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CPDDET

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  1. Build logs of the same model are extremely helpful. Different methods to attain the same goal teach us all. Even experienced builders can, with an open mind, learn from beginners.
  2. It has taken me a bit to research the building of the transom but finally got it done. Installed the upper, middle and lower transom support pieces. When Mathew built his RC model he double planked the hull and transom. So he first planked the transom vertical, which gave him plenty of surface area for the final horizontal planking. But I’m only using one layer of planking so I decided to add filler blocks to create more surface area. I used balsa wood for the filler blocks which worked really well. Never used balsa in the shipyard before but I will know keep some on hand. Cuts very easily, sands down very quickly and easy to shape. Only drawback is its softness, so have to go easy on clamping as it dents quite easily. Lucky for me all of this will be covered with cherry planking. I will plank the transom prior to installing it on the build board as the hull planking will overlap the exposed edge of the transom planks. This is easily seen on photos of the original boat in Cuba. The original boat was built with a forward cockpit as seen here in Mathew’s build. Sometime in the past it was decked over, leaving just a deck hatch. I understand that Hemingway got tired of the forward cockpit taking on water. In any case the original boat has undergone numerous repairs and modifications over the years due to wood rot, water and hurricane damage. Mathew has done extensive research on the boat and included a lot of documentation in his build log. When he was building his model he didn’t originally include the forward cockpit and decided to add it later, lucky I caught this while reading through his 32 page build log. It was a tricky thing to do but, as always, he did a beautiful job. I want to build it before planking the hull so I can get my hands in at it. I didn’t have the exact measurements but found them on the line drawing which I noticed while reading his log. For some reason I didn’t rescale and have printed Mathew’s line drawing of Pilar. So it was back to the printer to have that done. This will be a big help. Another issue caused by my decision to build this plank on bulkhead instead of plank on frame. Obviously the top of the bulkhead has to be lower in the area of the rear cockpit to accommodate the sole. I forgot to allow for this, but the line drawing will be a big help in making this adjustment on several bulkheads. I haven’t glued any bulkheads onto the build board yet, so that will make this adjustment much easier. As well as building the forward cockpit before hull and deck planking.
  3. Don't know how far you want to take your hull planking but vessels were planked with either a 3 butt or 4 butt shift system.
  4. Welcome, you've found a great resource!
  5. The NRG Half Hull gave me a much better understanding of spiling. But still requires practice. If done correctly, very little if any clamping is required. Edge bending is a method I've yet to try but would like to master both.
  6. Just keeping it moving back and forth, not leaving it in one place too long may help.
  7. I'm thinking 2 different things when it comes to the marks on the wood. Either the iron is too hot ( you can check that with an instant read thermometer) or there is some kind of minerals in the water causing it. You could try distilled water. Good to see you making progress!
  8. Welcome!
  9. It's your model and there are no rules to adhere to on this site. Do what brings you pleasure
  10. You can always send yourself an email from your phone, with photos attached and then open the email on your computer and save the images.
  11. Welcome! Challenges like this are part of the learning process, we all have them.
  12. Patrick did an expert job. I'm hoping to get close to his level of perfection. Going to be quite a ride!
  13. OK. My iron, on a medium setting, heats to about 330 degrees. Water turns to steam at 212 so the iron is plenty hot to do that. I can apply the iron to a dry piece of basswood for more than 30 seconds, keeping it in one place, and see no signs of scorching.
  14. Remember, it's the heat thats used to bend wood, not the water. Steam is used because it can heat wood without burning it. When you touch a hot iron to moist wood it creates steam which heats the wood and allows it to bend. Some people soak planks but I find that causes the wood to swell too much, at least for me. Try a few different methods and see what works best for you. I'll take a temp reading of my iron and let you know what that is. I know it dosent burn the wood and I can hear the hiss of steam when I use it.
  15. For me, it's a struggle to keep a balance on how far to go with authenticity. I can tend to overdo.
  16. You can either use spiling, as real ships were done, or plank bending. I tend to use a combination of both. The NRG Half Hull kit does a decent job of teaching spiling. When I do bend, I just "paint" the plank with a thin layer of water and then apply heat. Many times I do this on the model. For example, I will use spiling instead of edge bending to shape the plank. Then glue one end of the plank in place, brush on a bit of water and apply heat while bending the other end of the plank in place. This process is used almost exclusively at the bow and stern. Just use spiling for the planks in-between. Be advised, spiling has a definite learning curve.
  17. Welcome aboard! Seems you're a skilled modeler and should have few problems building wooden ship models.
  18. All of the bulkhead supports are now in place. Next up was prepping the bulkheads. I want to tack the bulkheads in place once they are correctly aligned. So I needed to remove some of the paper plans that I glued to them to get wood to wood contact. My thought is to place a small drop of CA to tack them in place and when the time comes I can use acetone to break down the glue or just cut them off, which will have to be done eventually anyway. I had used Elmer’s spray adhesive to stick the plans to the bulkheads and found acetone easily removed the paper and glue. Then I locked a piece of the keel material in a vice and checked to make sure the notch in each bulkhead would accept it. They all needed a slight sanding to widen the slot. After some thought I came up with an idea that would make it easy to properly align the bulkhead notch over the centerline as well to make sure the bulkheads were perfectly vertical fore to aft. I took a piece of scrap wood and cut a 1/8th grove down the center. This will allow the piece of wood to ride on the 1/8th strip of wood that I glued on the centerline to align the bulkhead supports. Kind of like a sled. On the top side I glued 2 pieces of wood to hold the square centered. Lastly I took a small piece of the wood that I will be using for the keel and cut a grove that would ride on the upright portion of the square. The thickness of the upright was just under 1/16th (the size of the groove I cut) so I wrapped one layer of painters tape around the upright to make the fit just snug enough. Now the wood piece can be slid down into the bulkhead notch. Now I can easily get the bulkheads aligned correctly. I’m now contemplating if I should fair the bulkheads before mounting them on the build board. Matthews, the creator of the plans, has dotted lines on the plans showing the amount of fairing needed. I'm not sure of the angle of the fairing so it might mean some trial and error. Of course I could mount the bulkheads first and then fair them as is usually done. Ill have to think about it. Probably won’t get any more done till next weekend as the coming week is going to be busy for me.
  19. Welcome aboard! What type of boats have you worked on at the shipyard? Your knowledge and experience may be of big help to us all.
  20. Welcome aboard. I really doubt there is any problem posting in 2 groups. I do a build log here and also on a Facebook group.
  21. Things are moving along. Picked up a melamine coated shelf (12"X36") and cut what I needed from the build plans. I used 4 rows of double stick tape to mount the build plan to the board. Not the best way to do this as the areas between the tape still lift a bit. It isn't much but spraying the board with an adhesive would have been better. But going forward with what I have. I decided to glue a 1/8 strip of wood to the centerline to assist in getting the bulkhead supports square to the keel. All the bulkheads are cut and all the bulkhead supports have been made so I began gluing the supports to the plan board. This is a large model, about 30 inches long, and with my small work space I decided to dry fit and align the supports one bulkhead at a time. When all looks right I mark the location of both the port and starboard supports but only glue in the port side. Then I can turn the board around and glue in the starboard supports without trying to reach over and do the side furthest away from me. About halfway done with the port side. The slotting in the supports allows me to "slide" the bulkhead back and forth across the beam and will allow me, in the next step, to properly align the bulkhead keel notch to the centerline on the plan.
  22. Welcome! Nice build!
  23. Welcome! Great choice!
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