...well more rusted than anything...I may try to dab some black paint on them to tone them down a bit but we'll see....I don't know why the new blackening agent I was using today ended up flaking so badly - I bathed the brass in acetone and rinsed with water before blackening and then tried just putting them straight in the blackening solution, but in both cases the results were equally poor....I may try diluting the blackening liquid more to see if that helps, but honestly I'm at a loss....the old Blacken-It (no longer available in Canada) is sorely missed!!! Any tips from pros out there would be appreciated.
Enjoy the photos and bye for now
hamilton
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hamilton reacted to GGibson in Bluenose by hamilton - 1:64 - POB - from Model Shipways plans
Really looking nice with the rigging and sails, hamilton!
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hamilton got a reaction from Nirvana in Bluenose by hamilton - 1:64 - POB - from Model Shipways plans
OK - I promise I actually do have a job and it is about to get very busy...but once again I seem to have found some time today to fabricate and rig the stay sail....I won't belabour things with long explanations - things went pretty smoothly - I did simplify the halliard rig, as this is one area where the plans (otherwise very clear and readable) are a bit confounding.....anyways, here are the pictures - I actually also fabricated the jumbo jib sail, but I think I need to adjust the pattern for the model as built - the one I've made is a smidge too big.....bye for now
hamilton
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hamilton got a reaction from Nirvana in Bluenose by hamilton - 1:64 - POB - from Model Shipways plans
One more photo - in a burst of activity, knowing work's going to kick in seriously for a bit, I managed to fabricate and rig the fore topsail! Here's a last pick for the day.
hamilton
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hamilton got a reaction from Knocklouder in Bluenose by hamilton - 1:64 - POB - from Model Shipways plans
OK - I promise I actually do have a job and it is about to get very busy...but once again I seem to have found some time today to fabricate and rig the stay sail....I won't belabour things with long explanations - things went pretty smoothly - I did simplify the halliard rig, as this is one area where the plans (otherwise very clear and readable) are a bit confounding.....anyways, here are the pictures - I actually also fabricated the jumbo jib sail, but I think I need to adjust the pattern for the model as built - the one I've made is a smidge too big.....bye for now
hamilton
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hamilton got a reaction from gjdale in Bluenose by hamilton - 1:64 - POB - from Model Shipways plans
One more photo - in a burst of activity, knowing work's going to kick in seriously for a bit, I managed to fabricate and rig the fore topsail! Here's a last pick for the day.
hamilton
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hamilton got a reaction from gjdale in Bluenose by hamilton - 1:64 - POB - from Model Shipways plans
Hello there:
Another quick update on Bluenose - the foresail is now rigged onto the model. This was a more or less straightforward process, and I learned from my rigging of the mainsail to fasten lines with relative tension rather than one at a time! It's been so long (2016) since I rigged any model that I feel like I'm learning things all over again.....anyway, here are the photos. Next it's on to the fore topsail.....but since I'm heading into a few weeks of very intense work I may not get to this for a bit.....enjoy the photos
hamilton
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hamilton got a reaction from GGibson in Bluenose by hamilton - 1:64 - POB - from Model Shipways plans
One more photo - in a burst of activity, knowing work's going to kick in seriously for a bit, I managed to fabricate and rig the fore topsail! Here's a last pick for the day.
hamilton
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hamilton got a reaction from Knocklouder in Bluenose by hamilton - 1:64 - POB - from Model Shipways plans
One more photo - in a burst of activity, knowing work's going to kick in seriously for a bit, I managed to fabricate and rig the fore topsail! Here's a last pick for the day.
hamilton
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hamilton got a reaction from GGibson in Bluenose by hamilton - 1:64 - POB - from Model Shipways plans
True, Gregg! But as I crest the middle of middle age the remembering is taking longer and longer!
hamilton
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