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Lapwing 1816 Revenue Cutter
iMustBeCrazy replied to iMustBeCrazy's topic in CAD and 3D Modelling/Drafting Plans with Software
Lower deck done (I think). It was interesting trying to work out the original Lapwing layout from under the revisions for Speedy, luckily ZAZ6347 for the Basilisk seems based on the original Lapwing. Somehow the squeezed 10 passengers in on the trip to Australia and I have a copy of an advert for 'First Class passage' -
Lapwing 1816 Revenue Cutter
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Lapwing 1816 Revenue Cutter
iMustBeCrazy replied to iMustBeCrazy's topic in CAD and 3D Modelling/Drafting Plans with Software
Sail plan, just for something different. EDIT: Sailplan updated, now includes spar dimensions an a scale. Please let me know of any spelling or terminology issues. Lapwing Sailplan 1in48.mc.pdf -
Lapwing 1816 Revenue Cutter
iMustBeCrazy replied to iMustBeCrazy's topic in CAD and 3D Modelling/Drafting Plans with Software
A bit more progress. Deck almost done, just winches to do I think. I realise now that I should have drawn all those station lines and guide lines on different layers so I could turn them off, live and learn. -
Lapwing 1816 Revenue Cutter
iMustBeCrazy replied to iMustBeCrazy's topic in CAD and 3D Modelling/Drafting Plans with Software
To try to ease my headache I put together a list of plans relation to the Lapwing etc. I don't think it worked. Lapwing related plans.pdf -
Lapwing 1816 Revenue Cutter
iMustBeCrazy replied to iMustBeCrazy's topic in CAD and 3D Modelling/Drafting Plans with Software
Well, not an impossible fit. Agrees with some of the guesses I have made. But three different drawings have three different arrangements of the deadwood/keelson. And where did that trim on the transom come from? -
Lapwing 1816 Revenue Cutter
iMustBeCrazy replied to iMustBeCrazy's topic in CAD and 3D Modelling/Drafting Plans with Software
Excellent! Brilliant! There's a 43 in the top left corner, probably when copies were made by or for the Danes. Was there a treaty at that time I wonder? On ZAZ6507 you can just make it out as indicated, it's a bit clearer on ZAZ6377 which shows both a hatch and a deckhouse. I'm guessing he based his model on the drawings Bruce has provided. -
Lapwing 1816 Revenue Cutter
iMustBeCrazy replied to iMustBeCrazy's topic in CAD and 3D Modelling/Drafting Plans with Software
That was what I was referring to. The midship frame drawing seems to be taken from ZAZ6429 (1818) inking in the pencilled alterations. The deck plan has already given me some more clues, thanks again. -
Lapwing 1816 Revenue Cutter
iMustBeCrazy replied to iMustBeCrazy's topic in CAD and 3D Modelling/Drafting Plans with Software
Thanks Bruce, not as such. The midship section appears later than Lapwing, ZAZ6428 is dated 1817 and shows the bloody great deck beam knee I posted above. The one you've posted seems to be 1818 or later. The deck plan/s are better quality than I have but still seem to be 1817 or later (or perhaps 'as built'). Still great to have, they will make things a little easier. EDIT: May have been a refit as she was still in service in 1843. -
Lapwing 1816 Revenue Cutter
iMustBeCrazy replied to iMustBeCrazy's topic in CAD and 3D Modelling/Drafting Plans with Software
Lines from two different drawings (note the blue and black lines on the left): Digital lofting (note, 4 is a typo for station 6 but I'll call it 4 for now): so line 4 is too far to the left, it should run through the two circles. This is indicated by the kink in the pink line. The difference is not much more than the thickness of a pencil line on the original 1/48 plans. What I'm working from: -
Lapwing 1816 Revenue Cutter
iMustBeCrazy replied to iMustBeCrazy's topic in CAD and 3D Modelling/Drafting Plans with Software
Many of the photos do, must be the lighting. The Lapwing ran aground at least twice, the outcome the last time wasn't so good. The Lapwing was on a Government mooring in Port Elliot South Australia , during a blow the harbour master had a Brig tied on astern of the Lapwing. The mooring failed and both ran aground. The Brig was saved. Interestingly, it seems that the Nightingale was launched as a schooner. -
Lapwing 1816 Revenue Cutter
iMustBeCrazy replied to iMustBeCrazy's topic in CAD and 3D Modelling/Drafting Plans with Software
