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Ab First point sorry to read a thread from such a person as your self who obviously has not read the full post I have never claimed for it to be historically correct from day 1 however I do claim it to be a kit, secondly the plan you just posted is not the same as the model I have and thirdly cannons? On a yacht? I think when people reply to a post they should be constructive not derogatory as for value I'm not interested. I'll just burn it after all it' not worth anything. Henry x

Well I have done a little more cleaning and it's coming on fire buckets have been removed the only other thing I am going to remove from the deck is( don't no what they are called) is a guide each side where Lee board rope passes under then it's down to proper cleaning just like Master and Commander will need to get down on my hands and knee's. Interesting what Charles says about glues I think my dad used it more on furniture. One problem that has arisen is there are splits opening up in the bottom of the hull I think due dryness of my room but I'm sure I all be able to cope when the time comes other than that it's onwards and up. Henry x

Well just an up date i used boiling water and it came off (windlass). Getting back to what Roger said about glue my father who introduced me to hobbies had a glue pot which he put on a gas ring and heated the glue until it melted it was brown and had a distinct smell i don't know what it was made of i was still a young boy to busy trying to work out how to use my new found fret saw. When you see the young boy in the old hobbies ad sitting there holding his fret saw and wearing short trousers it could have been me (yes that's what we wore then ) i'm going back to the mid 40's. How things have changed. Keith You can rest assured this is a KIT just by luck Jan manage to find it have posted one photo have others but i can't find them. In life there are people who cannot see the woods for the trees no matter what you or i say to them i cannot understand them maybe it's done for their own reason. Getting back to the model it's coming on still a lot of cleaning to do pity some parts are painted now i would have preferred to see the natural wood back then we painted things sat back and said that looks great. Henry x

Roger Thanks for that info I did manage to remove the gun carriages and the rings they were attached to, tomorrow I think I will try to remove the windlass if that's what you call it. Will try using water I did use the end of my 6"rule to scrape the deck and to some extent it worked tried lifting the loose stuff with a vacuum but that was not really successful so I lifted it with sellotape and that worked but really still a long way to go and so far I am enjoying it. Henry x

Gregory That's me into the wife's whisky again. Jan Do you know,you are 100% correct have just been on a Russian site which confirms the parts I have removed and was going to post pics of them even the brass lion at the front which I first thought was a dog. Plans I believe are still avail 5 euros how it has a plaque with prince of orange on the stern well that's another question I knew I saw it somewhere before there is no question you are correct. So it should be moved to the proper section but I did not join to argue with people as for being historical accurate people should have known if they had looked the links Graham provided from day 1 that it differed. One small thing I have learned since joining if you want learn about Dutch ships you can do no better than trust a local Jan really many thanks. Henry x

Well just a few more picts first thing i will try to do is make a stand for it and you can see i needs a thorough deep clean have also removed some items. I would like to remove the gun carriages one is a bit loose but the others quite firm can i ask is there any solution that might loosen the glue also there seems to be something missing that holds the bowsprit which i don't know what it looks like and there maybe other things that i don't see but you guys will. Any solutions for deep cleaning without damage i think it will take me at least a week the dust seems to be engrained with the paint maybe due it's previous storage conditions the cabin roof seems to be made of card with wood strip along the edge and middle.

Mark Many thanks for doing that Henry x

Gregory I have removed the roof of the cabin but alas there is nothing there. There does seem to be something rattling inside the hull maybe a gold coin if so I'll just keep it there Mark can I ask you to move the whole post over to the correct section and you can add restoration to the title that way people will see the before and after many thanks Henry x

Wefalk Not quite sure I understand your last comment or the manner of its intention. The good news is the model arrived about 1hour ago will certainly need a good clean and happy to report there is an animal at the bow which looks like a dog with a curly tail which thought was missing I think what might be missing is a small flag pole hoping someone can tell me regarding the fire buckets there are steps each side which lead to the helm (which would operate the tiller and moves freely ) one side of the cabin roof is loose thinking it might be worth removing it to see if the tiller is in there also the rudder and bowsprit are missing the ratlings are in good condition main mast not too bad. Once clean I will take more Picts. The first thing I will have to make is a display stand anyone have any ideas it's missing Henry x

Wefalk What I would like to do is to restore as it once was being historically correct is really not important to me to do something otherwise I think would be a mistake Henry x

Allan, Wefalk many thanks Sorry i don't know how to make links but please look up Historicships.com/product/yacht-d-oro and tell me what you think, from what i understand it's made by corel not quite the same but very very similar. Not top of the range as they put it but none the less a kit.

Then tell me where the fittings came from and who made them Henry x

Wefalk firstly let me say thank you for showing interest you seem to be the only one so far. What you say I have no doubt you are correct like I said earlier my knowledge of such ships is very limited. Although I see them in the photograph it did not register until you mentioned the words fire-buckets and that rang a bell do you know I have seen this model before may not have been this exact one but the same model I remember the fire-buckets they were all in a line don't ask me where or when maybe when I was building the yacht Mary wish I could remember. Now let's hope we can agree that you don't have to work for NASA to accept this model is built from a kit the quality of the fittings should tell people that (if I am correct) which now raises the question who was the manufacturer and made when. The ad did say vintage 17" long but I don't think that includes bowsprit if that's what's it's called (I know that's what it is called on a galleon) will know better when the model arrives and no doubt there will be other things incorrect or missing just like the rudder. I did see a model from Corel 22" I think a state yacht can't remember the name should have book marked it. I do think this model was produced in the days before we had computers or the internet hence the faults but only my thoughts, size might help to date it. I'm quite sure someone in this forum will know but the problem with forums is the ones who really know stay silent. Henry x

Last 4 I think underneath the dirt and grime and tangled rigging there is is a nice model waiting to be excavated and with your help it can be brought back to it's former glory. Cost of this operation well it cost me exactly 1 penny less than a bottle of the wife's whisky. Hope you enjoyed the photo's Henry x

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Well "The time has come the Walrus said" But just before i should let you know all my life i have been involved in aviation both real and aeromodelling and have built a few ships in my time both real and models so i'm not new to modelling. When it comes to a model such as this my knowledge is next to zero in fact there are things on this model i don't even know the name of. There are 12 photos i will post but they will be stuck together i have read on the forum how to post with a space in between but for me that's too much hassle i'm afraid that i am in the wrong end of life's spectrum and by the time i figure it out i might not be here. Will post 3 threads with 4 photo's which might be more pleasant to look at than 12 stuck together so it's over to you experts and others sit back and enjoy

Graham Many thanks for the links they work perfectly. Small problem the stern of the model has a brass plaque on it with the name prince of orange and differs from the paintings so I don't know where I am . Will post Picts of the model tomorrow when I find the restoration section. Once again many thanks. Henry x

Have actually bought one for spare or repair and the quality is outstanding and judging by what I see I think it must have been a kit the ad said vintage and it's quite a large one maybe rare. Won't come till next week but will certainly need help with the rigging. Another question is which section will I post it in. Charter33 would be helpful if you could post a link I'm not very good with computers. Henry x

Can anyone give me any info of a Dutch yacht called Prince of Orange have a feeling it might have been a state yacht Henry x

Can I ask what is the hull made of, solid wood and the bone planks just nailed on always wondered. Henry x

Jaager Many thanks for that info, left side not too bad right side rubbish still early days Henry x

Rich how much saw dust to PVA to water I assume water is used to thin it out or is it not required Henry x

Has anyone successfully used home made wood filler as mentioned by allanyed #3 I.e sawdust from the wood you are using PVA and water. I am using oak planks but I'm only half way there but nice to know in advance if the worst comes to the worst I intend to use oak wood strip already glued that you just iron on for second planking if needed Henry x

Learned a lot excellent post many thanks Henry x

Really superb Henry x