What little original information I have found does not indicate that any were clinker planked. ZAZ6429 Has some alterations noted, dated 1818, with carvel planking pencilled in suggesting that Speedy launched in 1828 was very likely carvel planked. But that's not proof. EDIT: Just checked his book and he says: "She is carvel built, and carries eight 6 pounder guns. Some readers may be aware that some of these cutters were clench built, although I have no evidence to show which method was used for 'Speedy', ---------" And as you mention class, most references give it as Nightingale class, however depending on how you classify them I suggest that the above vessels form three classes as I grouped them above: Lapwing (First of class) Nightingale (some alteration to frames, but I'm not sure what) Vigilant (First of an enlarged version of the Lapwing, about 6 feet longer, allowing for an extra pair of guns) -
Lapwing 1816 Revenue Cutter
iMustBeCrazy replied to iMustBeCrazy's topic in CAD and 3D Modelling/Drafting Plans with Software
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Lapwing 1816 Revenue Cutter
iMustBeCrazy replied to iMustBeCrazy's topic in CAD and 3D Modelling/Drafting Plans with Software
Moved from another thread: Oh, where to start without hijacking the thread too much. I think 1823, Vigilant was the lead ship in 1821 (I think). Yes, I have the plans and book but I think it's not quite right. Try ZAZ6430 (Lapwing see ZAZ6425-6431) And for Diligence note the companionway 'deckhouse' on ZAZ6347. Anyway, it's still all new to me as I only started as a family history exercise (my great great grandfather was part of the crew when Lapwing sailed to Australia in 1850). I may build a 1/24 PoF, unrigged but showing accommodation, or I may not. Might start with some bits and pieces in MDF first. This is where I'm up to: -
G'Day all, I have drawn up some scale rulers in CAD. English feet and inches in 1:16, 1:24 and 1:48. EDIT: added 1:32 When printing you may have to adjust your printers scaling until 12 feet on the 1:16 ruler is 9 inches. After printing I cover both sides with Scotch 'Magic' tape before cutting them out. I hope somebody finds them useful. Scale Rulers.pdf
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Home made thicknessing sander if
iMustBeCrazy replied to Cabbie's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
Minor update: As is usual for this sort of project, it reaches a point where to test it you need to use it for the job you built it for and if it works you don't need it and progress stalls. So it was with this project. However, as I can see a need in the near future I have done a little more work including safety guards and some steps towards dust extraction. No chance of the belt hitting me in the face now. On another note, I picked up this at a market for A$20 (US$14) new in box but I'm not sure I got a bargain. It is the worst kind of Chinese product, the drill press used to drill the pulleys and sanding disk wasn't set square so they wobble, the bearings for the axle driving the belt and disk are fixed to sheet metal not the nice solid casting - if you raise the belt to vertical you tilt the disk, if you want to swap belts to a different grit you need to undo 10 screws (holding the dust cover/guard) and loosen 3 bolts. I'm sure it will be useful....... eventually. -
I will certainly be following this. My interest is that an Ancestor sailed on the Lapwing on her journey to Australia and Skylark was built to the enlarged lines of the Lapwing. Related vessels: Lapwing (1816) Kite Fancy (1817) Racer Sprightly Nightingale (1825) Speedy (1828) Snipe (1828) Vigilant (1821) Swift (1821) Basilisk (1822) Bramble (1822) Skylark Diligence
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Home made thicknessing sander if
iMustBeCrazy replied to Cabbie's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
Nothing new under the sun is there The only issue I can think of with a sled is that the stock tends to bow slightly as the side being sanded get hot. May not be a problem but.... -
Home made thicknessing sander if
iMustBeCrazy replied to Cabbie's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
G'day Bob, I glued some sandpaper to a board and fed it through before putting sandpaper on the drum. Interesting thought, I dismembered a laminator the other day to see if I could use the heating elements for something and I thought one of the feed rollers could be used to draw the stock out. The tilting platen makes this hard. Interesting. Physically less compact but the double taper (wedge) height adjustment would make fitting an out-take roller easier. A threaded rod parallel to the taper could be used for finer height adjustment.
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